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jzyoung
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Posted - Jul 4 2021 : 9:33AM
Weird fetish but I love to see contrast like this where an ugly, nasty man fucks a hot woman

I think this genre is called Kimomen in JAV.......Why don't we have such a thing in western porn?

pat362
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Posted - Jul 4 2021 : 10:13AM
^I'm going to go on a wild guess and say that it's because most porn fans don't want to watch a naked nasty ugly man do anything and definitely not fuck a hot woman. Of course the questions begs asking. What is your idea of a nasty ugly man?
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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PowerfromHell
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kesont
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Posted - Jul 15 2021 : 3:20AM
Jeni Angel did her Bang Bus scene with this geezer Jack Moore, and she ate up all his cum eagerly, I think that's what you want right haha

Edited by - kesont on 7/15/2021 3:21:17 AM

 
1976
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Posted - Jul 15 2021 : 10:42AM
Oldje.com

Beautyandthesenior.com

Youngandold.com

1976
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Posted - Jul 15 2021 : 10:47AM
Also oldgoesyoung.com

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FunScotty
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Posted - Jul 15 2021 : 9:50PM
I think Ed Powers pretty much cornered the market on this particular porn niche.
siyd
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 4:24AM
Some stuff that comes to mind:

- Jurassic Cock
- T. von Swine
- Naughty Midwest Girls
- Blue Pill Men
- Heavy on Hotties

This is one of my favorite JAV fetishes as well and I wish it was more present in the west as well, but it's pretty obvious why it's not a big sell

I think you'd also enjoy Mario Salieri's stuff, like Band of Bastards

Your best bet for stuff like this is searching male performer's names. I think you'll enjoy the works of Ron Jeremy, Dick Nasty, and Juan Cuba to name a few

pat362
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 7:41AM
While I appreciate what everyone is tryind to do. I doubt old men fucking young women falls under the description the OP talked about. The minion definitely does because he meets all of the OP's requirements but that's about it other than later day Ron Jeremy who did porn when he maybe he shouldn't have.
leatherface
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 9:09AM
I don't think it's like that, because I think a lot of man are or feel ugly and not attractive and so they can see someone like them having a possibility to have sex with a super hot woman. "That could be me" is the point. Also, besides the clear discrimination behind the idea that a ugly person should not being allowed to have sex with an attractive one (imagine saying that a black man should have sex with a white woman, does that sounds better?), it clearly exists in the industry, even if it does not have a specific name. There are a lot of sites and scenes that revolve around this kink...and yes, clearly old men, often bald/overweight and not exactly super attractive are part of that.


Edited by - leatherface on 7/16/2021 9:16:23 AM

Videofan
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 9:23AM
Torbes Padre Damian videos on putalocura.com does the ugly old man thing with a humouros take:
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https://www.putalocura.com/padre-damian

And even his other videos on Putalocura featuring himself and some young cutie might fall in the category the OP is searching for, depending on if you think he is ugly or old enough...

T0MBOne
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 10:29AM
In classic films, Jake Teague usually played the dirty old man but his stuff can be fetish driven like his bit spanking a cheerleader in Debbie Does Dallas.

Bambi Woods and R Bolla really deliver a terrific old guy/young woman scene for the finale of Debbie Does Dallas but it really depends on how the viewer sees R. Bolla in the "dirty old man" department.

I reviewed a DVD called I Suck (2011, Anabolic) and one of the best blow jobs was the opener between Renae Cruz and Dick Nasty.

Credit director Tony M

For getting Dick involved in some of the banter before and after the Renae's terrific BJ and

For playing up the beautiful girl/creepy guy angle.

