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ScottMcGowan
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"Skip the sex. I wanna see the stories." -Scott on Girlfriends Films
149 Posts
7/10
Posted - Jul 16 2014 : 7:58AM
So, I was just screening some stuff (I won't say what, you'll see why) and noticed something.
Seems like a lot of producers/directors are really skimping on the costumes in themed scenes that feature nurses, cheerleaders, school girls and other such characters. And that's a damned shame.
For instance, I just watched one DVD just now with a cheerleader theme where the girls were wearing workout shorts/sports bras and dollar store pom-poms.
C'mon, man!
Worse yet, it was an active, ongoing series of premium priced DVD's.
Almost as bad is costume-themed scenes where they strip everything off within the first couple of minutes.
The same could be said for lingerie, high-heels and similar sexy clothing. Why strip it off? It was made to look good!
Am I alone on this? For those of us who get into costumes or posh looking lingerie, do you find yourself as annoyed as I do when they use cheap knock-offs or strip it all off so quickly you don't even get to admire it?
And finally, do you like costume themes or are you just there for the fucking?
Edited by - ScottMcGowan on Jul 16 2014
N00dlesDaddy
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Layla...got me on my knees...
1793 Posts
7/13
Posted - Jul 16 2014 : 8:36AM
I'm firmly of the view that women in porn look better "accessorized" - be they nurses, strippers, schoolgirls, stewardesses...I'm always in favour of leaving some garments about her person once the fucking/sucking has commenced - it accentuates and heightens the fantasy. My personal favourite is the nurse fucking in just her hat (red cross mandatory, of course) and heels. The removal of heels in porn scenes is a sin punishable only by death, if you ask me.
ScottMcGowan
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"Skip the sex. I wanna see the stories." -Scott on Girlfriends Films
149 Posts
7/10
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 7:43AM
We don't share similar opinions on these matters at all!
/sarcasm
;)
Slector
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655 Posts
2/14
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 8:18AM
Cheerleader outfits and school girl uniforms are extremely sexy!! If they are wearing those then I say yeah leave some of it on. Other than that I prefer the girls to be 100% completely nude. I couldn't care less about high heels, but that's just me.
draghixafan
Senior Member

Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush!
2378 Posts
7/09
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 9:17AM
I heartily agree with everything you said, and also strongly advise to not waste any more of your breath or typing..
As I have been lamenting this very vocally here for years and NOTHING has changed, in fact as you point out its actually getting fucking worse!
So many themed titles that are only 3 minute intro, and then gonzo naked-couch-facial.
FUCK TODAYS PORN!
I was only last night posting but decided not to a thread called "maintaining scenario" asking is it really that difficult? After seeing Larkin Love as Elvira a HUGE fantasy of mine, but FFS halfway through she loses the outfit and then most importantly the wig, which COMPLETELY destroyed the fantasy.
AGAIN FUCK TODAYS ENDLESS DIRGE OF IDENTICAL PORN!!
And one thing I think is responsible for the financial troubles of the industry, How many times do they expect us to buy scenes of our favourite girls with only 3 mins of unique content.. and then the same naked-couch-facial.. again and again and again and again and again
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charn
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2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 7:42PM
My preference is they start nude and barefoot, or wearing some type of footwear that allows foot movement. The lack of all nude porn is part of why I don't watch much anymore. If they keep something on through the whole scene I might as well watch softcore or youtube.
Zoiper2009
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575 Posts
3/14
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 10:11PM
Think that ScottMcGowan may be pulling the legs of his fellow ADT members by launching this thread.
He complains that porn producers are "skimping on the costumes." Yeah, like us porn fans just hate it when we see a hot porn babe who is underdressed. Probably, one of the few examples most of us could think of where a costume would be too skimpy is if it were worn by a lady the size of a refrigerator.
I could see Saturday Night Live doing a parody skit on adult films that begins with a news flash: " People Outraged By Porn Actresses Wearing Skimpy Costumes."
C'mon now, complaining about costumes being too skimpy in a skin flick, is like bitching in Wendys because they served your burger on a paper plate, instead of a glass one.
draghixafan
Senior Member

Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush!
2378 Posts
7/09
Posted - Jul 21 2014 : 10:57PM
^ I dunno, plenty of threads eg sling bikinis were they strip off hot and skimpy bikinis every time.
ScottMcGowan
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"Skip the sex. I wanna see the stories." -Scott on Girlfriends Films
149 Posts
7/10
Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 9:35AM
Not at all.
Maybe you misunderstood me. When I say "skimping on the costumes," I mean going the super-cheap route or just fudging it. A sports bra and booty shorts do not make a cheerleader. A $30 novelty costume (with hot pink tartan style skirt) doesn't make for much of a schoolgirl.
And I'm not necessarily saying that everyone has to stay fully clothed. But if you're selling a costume theme, give it to me good.
Don't get me wrong. I like looking at naked girls.
I just ask that genres be done well rather than cutting corners.
Edited by - ScottMcGowan on 7/22/2014 9:36:45 AM
charn
fubar

