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gejothho
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177 Posts
4/01
Posted - Sep 7 2001 : 6:26PM
To me it seems that all Wicked DVD's have copy protection.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Is it prevalent with other companies?

gejothho

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Sep 7 2001 : 7:20PM
Metro has it too (or at least they used to). In my opinion, this is a waste of money on the part of Wicked and Metro. Anyone who wants to make copies can easily circumvent the Macrovision.

The only real effect that the addition of Macrovision has is that we end up paying more for Wicked DVD's because of the increased cost.

David Lord
Member

236 Posts
9/00
Posted - Sep 10 2001 : 2:06PM
Well Bill I would have to disagree with you on one issue and agree on another.

It really does not cost all that much more per disc. Pennies to be exact. Our price structure has nothing to do with copy protection.

We also know that yes if someone really wanted to, they can break our copy protection , but Joe- Six pack can’t. I want to protect my product at all costs. Why does every major Hollywood studio do it? Because they want to protect their content just like we do.


David Crawford
Wicked Pictures

Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Sep 10 2001 : 2:27PM
Seeing that most authoring houses and duplicators are already licensed for Macrovision to support mainstream disc production, I don't see copy protection factoring that much into the costs unless the runs were extremely small and the facilities were not licensed.

- Saki

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Sep 10 2001 : 7:22PM
Saki,
The cost has nothing (or at least very little) to do with the duplicators ability to activate Macrovision. The studio must pay a licensing fee to Macrovision for every disc that they produce utilizing Macrovision.

There are two levels of Macrovision available to disc manufacturers. The standard is the same as on video tapes. It plays games with Automatic Gain Control in VCR's (which is intended to compensate for poor quality recordings) and makes the picture get darker and lighter. This level of Macrovision is why somebody who has a TV without Video inputs can not just run the DVD player through their VCR and into the TV. So even if your not doing anything wrong, Macrovision will screw you.

The second (and more expensive to the manufacturers) level of Macrovision is commonly known as Colorstriping. This causes colored (usually magenta) lines to appear on any video tape that has been copied from a protected DVD. This level of Macrovision doesn't affect playback when watching a DVD on a player connected through a VCR. Bur since level two is an "add-on" to level one, the problem with level one still applies.

I probably wouldn't have a problem with Macrovision if it didn't screw up the picture (on both pre-recorded tapes and DVD's) for people who were doing nothing wrong. Despite what the Macrovision people say, there are many TV's out there that are affected by Macrovision even when a VCR to DVD player is directly plugged into the TV.

 
Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Sep 10 2001 : 8:22PM
And from what I understand, the licensing fees are not excessive and really doesn't add enough expense to impact the street price of the discs, esp. compared to the costs of production, packaging, distribution, marketing, margin, and so forth.

Although it's really too bad that Macrovision does interfere with some TV setups (including those TV's with built-in VCRs), the fact that anyone can make perfect, first-generation VHS quality dupes from a DVD with no additional effort or expertise will probably justify the drawbacks in the eyes of the content owners.

And realistically, I'd think that Joe Consumer with a low end, old, or poorly designed TV will have more problems with a DVD player, since I don't know anyone who buys one just to play porn. I'd guess that quite a large percentage of mainstream discs are copy-protected...

- Saki




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