Comcast Announces 50Mb Cable Internet Service

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MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 2:46PM Comcast Announces 50Mb Cable Internet Service By MikeSouth A lot of you are going huh? Why is this porn news? At the same time Vivid, IVD, GVA and Metro Home Video are cringing. About a month ago I posted to one of the fan boi sites that the future of porn is in fact download to own and VOD, in HiDefinition of course. They all laughed saying that was ten years away. Idiots. Comcast announced yesterday that by mid 2010 50Mbs cable internet would be available to 100% of its customers. Verizon is already offering FIOS to its customers in selected areas with up to 24 Mbps. So you are all saying so what does all this mean South? Well I’ll tell ya what it means, it means that you would be able to simultaneously download 2 HiDefinition DVDs (Like Bluray) IN REAL TIME. In other words while you watch one movie you can download another and then burn them BOTH to DVD. And thats just the tip of the iceberg, Cable is capable of 168Mb/s. So much for ten years huh? If your company doesnt adapt you will be roadkill. Topic Moved by - heynow on Apr 5 2008 [Link]
Blink Deactivated User 78 Posts 2/08	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 3:07PM The europeans have been enjoying much faster residential Internet access than what is commonly available in America for some time now. I'm glad to see that American companies are finally planning to catch up. Of course, they'll probably overcharge for it... [Link]
MikeSouth Deactivated User 511 Posts 11/02	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 4:03PM Blink wrote: The europeans have been enjoying much faster residential Internet access than what is commonly available in America for some time now. I'm glad to see that American companies are finally planning to catch up. Of course, they'll probably overcharge for it... Click to expand to the tune of 149.00/month for 50Mb/s cable and 49/month for 24Mb FIOS course thats only 100/35 euros, respectively Fuck Bush [Link]
Porn Addict Member I Shoot Porn 218 Posts 12/05	Posted - Apr 4 2008 : 5:16PM I'm using Fios and love it! One thing that I hated with Comcast was the upload speed. What used to take me days to upload with Comcast takes just a few hours with Verizon. It's a huge difference when you're uploading 5 gigs at a time to a server. As web site bandwidth gets cheaper and internet speeds become quicker, VOD is definitely going to be taking over sooner than people expected. - PornAddict Click Here to Visit PornAddict.Com [Link]
major sharp Deactivated User 246 Posts 2/04	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 1:58AM I think it only takes comcast 10 minutes to download a 2 hour movie with their new system. But at 150 dollars a month I'll keep renting movies for 2 to 4 dollars a pop. [Link]

blowfish Member 874 Posts 1/08	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 7:36AM Blink wrote: The europeans have been enjoying much faster residential Internet access than what is commonly available in America for some time now. I'm glad to see that American companies are finally planning to catch up. Of course, they'll probably overcharge for it... Click to expand Its the cost of the infrastructure. Most Europeans live on top of each other. Americans in rural areas still have no options other than dial up. [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 3:35PM Plenty of rural area's in Europe too, but that does not necessarily mean you can't get a decent connection. And living in a densely populated area does not mean you can get a decent connection (try London). Jacco [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 3:43PM Porn Addict wrote: I'm using Fios and love it! dict.Com[/url]----------------- Here is what all you fuckers aren't paying attention to, I bet. Yes, companies like Verizon and Comcast are opening up the superhighway for downloads, etc., but then they are taking your money and spending it to defeat net neutrality. They're gonna basically have a monopoly on who owns the web, and it won't be you and me, even though it's public property! I use Verizon because it's the only game in town. (The local indy charges prices that are beyond my budget). BUt never forget these fuckers are EVIL. But yeah, fast downloads out the ASS! [Link]
Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 6:06PM Personally, I think that more and more ISP's will be throttling accounts as time goes on. Recently, DirecTV started doing Video On Demand with their HD DVR's. However, rather than using the satellite, the DVR's have an Ethernet connection and the downloads are being done through the Internet. I can't imagine that their competitors (cable companies and phone companies who are now getting into TV (such as Verizon's FIOS)) are particularly happy that their bandwidth is being used to provide content to DirecTV customers. [Link]
conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 6:14PM I think the throttling (I live in Canada) is absurd because customers have other options of services who don't throttle traffic. If I found Bell Canada was "shaping my connection" I would cancel their service. I don't even pirate but I do use bittorrent for file transfers. What I don't get is why there has not yet been a serious campaign aimed at people who pay for and use internet service WiFi not to have unsecured connections. You should get 5 bucks off your monthly bill if you have secured your internet access. [Link]
nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Apr 5 2008 : 6:41PM I had to dump Verizon because the connection degraded by about 90% so I had to bail. [Link]
major sharp Deactivated User 246 Posts 2/04	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 2:11AM What I want to know is what is the future of DVD's with the speed of downloads increasing? [Link]