2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 10:27AM
Cheerleading is more attitude than costume. Effective roleplaying (acting) starts with casting, writing, and maybe even a few minutes for rehearsing. Porn skimps on everything that's not a dick in a hole.
ScottMcGowan
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"Skip the sex. I wanna see the stories." -Scott on Girlfriends Films
149 Posts
7/10
Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 10:34AM
charn, I'll give ya that a lot producers/directors skimp on everything. Can't even try to deny that.
And you're right about roleplaying and rehearsal.
But the costume goes a long way, though. Not just to the viewer, but to the performer.
I've done a bit of (bad) acting on stage and screen. I'm a former small time professional wrestler. I do medieval re-enactments. And, if I haven't already outed myself as a complete and total turbo-nerd, I even do a bit of cosplay.
I can say with reasonable authority, that when you're trying to "get into character" a good costume sure as fuck helps you get there. I'm not the only one who says it either. There are tons of proper actors who say the same thing.
zambi
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1451 Posts
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Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 1:47PM
N00dlesDaddy
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Layla...got me on my knees...
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7/13
Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 3:39PM
'Schoolgirls' absolutely, positively must keep their ties on. Nobody does this genre better than Harmony's 'Young Harlots' series.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 5:51PM
Harmony is a good example of a studio that does not skimp on everything. Just look at some of the locations they use!
Jacco
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Posted - Jul 22 2014 : 9:26PM
Ultimately, I think everyone is "there for the fucking." But the setting and the costumes (or absence of them) are important, too. If it doesn't look right it can be distracting.
I'm not a fan of the costume cheerleaders or nurses scenes but I hear what you're saying. Nurses at most hospitals today wear scrubs (think Nurse Jackie). Don't know if people would like that look, but it it would be more realistic (and cheaper for the producers.
I'm totally down for the girls keeping their heels on while fucking -- for at least a third of the scene, anyway. I have a bit of a shoe and foot fetish, so well-kept feet, well-manicured nails and great-looking shoes are a turn-on for me.
This is just me, but I would like to see everything off by the end.
 
Zoiper2009
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Posted - Jul 23 2014 : 11:06PM
ScottMcGowan, I get your point about a good costume helping someone get into character. But viewers of porn are much less likely to make that willing suspension of disbelief that
accepting the reality of a character requires, than when these same viewers watch a character in a well done mainstream movie. For one thing, porn performers, with few exceptions, have had little, if any, actual training in acting. Plus producers realize that the main event, for most audience members, is the sex, which is why so many viewers keep a finger near the fast forward button. So why waste much production time and money crafting good scripts and shaping good performances, or worrying if costumes seem realistic, when rather than valuing those things, most viewers are simply wanting to see one or two hot sex scenes, in order to have an orgasm themselves.
And let's be real, most porn fans are fully aware that the thin plots found in 99% of adult films, exist for the one simple purpose of serving as a device to bring people together to fuck. Kind of like those old Kung Fu movies where the plot was only there to give guys reasons to get into fights.
Plus, if a director does bother to put some young women in realistic looking cheerleader uniforms, he does so with the knowledge that an awful lot of porn dogs will be hitting their fast forward buttons, eager to see the goodies that lie underneath those uniforms. A statistic from Blazinggrace.org about the viewing of hotel room porn rentals seems to verify that behavior. It is stated that the average hotel room porn video is watched for 12 minutes. Some of that short time is likely being spent scanning through the video to find the hottest scene that will help the viewer come. Since the typical porn sex scene is longer than even the full 12 minutes it looks like most folks are just viewing enough of the
juicy stuff to get their rocks off, then it's goodbye video. It's pretty obvious these guys are not taking the time to evaluate plot, (if any) quality of acting, or how accurate the wardrobe is for the story. These are things that most people only concern themselves with when watching a real movie, not when viewing videos that are basically a bunch of sex
scenes that are connected by nonsense.(if they have any logical connection with each other, at all)
Luke Ford, the author of the book "A History of X" once said: "The best hardcore porn film ever made would not even rank in quality up in the top twenty-five thousand mainstream movies ever made.(Over 40,000 American feature films have been made since The Great Train Robbery in 1903.)
Basically Ford says that people who look to porn for good acting or intelligent writing, (he could have added quality wardrobe to the list) must be doing some good drugs, because they don't live in reality.
With my porn I need a minimal plot, or none at all. Will have to say though, that in g/g videos, my favorite category, rather than things starting off right away with the women having sex, it's nice when there's some conversation beforehand, with preferably one girl seducing the other. If the seduction even comes close to seeming realistic, that makes a scene considerably hotter, to me anyway. But that's all the plot I need. And if I need to see really good acting I'll put on movies with performers like Cate Blanchett, Anthony Hopkins, or Meryl Streep in them.
draghixafan
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Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush!
2378 Posts
7/09
Posted - Jul 24 2014 : 12:17AM
^ For me its not about plots and acting, and whenever I talk about it most people start talking about plots and acting, its about having erotic scenarios that are maintained throughout the scene.
Edited by - draghixafan on 7/24/2014 12:20:37 AM
charn
fubar

