I think I'll just tiptoe away quietly and let DB, lindi, heaven, lunacy, SueR, et al have this all to themselves. MAO

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I think the traditional term "couples porn" is a bit on the silly side, yes. I think it would be more appropriately phrased, "soft and happy porn" or something similar for lack of a better term. I mean, that's not a fair term either really--but that's really the crux of the question. What exactly would you call it?

That said though, REAL couples porn is all over the map, is as varied as porn itself, and depends on the indivudual couple that watches it. "Couples porn" to one couple might be boring and empty to another, and "couples porn" to another couple might be way too shocking to others. On the other hand, it is ... helpful to do a bit of a generic classification for "couples porn" when you're talking about appealing to couples who are inexperienced in watching porn together. To me, the couples porn genre as it's traditionally defined, is a starting point. Finding what appeals to you and your significant other beyond that is completely individual and it could be as hard and crazy as Fashionistas, or as soft and erotic as Andrew Blake. It just depends.

One more thing, you might not have met any of them, but there are a fair amount women out there who like porn... yes PORN. My wife is one of them, and enjoys stuff that is often harder and more intense than even I tend to like (and that's saying something...). A number of female posters here very much like porn of all varieties, from Heaven who likes it hard and intense, to SueR who can't do without a good sloppy facial in her porn, to Dumblonde who likes hardcore intensity without roughness or degredation, to Yogagrrl who has her own individual variety driven tastes. Women who watch porn are as varied as the men who watch it, and believe me... they are out there. The unfortunate thing is that I believe in most cases it's harder for women to find something to like about porn because most of it is truly geared toward men in a variety of ways.

That's my take on it. And just to stick one more bit of clarification in, "couples porn" as we use it here on ADT in the Lighter Side forum is loosely following that traditional definition I described earlier. We're all aware that couples porn is largely defined by the individual couple, but the idea is to discuss those movies that would ideally have a very large appeal to the traditionally defined couples market, and this forum (not the lighter side) is a more appropriate place to debate the "couples porn" definition, so I thank you 2Big for asking this question in this forum. :) It's a good question to explore and is worthy of some good discussion I think!

Anyone else have some thoughts?

Mike L.

Edited by - MLyons on 5/4/2003 4:53:17 PM

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"And Remember Life is too short not to try everything at least twice!"

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Not all men or women are alike, and not all people have boring or non-existant sexlives, some just like to watch a little porn now and then. Not everyone needs to see extreme or real nasty stuff to get aroused. What we really need is more VARIETY, not less.

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Speaking on behalf of my current GF, my ex and every other female I know that's both into porn and part of a heterosexual couple, women don't like that garbage. Most women are not into G/G, they're not into watching other women masturbate, they're not into 5-somes, choking or degradation. The sex doesn't have to be lame and dull, it just needs to accomodate the fact that what turns on a women is NOT what turns on the typical male porn viewer. Women want seduction, women want fantasy, women like b/g scenes without other women popping over to borrow a cup of sugar and deciding to strap on a 12" dildo to join the action. Women want the girls on screen to at least look like they're having a good time, not punching the clock. Women want a few more full body shots and fewer closeups that only a gynacologist could love. Women don't want ANYTHING that's typically depicted in any movie reviewed with the phrase "couples movie" mentioned anywhere in the review.

There should be a law that anyone doing a review that uses the word "couples" must prove that they're part of a couple and that their significant other found the film appropriate. We should give every reviewer a thesaurus so that they can find another way of saying "I was bored" or "damn that sucked!!!" without falling back on "couples movie".

Edited by - Vroomfondel on 5/5/2003 11:40:07 AM

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Your take on this is so perceptive and we (my wife and I) 100% agree.

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Concise and well stated. Cheers!

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