T0MBOne

hoochimama
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 11:39AM
I love beauty contrast play (in fact I love most forms of contrast play: older man/younger woman, older woman/younger man, tall woman/short man, glamorous woman/unglamorous man etc) but it's still barely a thing in western porn. AFAIK the only one who tried to make a real go at it in western porn the way the japanese try with the kimomen & co stuff was theminion (also a fellow ADT forum poster).
That website made a few big mistakes: both the food stuff and the more focus placed on the guy and his expressions than on the girls (particularly in the marketing pics where it's mostly about the guy) felt like the wrong direction and overcompensation for the fact that the girls didn't seem to understand they were supposed to act disgusted and instead mostly acted like in any other vanilla scene. Also for this contrast to work you really need the prettiest, most glamorous-looking pornstars with a production quality that makes them look like a million bucks, not run of the mill ones, otherwise it ends up as just two average-looking people screwing around.

Older male/younger female age contrast play scenes also play into the beauty contrast niche somewhat, however unlike in JAV/kimomen you never see the girls in western ageplay scenes act as though they're disgusted by it. Most I've seen was an expression of sheer bewilderment on a grandparentsx scene (Perverted Oldies Orgy Part 1) where two elderly gents are getting their balls slapped and kicked by 3 GILFs and are then joined by 4 teen spectators, one of whom was also cast to later get fucked in that scene. The look on her face as she holds tight a giant teddy bear for comfort realizing what she's gotten herself into:
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"WTF did I sign up for?"

Other places where you can find this kind of contrast play:
- putalocura had a couple of series dedicated to it.
- amateurlapdancer has plenty of scenes where the guy playing the lapdance customer is 3 times the girl's age (and trying to get her to go further than expected).

You may also want to be careful with the words used to describe these male performers. I had intended to create a thread like this a while back as a spinoff from this thread but apparently describing the individual elderly/large etc gents who perform this kind of fetish porn as being aged/adipous etc goes against the fragile ADT etiquette, even if it is meant to be to these performer's benefit/meant as an appreciation rather than an offense. Personally I'd think performers would rather be discussed and appreciated/given work rather than be ignored/starve. I can't imagine refusing to discuss BBWs on the offchance that a curvier pornstar gets offended if someone refers to her as a BBW.

Edited by - hoochimama on 7/16/2021 11:49:08 AM

2manyDVDs
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 12:43PM
I'm glad someone else mentioned The Hedge Hog. I wanted to, but felt guilty since he's a legend.

A lot of guys in "fan fuck" films might fit the bill here.

 
siyd
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 2:43PM
^ solid reply, hoochimama. I agree that in kimomen stuff the actresses are rarely disgusted.

And I would agree about the nature of comments towards performers, I don't think it's necessarily right to call them ugly or nasty. I think the aim for this fetish is to display such contrasts between the actors, because most porn actresses look like our fantasies. For me the gap between them is an extra layer of degradation.

austfan
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 6:58PM
faketaxi John.
He got almost all fucking sexy girls in UK and Europe.
ironKnight
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Posted - Jul 16 2021 : 10:13PM
^+1 and Heavyonhotties .
PowerfromHell
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Posted - Jul 30 2021 : 9:20PM
All ways kinda dug him and enjoyed his style a bit of a middle class HardCunt...

Any chance of learning more about the character as well as the man behind it? PM if such intel needn't be outed...

Good day & TIA

austfan
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 12:13AM
His identity is public. He is British pornstar Ian Tate
jzyoung
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 2:15AM
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That's why i love JAV, cuz the contrast is clearly visible.

This man nailing that beautiful dime, eating her mouth, creampie her

All of such things are absent in western porn (or is very rare)

hoochimama
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 5:18AM
^He's know as "Big Boowy" on the blog/forum sphere where he has a big following, seen there with Yui Hatano on GVG-262. He is at least listed as Unknown Male 713883-A on iafd, though half his work seems to be missing.