2880 Posts
12/09
Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 10:47AM
If it's a roleplaying scene and all she does is put on a dollar store costume, that is still better than a more pornified costume of fishnets and heels. A cheerleader on the cover is a neutral image, between nude and wearing something ugly.
ninja1
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Posted - Jul 25 2014 : 3:22PM
IMO some costume-y themes are close to the realm of fetish, from the point of view of some viewers. Similar to high heels. If you are into high heels, you want to see some 6 inch stripper/hooker platforms or shiny stiletto patent pumps or other fetishy styles. Flip-flops with a chunky soles will not satisfy, even though they are still shoes and they have an elevated height. Sure, many viewers don't care because they only wanna see the naked/suck/fuck action. But for the benefit of those viewers who do care, why not spend the extra effort to get a few details right? It can't be much more expensive to buy a more authentic-looking outfit instead of something that looks like a last-minute afterthought quickie purchase. The viewers who don't care will just fast-forward to the sex, same as they always do, regardless of how great/horrible the non-sex aspects are. To the viewers who do care, it could be the difference between selling a subscription/DVD/rental or not.
ScottMcGowan
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"Skip the sex. I wanna see the stories." -Scott on Girlfriends Films
149 Posts
7/10
Posted - Aug 8 2014 : 6:28AM
Zoiper, you bring up a lot of points, so I'll kind of address them in-line
Then why bother with themes at all? Why call it 'Cheerleaders Getting Their Buttholes Fucked" when you can just say "Young Girls Getting Their Buttholes Fucked" instead? Why purposely do something that will inevitably disappoint even a small amount of enthusiasts/fetishists?
I've seen similar statistics when I previously worked for a major adult VOD company. But keep in mind that that's an average. It means there are plenty of people who are watching for much longer per stint, and those with much shorter viewing sessions.
Luke Ford was as biased as they come. He hates/hated this business and what you quote here is not a statistic or a fact, but the opinion of a man with an axe to grind. I therefore dismiss it wholesale.
I'm with ya, man. I'm not saying I expect porn films to be Wood Allen movies. And I don't expect Stormy Daniels to turn in an Oscar winning performance.
I just see it like this. If you're going to do something, do it as best you can. Don't be lazy. Put in some effort.
I mean, in one of the lesbian flicks you like with the seduction set-ups (I like those too, by the way), wouldn't you be disappointed if all of a sudden they started half-assing it?
fundog
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8/14
Posted - Aug 15 2014 : 10:28AM
I know costumes are important to some. But I'd like to see some straight guys in jock straps screw girls who wear cheerleader costumes for a change.
Not Lucy Lee (Fake Account)
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Posted - Jan 3 2015 : 8:55PM
I loved my rock-girl costume in atkpremium ;)
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Draxxx
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Posted - Jan 4 2015 : 6:46AM
I have to image that because the porn biz is in a downturn and there's less money to being made the people producing porn are simply spending less on costumes. Depending on the costumes and buying some for every girl (or at least having an inventory of some sort) it could be a major expense over time. The same could apply to the girls who buy their own outfits and bring them to the shoot. Many are clearing making less because they're working less so they buy less stuff or cheaper stuff. And/or they don't buy as many fetish outfits because that's the stuff they will hardly wear.
pat362
Senior Member

10083 Posts
3/10
Posted - Jan 4 2015 : 10:45AM
^Another possibility is that some girls have realized that their clothes were not very appealing after being used for a couple of hours in a porn shoot.
Mind you since most porn is gonzo and the girls tend to only wear a two piece bathing suit or a top and mini skirt in their scene then maybe most people don't care what the girl wears as she won't be wearing it for very long.
Draxxx
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3831 Posts
2/07
Posted - Jan 4 2015 : 11:16AM
I also think porn like most things go through different phases where some things are more popular at times than others. I think the costume and wild porn outfit era isn't as in style as it used to be. From what I see the stuff girls wear in general seem to be more basic and simplistic. I'm not seeing the fetish type outfits, corsets, garders, spandex and as much as I used to these days. There's a lot less flashy outfits these days.
Porn seems to be in an era of an overall less over the top porn look.
 
pat362
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10083 Posts
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Posted - Jan 4 2015 : 11:34AM
^The only place where I still see outfits being used is in lesbian porn. The stuff Girlfriends Films does still has outfits and it's always appropriate to the character being portrayed on screen. In fact lesbian porn is about the only place where you still get a scenario based porn scene with actual characters, dialogue, tease, foreplay, kissing(I can't emphasize the importance of kissing), more foreplay, stripping of clothes and not just removing a bikini or skirt and finally a sex scene that includes each person satisfying her partner and not a one girl satisfying the other like is more common in gonzo porn.
Cray
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Posted - Jan 4 2015 : 10:57PM
Stopping in to say yes. Yes to this.



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