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Derp22
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Posted - Jan 9 2015 : 8:07AM
Nope. I just dont care about porn drama. I have bigger things to worry about.
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 9 2015 : 9:33AM
^^^^
hahha physical abuse is drama for u - womans body covered with bruises , getting beaten by a 6ft3 man is drama for you . Drama - maybe they are acting what u think lmfao hit me hit me .
Clover works with women daily and he beats his girlfriend with such violence . He cannot be in porn . sorry !!
But we all know theres are some naive , dumb and crazy people , directors in this industry !!

Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/9/2015 9:34:44 AM

kobbie2Hottie
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Jessy jones aka mister douchebag going bersek at his ex destiny dixon accusing her of escorting !! Big mouth !!
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kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 13 2015 : 9:25AM
looks like clover is back to business . fucking again . so many good scenes will be ruined . I will just skip them .
His directors friends will book him again . Bootlicker - clover , clever the guy . He hangs out with all the directors , fools them then get scenes .
Just dave , keiran lee , david lord , bad boy craven , darkko , kevin moore , barett blade etc all these directors are in love with limp dick clover .
Clover is the worst stud .
 
Lezlover
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Posted - Jan 13 2015 : 3:26PM
If that's true, then it doesn't say much for the girls that agree to work with him. If they had any ounce of respect for a fellow woman they would tell him to sling his hook. But then I guess money is worth more than self respect. Shame on them.
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 13 2015 : 4:03PM
^^^
High profile , popular , overrated girls can refuse to work with clover . But unfortunately not all the girls have the pleasure to do so . They got no choice a scene cancelled would mean a loss of earnings of 1000$ !! Im thinking of newbies .
Not all the girls want to strip / custom scenes / web cam to earn extra money . Some want to be full time perf .
Clover hangs out with many directors . Some directors at brazzers seem that they have been bewitched by him . Cant they see he cant fuck ??
Clover is pretty sure to get scenes with peter north directors - david lord or bad boy craven . Hes good friends with them . lol


Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/13/2015 4:04:28 PM

kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 24 2015 : 5:38PM
Clover has done it again and his last victim was his current girlfriend who is also a pornstar - morgan lee . His porn career is over . Theres no way out this time . Because there have been a lot porn people who have witnessed clover violent behaviour . It happened at the Avn convention / expo 2015 and many people were present to witness this time .
I was right from the very beginning , im not a hater nor a troll who likes to see people suffer . Im here to inform you , create awareness , we the porn fans . We need to show more support to these women , like i say many naive , dumb people in this industry . A lot of crazy people . I was completely right .
Morgan lee is a cute little asian girl of korean heritage . Shes 5ft 1 or 2 . She was with a guy like clover whos twice her size . Imagine the scene when clover with all his rage beats her in the face . Choked her .
Some posters here were obviously taking clovers defence , were taking his side . Some were saying its porn drama . 2 sides of story , clover pretty guy , people exaggerate .
I even got attacked for my grammar and punctuation . Clover is a great performer . It doesnt matter now you know . The truth has come out . clover is a woman beater . Period .
Lastly i want to point out that jessy jones was showing full support to clover . Hes a douchebag who supports woman beater who was too scared of clover to say the truth .
Jessy jones was present in court for the first case of jenn marie . If hes a real man he should be present in court to testify against clover for morgan lee this time . Otherwise hes punk a ass bitch !! A douchebag .
U can read the tweets , full story -
https://twitter.com/morganleexxx
http://therealpornwikileaks.com/clover-arrested-domestic-violence-cocaine-possession/
http://therealpornwikileaks.com/atmla-statement-clover/
Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/24/2015 5:40:48 PM
Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/24/2015 5:43:08 PM
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 24 2015 : 7:23PM
Terrible.