customer20983 Member 77 Posts 2/08	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 8:31AM Yeah and for the majority of people who are NOT even now willing to largely pay for cable TV service at largely a BASE of US$50, this announcement is NOT going to be accessible for the masses. And for PRODUCERS to think that a lot of consumers who are worrying about water bills, mortgage, car payment in our current economic reality and think that such consumers are going to be shelling out even MORE for higher speeds is a deep dream at this point. That is the major reason why a LOT of USA consumers who statistically by some polls are still more than willing in largely developed cities -- LA, San Fran, Dallas, Fort Worth, NYC, Chicago to accept DIAL UP at base board prices of US$10 a month over Ethernet cable which most providers mandate either having cable TV service and charge an excessive price for or just charge an outrageous fee for the internet cable service by itself. And if you think paying about US$40 FOR ACCESS ALONE is a fair deal you probably have a growth hanging off your ear that rings and are also happy paying about 55 cents to hear it ring WITHOUT ANSWERING IT..... We were discussing this very same thing at CES earlier this year when Comcast promised this http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/01/comcasts-robert.html and immediately our first two questions were 1) exactly how much is it going to directly cost the BUSINESSES who ARE DEFINITELY GOING to have to pay to have his streets dug up again as these specs will NOT be ensured over current fiber -- though most agree a base CIR (commited info rate) standard over current specs is quote unquote guaranteed. Yeah the check is in the mail fer sure. In fact under most current specs "DOCs 3" is not even really a "reliable" specification right now as no one is guaranteeing it will perform in real world operations except again in conditions where the entire grid is completely configured to operate under their specs. How many telephone companies can you quote have completely ensured that EVERY switch, EVERY cable and EVERY interconnection THAT THEY OWN is up to this spec? Forget about handovers to other cable companies who have stated that they are NOT going to operate on this basis (AT&T) but just comcast itself. Again ENSURE that a complete point to point RELIABLE grid exists for you and your customers to have this as a reliable CIR? and 2) how much is comcast going to price this for residental access now that the sneaky pass through of Net Neutrality is laid in place? SOME early estimates say early adopters can expect to pay about US$200 PER MONTH for this service ALONE. I don't know about you but I do not think most consumers will be spending US$200 a month and then 25 to $50 for content access, when for $25 plus the time of shipping either by UPS or themselves going to the store I can largely get the same content. Again for those producers who believe that most of the consumers are going to openly pay for 1) to get the pipe for access (from their internet provider) AT THREE TO FIVE TIMES THE COST OF THE CONTENT AND THEN PAY AGAIN 2) for access to that content AND THEN 3) assemble that content and the galleries and applicable content -- promos, trailers, model information of the content -- themselves on their end is a fantasy. While the higher speed CAN be a boon to the solely internet webproducer who has the large pockets for early adoption AND existing resources to make that higher speed access actually be beneficial TO THEIR CONSUMERS this is again for the BULK of the end consumers NOT a benefit. And I think a lot of small range and many midrange producers as well as those self producer/perforemrs who say are a web cast performer who will continue to use low-end cameras to create and broadcast their content after such upgrade of connection will still NOT gain new customers. Any such adoption by such small and mid range producers will mandate that they ALSO invest in newer and more powerful HD cameras to take advantage of the greater bandwidth for improving their content. [Link]
customer20983 Member 77 Posts 2/08	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 8:41AM major sharp wrote: What I want to know is what is the future of DVD's with the speed of downloads increasing? Click to expand Guaranteed as far as the consumer basis is concerned. The only real problems I find most consumers are still barking about are the two main ones that have plagued them since the beginning 1) lack of availability of the DVD when THEY are looking for it especially in brick and mortar stores and 2) lack of immedaite gratification. Blame it on the TV dinner mentality but they want it RIGHT then or they say they were not really interested and move on. What I find is that a LOT of producers are trying to cut operational cost at the point of the consumer -- pass off glass mastering of the DVD, warehousing, shipping, inventory, stocking fees heck some producers -- who shall remain nameless as some are decent enough people I would like to keep talking with -- are even talking about elimination of menu and chapter creation and photo supplements for such download "burn to own" operations. But as far as clarity, portability and access most consumers I talk to and who are willing to talk to me say that they want a clean Hi Def source prefer getting their source on DVD and then rip themselves a lower level copy to carry on their palm drive, NOT to be forced to get a MP3/4 source AT COST. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 4:52PM Since there are many consumers who don't want to purchase DVDs online, I suspect that there are many who won't want to download online. Then there are ones like me who like getting the physical DVD. [Link]

brighter-discontent Member 31 Posts 1/08	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 9:37PM Just so u know 50MB/s isnt very fast..like at all! dial up runs at 56MB/s! i think your trying to 50GB/s!! [Link]
conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 9:43PM ^^^You have sources for these numbers? [Link]
brighter-discontent Member 31 Posts 1/08	Posted - Apr 6 2008 : 9:52PM actually u are right...my bad...this is what i get for posting at work where i cant look up shit before i post! [Link]
Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14595 Posts 3/02	Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 2:07AM A byte is eight bits, so it makes a considerable difference whether you're talking about megabytes (MB) or megabits (Mb). [Link]
