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shameless
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Posted - May 16 2003 : 2:04PM
One more previousely condom-free porn-chick spotted with rubber-dick inside of her...and it finally compells me to start a condom-blacklist for all strict non-condom porn fans:

BEWARE!!!
- Sophie Evans gets fucked with a condome in <Euro Angels Hardball #10>.
- Nikita Denise has a condom-dick in her ass in


Please add your findings (no Vivid-girls etc. - we know they use condoms always, just the usually condom-free RLD/EA/Ana-Dia etc girls).

Thank you so much!

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
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Posted - May 16 2003 : 5:53PM
A condom in a Christopf Clark movie? The whole system is breaking down :-(
BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

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Posted - May 16 2003 : 6:06PM
Good idea you got going here, shameless, though personally, condoms in scenes isn't that big a deal.

shameless
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Moscow
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1/03
Posted - May 16 2003 : 6:42PM
For me it is. But lets not quarrel pro or against condoms again. Stay on topic please and just send in your names for the blacklist. Thanks!
shameless
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Moscow
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1/03
Posted - May 17 2003 : 6:21AM
Seems I am my best collaborator for the moment: I am not as shocked of these actresses condom-use like I was to find out that Nikita and Sophie went rubber, but still...

...garanteed non-condom porn fans BEWARE of:

-Julia Ann in <Hercules>
-Evan Stone in <Role Models #3>
-Ruby in <Hot Bods & Tail Pipe #6>
-Isis in <New Chicks on the Block>

Send in your condom-usage findings on normally condom-free girls, please!

Thanks!


Edited by - Shameless on 5/17/2003 6:23:58 AM

 
shameless
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Moscow
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1/03
Posted - May 17 2003 : 10:00AM
Its nothing really new, as sad as it is to say: Christoph already let Olivia in World Sex Tour #18 get by wearing a condom (and this was Prague, not Brasil!).
To be honest, I thought he is tougher on non-condom, too. Just too bad there is hardly any director left who is really 100% committed to rubber-less porn.

Send in you findings, please, I dont want to get burnt again.

Edited by - Shameless on 5/17/2003 10:06:57 AM

Saki
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Posted - May 17 2003 : 4:12PM
All Wicked productions during the past several years are condoms-only, including Hercules .

- Saki [faqs]

Edited by - Saki on 5/17/2003 4:12:35 PM

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 17 2003 : 6:22PM
I will when I see them but so far I'm lucky for not having to face them in the movies I bought. I wish porn companies would put a condom-warning label on the boxcover like they do with CD's with offensive language.
Well, I doubt you will ever see a condom in a Thomas Zupko or Max Hardcore movie, I also doubt Jean Yves Lecastel will ever use condoms in his movies. I also thought Pierre Woodman was 100% anti-condom until I saw him using them in his Superfuckers serie.
picman
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1/03
Posted - May 17 2003 : 7:00PM
Sophie Evans used to work condoms only. I think it was in her interview for Gangbang Auditions that she explained that since her husband doesn't work with condoms it didn't make much sense for her to insist on it for her scenes. Hardball 10 is a fairly old title.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 17 2003 : 7:02PM
That will never happen. Your more likely to see movies that are condom-free being advertised as such. Advertising the presence of condoms would only hurt sales, so companies won't do it.

CD labels, on the other hand, only exist in order to prevent government intrusion (as are movie ratings). I don't think that the government (of any country) is going to get into a labelling debate over condoms with the adult industry at any time soon.

Also, although parents see CD labels as a reason not to allow their child to buy a CD, many kids see the same label as the reason that they should buy a title. No corresponding relationship exists for a company advertising the usage of condoms.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 17 2003 : 7:07PM
This is not one of those topics that can be debated. Some people hate condoms in porn and others don't mind them. The fact that they don't bother one person has nothing to do with the fact that others hate them. However, very few people prefer to see movies with them than without.

This is no different than the issue regarding watermarks. It doesn't bother some people, but others hate them. People aren't going to change their opinion based on the opinion of others (except for people who really didn't have their own opinion in the first place, and those people really don't matter).

shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 4:08PM
Its a shame, but he even used a condom himself fucking Erika Fire in Superfuckers #8.