Derp22
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JB_X
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Posted - Jan 24 2015 : 8:20PM
^ Seriously? He just got out of jail for terrorizing his last girlfriend. Read the accounts of that and see if you think he still deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Jackie Treehorn
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Posted - Jan 24 2015 : 8:33PM
The reports are that it's on hotel surveillance video. Plus he is now locked up in jail and has been dropped by his agency. Do you really need to see pictures of some beaten girl, just so you can shrug it off and let us know how much you don't care for the 4th time.
Derp22
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Posted - Jan 24 2015 : 10:14PM
^Yes. This is America, where you are innocent until proven guilty. Until I see definite proof that she was beaten (be it pictures or the release of the security cam footage) then I am going presume he is innocent.
Hottest girl in porn = Miss Palestine
realtip
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Posted - Jan 24 2015 : 11:44PM
I have met Clover in person. He seems to be a really nice guy. I have no idea about what goes on in his personal relationships, and will not judge him based on rumors or accusations. It is true that he is incarcerated now on the allegation that he hit his girlfriend in public, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's guilty. There has been no trial yet. But unfortunately in this society, people will automatically condemn him as guilty even without proof. I would like to see him get past this and continue to work.
realtip
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Posted - Jan 24 2015 : 11:59PM
^I don't know whether or not to take that as a compliment.
 
carl72
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Posted - Jan 25 2015 : 5:43AM
Glad everyone is seemingly in one piece. Zero sympathy for the victim here. The history was out there.
She should thank her lucky stars she got out of this is without serious injury or worse. Glad she's ok, but zero sympathy.
Make smarter choices next time.
kobbie2Hottie
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EagleEyed
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Posted - Jan 25 2015 : 10:19AM
Typical victim blaming. One post not once condemns Clover's actions but continually goes on about how they have no sympathy for the victim (alleged victim, whatever).
Then there's Derp, who may be the worst. The same person who makes it known how disgusting they think a bush and anal is, basically doesn't care that someone is a domestic abuser. Innocent until proven guilty is in law. People can make their own judgements as they're just opinions, with no penalties handed out. Lol, you're going to presume he's innocent which clearly means you're going to presume that Morgan Lee is lying. Why? Oh because attention/cash. The go to for victim blamers everywhere.
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Posted - Jan 25 2015 : 10:52AM
Here are some excerpts from Jaen's statement to the court, the full text of which can be read at the OP's link:
I think if you can read that without feeling sympathy then you should seek out help from a mental health professional.
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Posted - Jan 25 2015 : 11:36AM
He was on probation AFAIK and she already "fell down the stairs" or "badly hit the door" more than once already, this time, apparently, he did it in public plus he was also charged for possession and this is no rumor, even though I personally wouldn't condemn anybody for f personal use
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 25 2015 : 11:44AM
Morgan lee has been warned by jenn marie and many people of clover so many times .
But she didnt listen and look what happened .
she can only blame herself .
Like i say there are many crazy and stupid people in this industry .
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 25 2015 : 3:33PM
Still dont believe ??
Morgan lee bruises -
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Float_my_boat All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 4:33AM
Mike South reported Clover has been dropped by his agency, ATMLA. Clover has had previous problems. South said something along the lines of actually "flunk(ing) out of porn."
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 7:21AM
Clover with his homie jessy jones lmfao . That was before shit happened . Happy times .
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After the last incident with morgan , jessy jones like a bitch , is now turning his back on his homie clover . Hes like clover who who ??
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Jessy jones thinks hes mob - Money over bitches . lol Thinks hes a G . Hes more like a punk ass bitch who is scared of the real shit !!
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Jessy jones was dumb enough to go to court to show clover support during the first case - jenn marie . He was the only male performer .
Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/26/2015 7:21:49 AM
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carl72
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 7:29AM
There's a difference between sympathy and empathy. A lot of you guys should look it up. You can empathize with her situation and offer whatever support you can, without it denigrating into pointless phony sympathy. The latter doesn't do anyone any good heading into the future.