major sharp Deactivated User 246 Posts 2/04	Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 10:18AM I don't see how anyone can buy brand new DVDs at a brick and mortar store and not get fleeced. I pay online for brand new DVDs from a price range of 5 bucks to 16 dollars. [Link]
Dave_K99 Member 497 Posts 12/07	Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 11:39AM It'll be interesting to see how many years I'll have to wait to see that kind of speed where I live. At the moment 2Mb is as fast as it gets, and it was stuck at 512Kb until quite recently. If I can watch streaming hi-def within 5 years, even using an expensive cable option, I'll be very surprised. [Link]
Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 8:09PM major sharp wrote: I don't see how anyone can buy brand new DVDs at a brick and mortar store and not get fleeced. I pay online for brand new DVDs from a price range of 5 bucks to 16 dollars. Click to expand It's easy if you buy DVD's often enough. The manager of my local store found out that I was buying online and asked me to give him a change to meet the online prices, which he did. For the most part, I'll tell him ahead of time what I want and he'll order an extra copy for me. He won't make as much on each disc as he does from other customers. But he has no inventory cost and he's making money from sales to me that he wouldn't otherwise be making. [Link]
customer20983 Member 77 Posts 2/08	Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 2:58AM major sharp wrote: I don't see how anyone can buy brand new DVDs at a brick and mortar store and not get fleeced. I pay online for brand new DVDs from a price range of 5 bucks to 16 dollars. Click to expand No offense but what online distributor is making profit at 16 dollars a DVD? Warehousing and inventory cost alone would eat that profit margin for that online seller from the distributor. DEFINITELY MORE than cut all profit if the reseller is buying directly from the direct producer even if the turn over is BEYOND almost-liquidation of ALL product stock that reseller gets. Even at a MASSIVE profit sacrifice -- minus of course simply dumping none selling product -- I would be interested to know how such online service is staying in business and remain able to PAY the studios for new source at selling studio product at 5 (for US$20 product) to 16 dollars (for US$45 product) as that is WAY WAY below wholesale prices of new product for resellers. [Link]
customer20983 Member 77 Posts 2/08	Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 3:13AM Bill wrote: major sharp wrote: I don't see how anyone can buy brand new DVDs at a brick and mortar store and not get fleeced. I pay online for brand new DVDs from a price range of 5 bucks to 16 dollars. Click to expand It's easy if you buy DVD's often enough. The manager of my local store found out that I was buying online and asked me to give him a change to meet the online prices, which he did. For the most part, I'll tell him ahead of time what I want and he'll order an extra copy for me. He won't make as much on each disc as he does from other customers. But he has no inventory cost and he's making money from sales to me that he wouldn't otherwise be making. Click to expand Bill I can understand resellers giving their bulk customers a discount perhaps even to the point that they are only making a slight to no profit transfers and making the bulk of their operational cost on the rank and film. But does your reseller cut your prices to the levels as major sharp is quoting. At that level I can not see ANY studio being able to stay in business at that reselling price to their distributor for NEW releases! [Link]
Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 7:26PM customer20983 wrote: But does your reseller cut your prices to the levels as major sharp is quoting. Click to expand It depends on the studio. Discs from a lot of companies go for less than $16. [Link]

RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 8:15PM I don't really know what I'd do with that kind of speed. Seems almost like you could suck half the internet dry in no time with that kind of speed. [Link]
ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03	Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 2:37AM brighter-discontent wrote: dial up runs at 56MB/s! Click to expand 56kb/s. [Link]
major sharp Deactivated User 246 Posts 2/04	Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 3:34AM I've bought quite a few DVDs at DVD Best Deal for 16 bucks with shipping. And their's quite a few sellers on Ebay who'll sell brand new DVD's for less. [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 1:16PM Well Iâ€™ll tell ya what it means, it means that you would be able to simultaneously download 2 HiDefinition DVDs (Like Bluray) IN REAL TIME. In other words while you watch one movie you can download another and then burn them BOTH to DVD. Click to expand 1. How do I get the boxcover? 2. Our home-burners are no way as good as the ones professional factories are using. Which means our discs will have discrot faster than the movies we buy from stores which are burned professionally. I will never ever go download only as long as I can buy movies at stores! [Link]
major sharp Deactivated User 246 Posts 2/04	Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 3:07PM I agree! I wonder how many don't even know how to record on their VCRs and were going to expect them do download movies onto a disc? [Link]
Dave_K99 Member 497 Posts 12/07	Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 8:16PM When there's more convergence between computers, hi-fi systems and video players, issues like burning discs will be irrelevant. I already use a media-centre PC to play all my movies/music, whether they're downloaded or bought on DVD/CD. The first thing I do when I buy a new CD or DVD is rip it to my PC, the physical disc gets packed away. It means I have a huge library at my fingertips whenever I'm looking for entertainment. Being able to download everything I want would simply remove a bit of time wasting. With on-demand services, super fast cable, and easy to use set-top boxes, the whole thing gets a lot less geeky. Let's face it, people are lazy (I know I am). If we're offered something more convenient, like the ability to get all the porn we want without dragging our fat asses of the couch, then most of us will go for it... [Link]