- new entry: Erika Fire, SF8

(I dont enter all the rubber I had to endure in just 1 Marc Dorcel-film. His product is just rubber-infected)

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

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9/02
Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 4:53PM
HELLO?!! Won't see a rubber in a Tom Byron flick! (not including a coupla Cumback Pussy movies I did back in the day...)
Trust me,shameless - Unless I do a transexual or Brazilian
movie, you'll NEVER see a condom in an Evolution Erotica
release!
Latex-only girls can find plenty of work for Wicked, Vivid,etc.
I don't like to see condoms when I watch porn, so I refuse
to foist them on my audience. There is reliable testing
available now so there really is no excuse for it, other
than misguided PR reasons.
The day rubbers become mandatory in the US is the day I move to Europe!
tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
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Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 5:43PM
With Evil Angel, if a girl is so hot to the specific director that he absolutely has to hire her, but she's condom only, that's fine with us.

I'm not going to derail this thread, don't worry.

I just wanted to assure some of you that even though a previously non-condom girl is seen once with a condom, it doesn't necessarily mean she's switched to condom-only.

Sometimes specific circumstances warrant the girl feeling more comfortable with a condom on a specific day. (Maybe hers or the guy's testing is a couple weeks old, but they say it's OK if a condom is used... - by the way, that isn't a US thing, but could potentially happen in Europe.)

So although your list includes the names of the scenes that you are warning people against if they don't want to see condoms, I wonder if it would be more appropriate to call this topic condom scene - blacklist.

I'd hate to never see another Nakita Denise scene just because she used a condom once.

I know from experience there are many reasons that some girls are sporadic about their condom usage. Some of them use them when it's "allowed" but don't when it's not. Some of them will do a scene with a guy who's not on their list if he uses a condom.

Tom Byron
Evolution Erotica

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9/02
Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 7:24PM
My particular stance on that is no girl in the biz right now
exists that is that hot. I personally would rather see an
8 do a nasty anal condom-less scene with a nice cumshot
in the face than a 10 doing a tepid Vivid scene with a cumshot on the belly. That's just my personal opinion. Not
to say anyone doesn't have the right to request rubbers,everyone has to decide what level of risk they are willing to accept, it is just my choice not to hire them.
I really don't see how anyone could effectively mandate
condom usage. What if the scenes were with monogamous couples? If they somehow came up with a law making rubberless videos illegal in the mainstream, it would create
a thriving underground market. I think it's highly unlikely
any law would be passed on this, it's too much of an infringement on privacy. You never know, though...

 
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 9:04PM
Sometimes (not often), it's the guy who only works with condoms. IIRC, when Evan Stone married (or began dating) Jessica Drake, who is condom only, she told him that either he could work without condoms and use condoms in their personal life or be condom only at work and be condom-free in their personal life.

So, as Tricia said, don't assume that the existence of a condom in a scene automatically means that she's condom-only.

carioca
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10/02
Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 9:21PM
In Brazil there is a law proposal for to prohibit the exhibition, import and commercialization of films and pictures of explicit sex that don't have use of preservatives. (para os brasileiros, vejam o projeto).
If approved, it would be a great contribution for the smuggling and the piracy.
Mythsong
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Posted - Jul 6 2003 : 11:32PM
I agree. I think it would be a shame to "blacklist" any woman or studio just because a minority of scenes use condoms. Say you have somebody who's done hundreds of movies, then shows up in a condom scene. That's no reason to automatically add them to a blacklist. Sure, blacklist the movie if you want, but unless you have evidence that the woman (or studio) has switched completely, I think they should be left alone and allowed the few condom scenes.

Edited by - Mythsong on 7/7/2003 11:53:07 AM

shameless
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Posted - Jul 7 2003 : 7:06AM
Sorry, posted twice after trying to edit.