Morgan Lee is accountable here too. She ignored the obvious and paraded around acting deeply in love with a dude who with an extremely violent past.
No one is happy about what happened or absolving this ass hat from blame. Clearly.
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 8:31AM
I see, non of you guys ever dated any girl with a "troubled"tag all you know warned you about?
I did, nobody in such situation will listen even when I knew she was trouble , it's a book you may buy or not , you can't really control emotions
pervybrit50
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 1:21PM
So who bailed him out, was it the other woman beater white gangsta? Hard to feel sorry for these women-she was warned by the other one he beat up not to get involved & her agents etc & ignored them all. Sure his agency has dumped him-but is it just the usual cosmetic reasons & quietly rehire him when the heat dies down? Even if they are genuine another agency will pick him up you can bank on it.
Basically until the women in porn show some balls & refuse to work with women bearing drug addicts nothing will change. If they don't respect themselves & their fellow performers & just hop on a dick to get paid guys like him will always have a job. The women hold the power in this industry-Clover, the wigger & some of the other may think they are the stars & the women are just 'bitches' but truth is nobody pays to see these dorks-they are just a random penis. Thereis an abundance of male talent with better looks, bodies & better performers who don't beat women up or abuse hard drugs.
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kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 2:01PM
morgan was that little dumb and naive girl who thinks in every tall guy lies a prince charming .
clover is an expert in fooling people lol . That guy imo has a P.h.d in tricking people .
I think this time clover is done . I have seen tweets from the director of peter north who this time has commented on this incident . Bayboy craven has given 23 scenes to clover at peter north . So clover was good friends with him . I dont know for barrett blade , david lord , eric masterson if they still support clover or not .
They didnt believe jenn marie , they were all dissing her . She has said that clover was a time tickling bomb but still some people refuse to hear the truth . They think all these women are some crazy hoes who like drama .
Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/26/2015 2:01:38 PM
pervybrit50
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 2:22PM
Pretty sure she said she knew he had drug issues-couldn't care less whether she did it with him or not to be honest.
Jackie Treehorn
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 2:26PM
^Yes. This is America, where you are innocent until proven guilty.
Until I see definite proof... I am going presume she is innocent.
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 5:28PM
That little woman , shes the one to blame for bringing so much chaos and drama in this industry . I assume they have fucked each other . lol . She has brought a maniac in this industry . Shes the one that must feel guilty - Liv Aguilera . For me porn people are the craziest people I have seen seriously . They dont live a normal but mostly a delusional life .
After all what have been said and done im sure there are still some dumb people who still support clover .
Most of these girls , they themselves like to get into trouble , they like to create drama . They wont listen to wise and experienced people , they think there are always haters on their backs . Some bitches in this biz think they are some like paris hilton or kim kardashian shit . U aint shit sorry to say this .
That morgan lee she has been warned a thousand times about that guy but still want to date him . Man when u see that kind of attitude . U are gutted .
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Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/26/2015 5:40:52 PM

pervybrit50
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 6:06PM
She probably got him a tryout & he impressed enough to get in-you cannot really hold her responsible. If nobody represented him or booked him for scenes when he beats up women then he wouldn't get any work.
carl72
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Posted - Jan 26 2015 : 9:11PM
Let's face it, women who make a living in porn have a totally different wiring under the hood. They are addicted to the rush and drama and can't live without it. We can debate causality factors for why they are like this, but Clover's past was very likely a selling point for the most recent girlfriend. That's who porn chicks are.
Morgan Lee and her colleagues would have zero interest in a normal guy whom she knew would treat her very well and wouldn't partake in emotionally charged drama.
So me telling her to make better choices was actually like telling a math whiz to sit down and write the next great American novel. It's not in her.
 
Magnif
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Posted - Jan 27 2015 : 7:44PM
Clover apologizes on twitter:
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https://twitter.com/Clover7xxx
This apology helps his cause, I guess but I still think he's done in the porn industry and headed back to jail or prison.
