I read WST 18 with Laura Angel is all condom. Cannot believe Laura Angel did any condom porn at all! Sounds like a big let-down. And I was convinced Anabolic and Diabolic are all condom-free.
Is that true? Which other WSTs have condoms?
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AlexPanzer Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 13 2004 : 7:41AM
Maybe she was contaminated when the movie was shot, what do you think about this?
IIRC, that's the only one. It was shot at the time of the big HIV scare following the "dick of death" affair. Probably there was testing readily available in Prague and the guys just felt like they wouldn't take the risk.On a more general note, a lot of yankee companies just shot the seldom movie (or even single scenes) with some condom back in mid '98. Then most of them changed their minds when they saw that selling publishing rights of condomized movies in Europe was really difficult. But, IIRC, the only company that had a strict no condom policy no matter what was Extreme Associates. They really never shot even just one "protected sex" scene.
During the "dick of death" period some years ago, most American porn companies switched to a condom-only policy because it was the prudent and responsible thing to do at the time. It was probably the only time I have ever witnessed an ounce of genuine humanity in this industry. It was not you Europeans who convinced us to "wise up" however. The situation slowly sorted itself out and from it came the mandatory PCR/DNA test which replaced the old and less accurate ELISA and Western Blot test. The industry is much safer today than it has ever been. As far as Extreme Associates being the only company at the time to "really never shoot one protected scene", is that surprising to anyone? This is a company that taunted the Feds into indicting them. Responsibilty for actions is not one of Rob Blacks predominant traits. I'm not sure what my point is on this except that I'm happy that for a brief (very brief) instant, human welfare trumped commerce in the porn biz.
Sure, I have not seen 1998 in Porn Valley, but I would not call condom use <humanity>. I'd rather stick with professionalism, i.e. STD and HIV-testing.
But thanks for explaining me why a WST shot in 1998 looks different than I would expect from a company like Anabolic. I am glad these days are over still.
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Posted - Jan 14 2004 : 10:41AM
Question: Why are many members here complaining that all VMD shoots are condom shoots? I don't buy the explanation that condom porn will sell less in Europe in comparison to the USA.
Just to clear up the things and to not let me be misunderstood. I did not say that it was the Euro customers (including myself) who made American studios change their pro-condom position. Frankly, I am not that bothered by condomization of porn movies. Sure, I prefere them bareback, but I won't skip a flick that I think I can enjoy only because rubbers are used in it. For instance - and I don't say it just because Quasar is involved in the discussion - I recently bought a bunch of Metro DVDs from that period (from the "Air Tight" and "Back Seat Driver" series) because I knew I would have enjoyed the quality of the sex, of the performers and of the camera work, altought I perfectly knew that all the scenes had mandatory condoms.
The reflections in my previous post were more done on a sort of "insider" point of view. Back in '99-'00, for a few months I had been doing some website work for an Italian porn company named Wonderful Life, who was the official local distributor of Vivid movies. Basically I only wrote some texts and reviews for their website, but that gave me the chance to know some insider feeatures of the local porn market back then. That company had the desperate need of selling tapes (and the first DVDs) directly trough the web, simply because they didn't manage to sell them to videostores and sex shops. Owners of Euro stores usually don't have a clue about what sells and rents and what not, but they surely have some bell that ring automatically. One is when they see condoms on boxcovers, on the base of which they usually refuse to buy or ask for discounts. This wasn't the only reason for which Wonderful Life (who had to go out of business) didn't sell Vivid tapes around here. Bleached bimbos with implants are not on the top of Euro purchasers either, but the condom thing was one of the main failure reasons. I know for sure that those people asked to Vivid to stop the condom policy for the sake of their business, without any success. The same people told me that another, bigger, Italian distributor at some point switched from Elegant to Extreme Associates for the very same reason. It was much easier to sell bareback Rob Black stuff than Pat Collins condomized products to local retailers. So, it may very well be that the reason for the stop of the condom policy are the ones that Quasar listed, but I am 100% sure that there been a huge pression about this from local Euro licensors to yankee producers.