Edited by - Shameless on 7/7/2003 7:42:36 AM

shameless
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Moscow
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1/03
Posted - Jul 7 2003 : 7:38AM
shameless
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Moscow
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Posted - Jul 8 2003 : 9:12AM
I slept it over and to make it clear again: I dont mainly want to list condom-only girls here, I deliberately want to blacklist usually condom-free girls that are seen with a condom-dick inside of them.

I want to blacklist them because I think they set a bad example. They distroy a lot of joy. They make live of non-condom porn only-customers hard.
I dont want to blacklist them as persons or actresses. Neither I want to say they had become condom-only. But the bad example must be known. Me as a customer I want this info.

Please send in your findings! Thanks!

shameless
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Moscow
1313 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 11 2003 : 9:15AM
This girl in <Legal Skin #10>, Mona Lisa, is she the one that has starred bareback in Private dvds as well? If so, I need to list her here.

Also: BEWARE of Smash-Pictures, please!

Montreal
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121 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 11 2003 : 7:39PM
I don't like condoms in real life or in porn scenes that I am watching. I especially don't like condoms in interracial scenes -- they take the whole fantasy aspect out of the scene. But, I fully understand why some of the girls work with condoms. With so many of the male stars having a questionable record as exclusively heterosexual, or because their own private behaviour (known to performers more than us outsiders) puts them at risk, it is sometimes better to play safe. So, we should not be too hard on the condom-only actresses.
shameless
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Moscow
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1/03
Posted - Mar 22 2004 : 7:31PM
I am not talking about condom-only here, Montreal. I dont consider condom-only firms even. This is a list of usually bareback girls having gone condom in a certain scene. The condom-blacklist aims at warning strictly non-condom porn fans not to rent or buy a certain movie. That´s all.
shameless
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Moscow
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Posted - Mar 23 2004 : 5:01AM
You say it, Carioca: I dont think many porn fans in any country of the world would be willing to put up with such law.

On the other hand, I recently noticed that most Brasilan girls in US-productions are fucked bareback finally. Only 1-3 years ago, directors would claim that medical examination was not reliable enough to have them do it without condom. This is good news for all latina porn fans!
Me, I do quite like that exotic Brasilan touch, but wasnt able to enjoy a lot of those girls for a long time. Now finally they do it bareback and they do it all.

 
Pason
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Posted - Mar 24 2004 : 5:02PM
Even though I do non condom as well as condom. It depends on the company and the talent. I don't think there is a problem with a condom in a scene. I know everyone likes something different though. If I were to vote on porn being condom or not I would vote for it to be condom. You have to think about these things.

1. Adults buy porn but, you know their teenage kids are watching them when they can to learn about sex. I know my friends and brothers did. Even though my parents didn't have porn they would go over to other friends homes that did. Help teach safe sex. Also there are many, many college kids that watch porn for the same reason. It would just be a good training for them to get into the habit to see male talent putting a rubber on. So, when the guy is thinking with the other head it's just like second hand nature for them to put a rubber on themselves. Most people don't get tested outside the industry and it would help those teenage pregnancy rates.

2. People in the industry fucking around outside the industry. Come on you know some of them do, which brings things into us. Ok, well hopefully, we take some pills and it clears things up but, it would be nice if we didn't have that happening. Being on antibiotics all the time is really,really bad for you. I have thought about going condom only and still might. But I don't know yet.

3. Kris and I even though we are both talent we always use a condom for BJ and sex. To help protect us against getting things, which would of course hurt our work. I know other porn couples that do the same thing.

I don't want to offend anyone by no means but, I don't think its right to post a "black list." You have the right to not buy a condom video just like a performer has the right to work with one. There are many people out there that don't mind it. If a guy can't get it up because of a condom, sorry babe its not the condoms falt it's probably something emotional. I understand that you are probably posting this list for all of those who hate to see condoms. I just had to put my two sense in.

XOXO,
Pason
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Posted - Mar 24 2004 : 5:24PM
I agree with Pason and I'm closing this thread. If you want to discuss the presence of condoms in certain movies then go ahead. You have a no condom preference. That's fine. A blacklist isn't.



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