I don't believe there is any official/legit japanese AV site that lists male performer filmographies, I believe this is the largest list of his performances so far (25 movies, I'll try to update with proper links as I find them):

(DVD code ; co-star ; release year ; studio ; notes)

ABP-515 "Princess of Otasa. 02" ; Airi Suzumura ; 2016 ; Prestige (https://www.prestige-av.com/) ;
ABP-572 "Princess of Otasa. 05" ; Mion Sonoda ; 2017 ; Prestige (https://www.prestige-av.com/) ;
ABP-578 "Princess of Otasa. 06+" ; Ayami Shunka ; 2017 ; Prestige (https://www.prestige-av.com/) ;
BLK-217 ; Emiri Okazaki ; 2015 ; kira*kira (https://www.kirakira-av.com/) ;
DASD-341 ; Sora Shiina ; 2015 ; DAS (https://www.dasdas.jp/) ;
ECB-099 ; Aika ; 2015 ; WAAP (http://www.waap.co.jp/) ;
GAR-347 "5 Super Flashy Gals Hunting Boys In The Street! Handjob And French Kiss In The Open!!" ; unknown ; 2013 ; SOSORU x GARCON (formerly GARCON) ;
GVG-212 ; Erika (aka Moka) ; 2015 ; Glory Quest (gloryquest.tv) ;
GVG-262 ; Yui Hatano ; 2016 ; Glory Quest (gloryquest.tv)
GVG-294 ; Rion Ichijo ; 2016 ; Glory Quest (gloryquest.tv) ;
GVG-361 ; Rin Kuramochi ; 2016 ; Glory Quest (gloryquest.tv) ;
KV-151 ; Ruka Kanae ; 2014 ; Knights Visual (https://www.knights-visual.com/) ;
KV-170 "Non-stop shooting for 117 minutes, uncut editing, 29 consecutive vaginal cum shots, 12 long-time cleaning blowjobs and bukkake! !! Ayane Harukana" ; Haruna Ayane ; 2015 ; Knights Visual (https://www.knights-visual.com/) ;
KV-179 ; Asahi Mizuno ; 2016 ; Knights Visual (https://www.knights-visual.com/) ;
KV-182 "128 minutes non-stop shooting, uncut editing, 32 consecutive vaginal cum shot, long cleaning blowjob and 17 consecutive bukkake Mari Rika" ; Rika Mari ; 2016 ; Knights Visual (https://www.knights-visual.com/) ;
KV-188 "Non-stop shooting for 111 minutes, uncut editing, 31 vaginal cum shots, 21 long-time cleaning blowjobs and bukkake! !! Misuzu Kawana" ; Kawana Misuzu ; 2017 ; Knights Visual (https://www.knights-visual.com/) ;
KV-189 ; Yuu Shinoda ; 2017 ; Knights Visual (https://www.knights-visual.com/) ;
KV-191 "Non-stop shooting for 110 minutes, uncut editing, 26 vaginal cum shots, 20 long-time cleaning blowjobs and 20 bukkake shots! !! Mizutani Shinon" ; Kokone Mizutani ; 2017 ; Knights Visual (https://www.knights-visual.com/) ;
MDS-843 " Reporter Azuki has set foot in the slimy village !!"; Azuki ; 2016 ; KMP K.M.Produce (https://www.km-produce.com/) ;
MIDE-462 ; Shoko Akiyama ; 2017 ; Moodyz (https://www.moodyz.com/) ;
MXGS-804 ; Yume Kana ; 2015 ; Maxing (https://www.maxing.jp/) ;
RSD-021 ; Arisa Takimoto ; 2014 ; Dream Ticket (now part of WAAP) ;
SDMU-302 (couldn't find a legit site selling it); Ai Uehara ; 2016 ; Soft On Demand (https://www.sod.co.jp/) ;
STAR-631 "Iori Kogawa Kiss-Addicted Hot Sex" ; Iori Kogawa ; 2015 ; Soft On Demand (https://www.sod.co.jp/) ;
WDI-054 ; Yui Hatano ; 2015 ; WAAP (http://www.waap.co.jp/) ;


Maybe we could try to get him and the other underappreciated JAV performers like him properly listed on IAFD?

Edited by - hoochimama on 7/31/2021 10:10:41 AM

jzyoung
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 8:33AM
lol he banged so many chics .....damn what a lucky sob
hoochimama
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 8:43AM
^And not just any run-of-the-mill JAV chicks but only the finest, most glamorous-looking & popular ones. They get the point of contrast play.

