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Matt47
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 10:26AM
Hi all,
OK, so I am aware that porn DVD's are region free. I have had a Sony DVP-NS425P DVD player for 2 years now and it has had no issues playing porn. And now, there is an actual mainstream DVD from the UK that I ordered (this version of the movie will not be released in the US), the producers said it was Region 0 and I figured it'd be fine to play on my DVD player. I was wrong, the Sony cannot play the disc. I guess I was thinking that if the machine play porn, which is region free, that it would play this DVD set as Region 0 - where did I go wrong? Is there a way to get my Sony to play it? What if I burned a copy of this DVD to a DVD-R, would the Sony play that disc? Help me out if you can!
Kperv
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 10:56AM
What happens when you try and play it?
UK movies are in 50Hz PAL format, perhaps your player and/or TV can't handle that.
Matt47
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 10:59AM
That could be possible concerning the PAL format - when I place the DVD in the player it takes its time to read, then the display window simply read 'CANNOT PLAY DISC'...

Edited by - Matt47 on 9/14/2005 11:00:00 AM

Zoid
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 11:38AM
Unfortunately for you, your Sony player doesn't play PAL discs.

Edited by - Zoid on 9/14/2005 11:38:28 AM

Matt47
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 12:01PM
OK, good to know - do you think if I ended up buying a multi-region player, find that it plays the DVD but then would the TV itself have problems? My TV is a Sony HDTV...
 
Zoid
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 1:17PM
It might. As far as I know, you need both, DVD player and TV, to be able to handle PAL format in order for it work properly.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 3:55PM
You can get DVD players that are multi-region and will convert PAL to NTSC, so that your TV doesn't have to support PAL. There are a couple of threads in Tech Talk where some specific models have been named, so I suggest you do a search if that interests you.
Kperv
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 4:18PM
One word of warning about the cheap multi-region players: If the US ones are anything like the European ones, the conversion between 50Hz and 60Hz looks crap.

That's not much of an issue in Europe, as most (possibly even all) TVs sold in Europe in the last ten or more years are able to handle 60Hz signals just fine.
And as it is common to connect the player to the TV with an RGB capable SCART connection anyway to get the best picture, the NTSC/PAL format is not an issue either.

Is the situation the same in the US with multi-frequency TVs and RGB (or more likely component video) connections?

Matt47
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 4:59PM
OK, I did a seach and found this player listed, from Yamakawa:
http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail~DPNo~446229.asp,
so maybe I will grab it and then wonder if I will have the 50Hz and 60Hz TV picture conversion issue....
juha
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 6:59PM
I'm always surprised that people in the USA are not aware of this problem when they order DVDs from overseas.

I've grown up with the information that we use PAL, the GDR used Secam and the USA use NTSC (never the same color).

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 7:44PM
You'll be fine with that player. It's not region-free out of the box. Instructions to set it to Region 0 are on page one of the owners manual.

They are:
Switch on TV & DVD player

Press Eject Key to open the drive compartment.

Enter the numbers "9735" with your remote control.

A menu will appear.

Select the "Region" function with the cursor and then move to the right to select the region that you want to use. Confirm your selection by pressing the "Play" key.

You should select Region 0. This will work for the vast majority of discs. If you ever have a disc that gives you a problem, go through this again and select the region consistent with the disc.

Also, all porn discs are not region 0. Some European porn DVD's are region 2. Colmax is the first company that comes to mind.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 7:46PM
Because mainstream movies are almost always released in the US before being released in other countries, there is really no reason for most people here to have any reason to know that media from Europe won't work here.
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Posted - Sep 14 2005 : 10:28PM
I have a different older Yamakawa player that I use for multiregion discs and I'm very pleased with it.
Matt47
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Posted - Sep 15 2005 : 10:32AM
Thanks very much, Bill, for the info on changing regions on that Yamakawa. I was happy to get one, as their sale was about to end and they only had a few left in stock! I think I read that the remote also includes keys to set the player to convert all discs to NTSC?

And thanks Flash, for the good news on your player as well! :)

juha
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Posted - Sep 15 2005 : 11:45AM
Really true NTSC?
In Europe the dvd-players in the consumer's price segment convert NTSC to PAL60 which is kind of a mixed format between NTSC and PAL.
 
Matt47
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Posted - Sep 15 2005 : 3:07PM
Hmmm, very interesting. I could be noting a feature on another Yamakawa player I researched, but I thought a reviewer mentioned this option....
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 15 2005 : 8:02PM
Yes. But, unless you have an HDTV, be careful with that button. It cycles through PAL/Progressive Scan, NTSC/Progressive Scan, PAL/Interlaced, NTSC/Interlaced. It's easy to tell when the player is set to PAL because the picture rolls. However, if it is set to one of the Progressive scan modes and you are not connected through the Component cables, the screen will just be black.

If you ever have no picture with that player, try that button first. Chances are that someone probably pressed it by mistake.

It converts to true NTSC. However, the conversion from 50hz to 60hz makes the disc play a little slow (not by an amount that you would notice) and the conversion from 576 lines to 480 lines will zoom the picture a little.

Edited to change "the conversion from 50hz to 60hz makes the disc play a little fast " to "the conversion from 50hz to 60hz makes the disc play a little slow "

Edited by - Bill on 9/16/2005 5:45:45 PM

Matt47
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Posted - Sep 16 2005 : 12:08PM
Wow, again, superb info, Bill! :) I actually do have an HDTV, from Sony, so I guess this means I should be okay. I did not know about the conversion from 576 lines to 480 lines, however, interesting info. That Yamakawa DVD player is scheduled to arrive on Monday. If there are problems with it, I think you'll find me here, feverishly looking for more advice!



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