Jackie Treehorn
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Posted - Jan 27 2015 : 9:28PM
I'm sure he's sorry that he is now in trouble. I doubt he is sorry about much else.
JackSparrow
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Posted - Jan 28 2015 : 12:23AM
anyone who is real sorry tells that the person he hurts personally and not on twitter,facebook,instagram or any of that trendy internet stuff.
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 28 2015 : 6:58AM
Lol who is fooling who . Hes now aware that he is in danger of losing his dream job . But first clover needs to make a trip again to prison and I hope for a longer period this time .
No mercy for that kind of person . He has been given so many opportunities to prove those who were against him wrong . But he blew up everything . No mercy !!
Not only you suck as a performer but u beat your girl who turns out to be a pornstar . No excuse . Its all about respecting women in this business . Because its all about them .
Surprised to see lezley zen taking his side lol nah shes just another dumb and stupid woman .
Im sure that clover is a bit worried now about his career in this business. Atmla dropped him from the agency . I guess that he has texted some of the directors explaining to them trying to fool them again . This time i will fix it , looking for help , going for rehab lmfao .
But many are turning their backs on him . Some will still support him but not many this time .
I dont know if barett blade , david lord , ralph long , craven moorehead , eric masterson will still book him .
Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/28/2015 7:00:19 AM
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Posted - Jan 28 2015 : 7:58AM
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well at least those asking for actual evidence now have them, Clover himself pretty much confirmed everuthing
carl72
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Posted - Jan 28 2015 : 8:19AM
Yup.
He'll be back in the business and have another pornstar girlfriend when he's done serving time. No doubt in my mind.
Lezlover
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Posted - Jan 28 2015 : 3:58PM
^ Yup and he'll beat the fuck out of her too. And so the repetitive cycle of violence will continue because he is a serial offender. No matter how many times he goes to prison or rehab or how many times he says sorry, this man will not change. Men like clover get off on the pain and suffering of others. You can bet your bottom dollar he gets aroused whenever he beats on a women because it's the only way he can get a genuinely gratifying sexual release. I don't care how many women he's screwed on screen, that's just acting, violence is what gets this guy off and he won't stop until he kills someone. I hope the judge in charge for the next one he batters sees the empty, meaningless apologies and promises for what they are, a smokescreen, a foundation for his defence. 'Not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect'.
Edited by - lezlover on 1/28/2015 4:01:14 PM
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Jan 28 2015 : 4:51PM
Kobbie, just out of curiosity, what is your ax to grind with this guy as you seem to have a real bug up your ass about him? Did he bang your girlfriend, does he owe money, etc etc. what?
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 28 2015 : 5:44PM
So this means i fuck your girlfriend if u have one rosco lol because you are always picking on me . I feel like you are always attacking me for my posts . Why so much hostility towards me ?? Rosco ? You make fun of my grammar and punctuation when i was right about clover . Lol is it a fucking exam i need to take at the end of year .
Did I beat jenn marie and morgan lee , rosco ?? Some posters have clearly defended clover , why dont u pick on them ?? They are defending a woman beater and u got nothing to say . ??
Damn seriously rosco dont u want to know the truth . Dont u see clover doesnt have his place in this business when it clearly concerns the health and safety of women in this business .
Rosco u are attacking me because I am naming and shaming a woman beater - clover ? whats wrong with you rosco ? U made me feel guilty rosco like i should never denounce a woman beater .
Seriously guys . Rosco what have u learnt from the cristy mack assault ? nothing i see .
Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/28/2015 5:46:17 PM
Derp22
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Posted - Jan 28 2015 : 9:10PM
For some reason most internet porn fans like to be white knights. No clue why.
Rosco Fuji
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Posted - Jan 29 2015 : 12:03AM
Jeez dude, lighten up will you. I wasn't attacking you on your lousy punctuation and grammar, I was just asking what is your issue with the guy as you seem to be constantly harping on the guy repeating the same drivel time and time again on every other post on this thread. As far as any so called truth is concerned, the truth is I've never heard of this guy before nor do I care anything about him. Whatever is going on with this guy is someone else's porn drama and not a concern to me.