The fact that he doesn't seem to have performed since 2017 is worrying.

T0MBOne
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 5:18PM
2manyDVDs comment reminded me that I had reviewed one of those Fuck A Fan flicks:

Fuck A Fan Global Edition 2-London (2013, Immoral Productions)

This pink bulbous bloke named

Professor Hot Tubs

steals that show.

tb

 
roookie2224
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 5:42PM
Surprised no one mentioned Dirty Harry.
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1976
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 6:37PM
^ Dirty Harry reminds me on T-Bag from the Prison Break series.
yourmomma
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 6:44PM
why do we need a genre for it? That is most "regular" porn.
2bollocks
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Posted - Jul 31 2021 : 8:35PM
Valid fetish. It's actually gross to watch yet still hot. Hard to explain why.
Porno Dan
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Posted - Aug 1 2021 : 8:45PM
Professor Tubs is a very happy fat fellow!
Pitslover123
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Posted - Aug 6 2021 : 4:19AM
I too love watching older man young girl movies ❤️

I there any scene where older man seducing teens... romantic seducing sweaty sex ...🙏

Please guys let me know if you have any scenes like that 🙏

hoochimama
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Posted - Sep 7 2021 : 1:41PM
Found a new big guy that might be of interest for BBM/fine woman contrast scenes: actor/director Kyle Balls aka the luckiest dude on earth.
examples:
https://www.manyvids.com/Video/1988978/fucking-sinn-sage-amp-coco-vandi/
https://www.manyvids.com/Video/684267/BTS-With-Kyle-Balls-From-WCA-Productions/

Married to Coco Vandi with whom he runs WCA Productions (on onlyfans, manyvids & clips4sale) he also gets to fuck many of the other hot chicks from the USA homegrown clip circuit who shoot for his studio (c4s/mv etc women that you often don't get to see on vanilla mainstream sites like brazzers).

His Life of Balls youtube show where you get to see previews of his hot tub orgies with tons of babes would make even Saint Hef jealous.
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Edited by - hoochimama on 9/7/2021 1:47:45 PM

Jaceler
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Posted - Sep 7 2021 : 4:55PM
Whats the biggest or most notable name/hottest girl he's had on? Sheena Ryder? It's hard to tell based on each video's title
hoochimama
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Posted - Sep 19 2021 : 7:14PM
^If you're asking for the "glammiest" pornstar he's shot with for the biggest visual contrast I wouldn't know, I've barely scratched the surface of the WCA stores though I did recognize mainstream pornstars like Cory Chase, Helena Price, Mellanie Monroe, Makayla Cox, Joslyn Jane etc

Anyway I've finally found a legit website that lists japanese male pornstars' filmographies, including most of the kimomen: https://avdanyuwiki.com/

tastethetang
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Posted - Dec 13 2021 : 3:09PM
Considering this is pretty much the foundation of porn, a conversation about it just seams silly.
 
2bollocks
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Posted - Dec 13 2021 : 3:21PM
^No it's not, it's very rare to find this particularly in western porn.

Right now there's a few beauties who have been doing scenes with current Evan Stone. Steve Holmes sometimes plays the part but for him it's mostly his age and not really his look. Claudio from pervcity sometimes shoots scenes I guess. Other than them, I can't think of others.

jabos
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Posted - Dec 13 2021 : 9:58PM
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm like the OP, one of the other genres I like to see besides IR.
Suzyxxx
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Posted - Dec 28 2021 : 3:19AM
Its very common in jav movies
Minion
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gjh3102
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Posted - Jul 19 2025 : 12:11PM
There's actually a porn niche with woman and handicapped guys. Google"BoyWonder" for more recent example but there are few videos from the 90s mostly from Brazil, IIRC, that have some female porn stars you'd recognize.

Plus several episodes of the Midnight Prowl series had scenes with ugly guys in one form or another.

Edited by - gjh3102 on 7/19/2025 12:13:55 PM




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