1) their disclaimer that "due to the drastically reduced pricing, crazy benzi must reserve the right to substitute any Video or DVD for a title of equal or greater value."

2) (I was going to give them a try) When you try to order on-line, they use a non-secure website for your credit card information.

Advice or Experience anyone?

Thanks

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I'd suggest that you call or write requesting information before placing an order.

~ GaySatyr

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But I guess I'll wait until I hear from someone who's had experience with them.

Perhaps u and I could make a movie celebrating the Great God Pan? :o)

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I see they registered a couple more domains with the same or similar deals: cum-shot-videos.net and both homosexual.bz gang-bangs.net(both now dead) and now crazybenzy.com and crazybenzy-offer.com (both gay offerings)

It's wierd that no one has posted a thing about any of these sites, and the only thing that googles is THIS thread about them and the sites themselves.. nothing else.

I will shy away until I hear from someone that's tried them. It is still interesting they seem registered to LeisureTime which then makes sense and seems 'safe', but I just don't know.

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Let me get this straight. You didn't get a single DVD, just the VHS tape?

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I had a feeling it was too good to be true. I didn't think it would be OUTRIGHT FRAUD.

All the pictures showed 7 hour (2x 3.5 hour LeisureTime) DVD's and the descriptions said the same. For them to send you a single VHS comp is outright fraud. I would go to FTC.GOV and file a complaint against them and include all of their aliases, including LeisureTime since thats where the domains are linked to.

I expected, at worst, DVD-R copies possibly. Not this.

I have edited the post to refect the issue, and this should get updated on Google's next index, since this is the only thing other than their sites that shows up on Google.

Again, I am very sorry. I hope you didn't place an order based upon my initial post. And to think I was going to send for all 60 titles :(

Here is the link to file an FTC Complaint: [ invalid url ] (note: Copy and paste to get rid of the extra http:// in front... it has to be https://)

Edited by - CreamLover on 1/24/2004 12:25:05 AM

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Take a lesson from this.

I am a little disappointed that Leisure Time Video is associated with the scam. I will think twice about using them in the future also.

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They show a pile of 7 hour (double 3.5 hour DVD-9 discs) DVD's. (Note how some are backwards images too :( )

They say you get UP TO 60 titles, and some of the "titles" are actually the names of the 7 hour LeisureTime comp dvd's.

However the implication of some wording COULD lead you to believe that you get a SINGLE DVD or VHS with "up to" 60 titles (aka "scenes" to them).

Clearly the scam is to just send you a single comp tape (or sometimes DVD?) that has up to the # of scenes you select when you think Title implies disc pairs (especially with the use of names of entire discs).

I didn't see it originally, but looking back now I could see how they could claim grey area legalities :(

Anyway, I'm sorry that anyone got taken by this scam. At least this thread is in google and will help others save their money.

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~She told me that I paid for 10 "TITLES" not full length DVDS.

~I asked to speak with her supervisor, and she wouldn't give me her name. Only Operator #261.

~I told her I wanted a refund, and she told me that there is NO GUARENTEE. So I just lost $31.00 , oh well. She told me that she ALWAYS LOOKS BETWEEN THE FINE LINES.

~I guess I learned an important lesson. "Sex with a real person is better than porn anyday."

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Crooks and scam "artists" like that really burn me up!

There should be something we could do to close them down.

Maybe we should start a not-for-profit organization and use it to petition the Attorney General of the state in which these crooks are located. Start our own Porno Better Business Bureau ?

If I ever get to be KING, these bastards would lose their heads!

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They cashed my check for $64.80 and then Leisure Time
sent me a request for $6.00 more for shipping.

That was a month ago and I haven't gotten anything yet!

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One had brief pissing scenes and was about 100 minutes long, the other one was 90 minute and had no pissing/watersports whatsoever.

And yes the content on both DVD was awful as well.

I will never buy a Leisure Time product again!

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so I still need some way to contact these people

And if I get a good address I'll also fill out the fraud complaint posted earlier. These guys really need to be put out of business!

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Strange that nothing in the box etc. identifies Crazy-Benzi.
In fact it's L.T.E, which we know is Leisure Time Enterprises.

I ordered this stuff back in December and when it didn't come for over a month I had my check photocopied from the bank. You can't read any of the info on the back of the check, so I couldn't trace the source (and neither could my bank.)

So I'm still very suspicious. But I'll check out one of the DVDs this weekend.

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It appears that I will get more than I expected
for 9.95 from each of 6 DVDs and 6.00 P&H.

Did they see our gripes, or was it simply a longer
than usual delay in getting my shipment.

I don't know. But what I saw on the first DVD was
worth the money.

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Damaeus

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and the orders go to:

P. O. Box 10688
Merrillville, IN
46411-0688

They've got a bunch of new stuff that's priced at $3.95 per DVD (plus $1 shipping) if you order 20 or more videos. [ But as we all know, there will be 10 or more videos on a 4-7 hour DVD. ]

The real problem is whether you can get what you want or not. I'm making a final test with an order of 32 videos, for which I'm supposed to get another dozen or so free.

I made the order today, and I'll let you know what I get etc. as soon as it arrives. Hopefully it won't take two months this time!

warthog

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They fool you by showing stacks of 7 hour double-disc DVD's as the way Leisure Time sells them and then go on to list 60 "titles" some of which exactly match the "title" of the 7 hour DVD's, while many do not.

Therein lies the scam. When was the last time you purchased an adult dvd where "each scene" is a "title"? That's the scam. They are selling you 60 SCENES not 60 TITLES.

It's clearly set up to fool any resonable adult. If they're selling scenes, then sell scenes, not "titles" which implies whole discs.

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for those of you who don't read the first forum, we have stopped listing leisure time dvds on our site because they're all a rip off.

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Another new 'company' is pulling this scam. It's not their only source of sales, but is a portion of it.

You may have received in the mail a flyer from "DirectVideoAndDvd" or "DirectDVDPlatinum". Add a .com to either and they point to the same site.

They are selling all the 4, 7, 8, 21 (3x7), 24 (3x8) hour comp tapes from LeisureTime.

Also, ala Crazy Benzi, they have a section dedicated to selling "titles" on one page, "scenes" on the other.

In the first case, it's the EXACT SAME PICTURES AND TEXT as on the CrazyBenzi site. They sell you each "title" for 99 cents. They then state all 10 for $9.95.

The next column has similar ones where you pay 5 cents per SCENE or $1.10 per title. The small print goes on to say only good when you purchase ALL of them together. 200 SCENES per "movie", 9 "titles" per SKU = $9.95.

So yet another company playing liberal games with the definition of a:

- SCENE (apparently a subset of a 'title', or say 2 mins -- good grief!! (7 hr * 60 min / 200 scenes = 2.1 mins)
- TITLE (not a "disc" but rather a 'session', or 10-30 mins)
- MOVIE (an entire multi-hour disc containing titles or scenes)

It is of course confusing, and meant to be. At least the extra text and finer print from these guys does expose their game, unlike Crazy Benzi (that is still operating over 2 years later :( ).

Oh yeah, the other scam this place does is prominently place pricing of $5 per disc (for their other non-crazy benzi type offers), but in fine print says it excludes a lot of them and requires purchase of at least 20 to get that price, otherwise $8.95/$9.95 each. There probably are more fine print that I didn't spend the time reading.

Just wanted to post this to keep others from falling into the same trap from these LTE scamming resellers. (The videos are bad enough, the sales tactics are even worse)

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