So again, for the third time, I'll ask you, what is your issue with the guy that you're trying to educate the world on some no name guy who may or may not have smacked some porn girls around?
You know, one thing that history has definitely taught us is that whomever preaches the loudest on an issue is usually the biggest offender on the issue. So, that being said, do you have something to hide?
Edited by - rosco fuji on 1/29/2015 12:17:15 AM
kobbie2Hottie
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Posted - Jan 29 2015 : 1:53AM
^^^
Rosco,
Please dont try to turn this thing against me lol .
Dude , you have not posted one single post in relation to the topic . Not once . The first time u posted , u were saying my grammar and punctuation wasnt enough great not good yeah but great for you lol .
You are not concerned about this incident why come here then ?? So the christy smack assault was a fake one for you rosco ??
u dont know the guy lol bitch please the guy is a porn stud , youre not concerned about women getting bashed .
I saw one of your posts on christy mack where u said , i quote - Actually, she wasn't nearly beaten to death, not even close . That tells much about you . That was sicked .
Your a sad guy .
Issue with that guy lol me , u should ask why atmla , his agent drop him then . Many people have issues with him rosco go and ask them one by one . The police have an issue with him .
Edited by - kobbie2Hottie on 1/29/2015 1:59:27 AM
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Quorrl
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Posted - Jan 29 2015 : 2:05AM
There's a big number of people on the internet who like to be trolls... I would argue several porn fans are among those, too. Is there a clue why?
Humans behave strangely because they are humans, right?
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Posted - Jan 29 2015 : 2:09AM
Hmmm... you really believe that Kobbie2hottie beats women? Interesting...
I would think "history" and its teachings are not enough as evidence to support such an accusation.
Because basically, there is no human behaviour for which there doesn't exist an example in history; so "history taught us" can be used to support everything under the sun (and would not be false).
But it was probably sarcasm without a smiley ^___^
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Posted - Jan 29 2015 : 4:31AM
One of the things that I find strange about situations like this is how so many people in the porn industry always come out of the woodwork to act so morally superior and judgemental. It's funny how the same people who always complain that they shouldn't be judged negatively for their socially illicit choice of work are always the same ones to turn around and be so judgemental of others. Are these people are truly concerned about the poor victim as they claim, or do they just love having the chance to throw another fellow pornstar under the bus to make themselves look better?
For example, how can someone like Danny Mountain, who himself has been accused to doing the same thing, come out and have anything to say against Clover? Yet, he's so sympathetic to Morgan Lee on Twitter. There are plenty of people in the porn industry who have done things far worse, yet are still working, and now pretending to be so righetous. It just comes off as so blatantly hypocritical, which of course the porn industry is. Most of the guys in the porn industry have criminal records, including for domestic violence. But we're expected to believe that Clover is some horrible monster that some of the people in the industry are making him out to be.
What Clover did was wrong, and he shouldn't have done it. He knows that. Everyone makes mistakes. But it's so damn annoying when I see and hear people in the industry now acting like he's the only one who has done this, when we all know he isn't. I also have to wonder if all these other male pornstars who are putting on the show of sympathy are really all that concerned about domestic violence, or if they're just taking advantage of the opportunity to eliminate another popular male pornstar from among their competition. After all, if I'm a male pornstar, and enough people in the industry are pressured into no longer hiring Clover, then that means more work for me, right?
This industry is so duplicitous and backstabbing that it's ridiculous. I do hope that Clover continues to get work. I don't think he should have his whole career ended over some silly "porn politics," which is all this is.
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Posted - Jan 29 2015 : 4:59AM
^ Same guy that thinks War Machine got railroaded. The industry has no right to judge these guys, and neither does the legal system, apparently.
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