You need people with talent for writing or just performers with good improvisation talents.
I think they are very rare or just nobody wants to step out of the circle.

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Hang out on this board long enough and you're bound to see the phrase "with 10,000 titles a year, there something for everything". But when when you boil it down, 99.9% of these titles are, as you said, "either too much of the RLD,ANA/DIA cum oozing holes routine or the whole needless time-piece big feature shot on film garbage."

Inside the rather narrow parameter of gonzo/all sex, you can probably see every possible sex act one person can perpetrate on another, in every combination of genders, body types, ages, etc; so if "something for everyone" means all the possible permutations of cunt, cock, asshole, age, race, gender, size, then yes, there's probably something for everyone – everyone who relates to sex that way. And while that may be a substantial number of people who relate to sex that way, it's not everyone. Not nearly.

Meanwhile features still grind away, trying to do with $500,000 (or less) what Hollywood needs 100 times that amount (or more) to do credibly, then muddying the narrative waters with extended sex scenes; all with fairly predictably results – films that don't really work as movies or as porn, at least not for a lot of people who are open to the idea of watching sex on film, but whose tastes and standards are set by the very well-produced film and TV they see around them every day.

The trouble with what you're describing (Sex and the City, but porn) is that it would take as much money or more than producing something like Pirates , and it would be a lot harder to promote and sell. It's relatively easy to say, "We shot this in HiDef, on a real pirate ship, and it has 350 special effect shots." At least you can show the pirate ship and the skeletons!

It's much harder to say, "This film has a heat, raunch, and explicitness of porn movie, with the catchy, quirky fun of a good television show." Even if you could make a porno like that, how do you put that on a boxcover or poster? How do even get people to believe that a porn movie could be as well-made and watchable as an episode of Sex in the City. They'd have to see it to believe it, and that's much harder than you could ever imagine. (I know that at least half the good press that we've gotten was written by people who never even touched one of our DVDs, let alone actually watched one.)

When you're trying to make money, what you can sell is as important as what you can make; and what you're describing (which is something I'd very much like to see) is something that would be expensive to make, and in today's very crowded noisy market, would be very hard to sell. In short, it would be risky; and right now the prevailing conditions in the porn marketplace create a climate that is extremely risk averse.

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Edited by - TonyC on 1/28/2006 1:39:30 PM

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An excellent example of a story that is just enough to give some context and narrative drive, but not so much that it bogs things down can be seen in Crash Pad from Pink and White Productions (porn for pussies).

Whether or not one finds the hardcore, real dyke sex appealing is largely a matter of prediliction, but there's no denying that Shine Louis Houston has balanced the often divergent needs of narrative and sex quite nicely!

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In any event, I didn't understand Mr. Payday to be suggesting takeoff, so much as something with a similar production style: well dress, well groomed players, exciting, but realistic location, crisp production, and a light, smart attitude.

Payday?

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I liked Compulsion, too, but not more than Second Thoughts, All About Keri, Polarity, What's A Girl Gotta Do?, One Man's Obsession, Key Party, or Over Her Head, just to name a few recent examples.

They're not all masterpieces of cinema, but generally speaking there are nice sets and real-life wardrobe and no skeletons. Maybe I don't understand exactly what you mean, either.

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I can totally understand that it would be difficult in that one of the reasons why a show like Sex and the City is so popular is because the writing is extraordinary and it hooked the viewers by unique character's and story lines etc..

The only thing that I've seen come close to this is the Shane's World movies featuring Penny Flame.(College Guide to More Pussy and Girls Night Out.) The lead ups before the scene's hooked us(or me atleast) for example; Jerry and Penny Flame blind fold Terri Summers and he then proceeds to tease her and kiss her all over making her visibly wet and her nipples hard as hell. It was fantastic and they fucked like banshee's for the remaining standard 20 minute gonzo fair.

I guess I'm describing Vignette movies. But ones done with a purpose, not something that was shot on a MiniDV Cam in a week and a half.(No matter how great those movies are :D)

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The gonzo/all sex approach was (re)born in the wake of the video camera. Suddenly there was a way to make money in porn by spending a lot less money .

It's would be nice to thing that creative break throughs take place absent of economic insentive, and that artists are singlemindedly devoted to their visions, money be damned.

The reality is decidely more pedestrian. Everyone needs to eat, everyone wants a reliable set of wheels and a house that warm in the Winter. Those needs drive creativity as much as anything else; and the desire for something more than the basics is a powerful motivating force behind most innovation.

Right now the business side of porn is as stagnent as the creative side, and until a genuinely new opportunity to make money comes along, there's precious little to motive people to take either creative or financial risks. And in film, even if it's only low-budget porn, those are really one in the same.

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