Again, lets get back to anatomy here...the bladder has 3 pipes connected to it, to ureters and one urethrea. Ureters drain the kidneys-urine. Urethra drains the bladder. Now, there is the possibility of retrograde ejaculation, but this is uncommon and would result in only the volume of ejaculate being transported to the bladder.
The fluid coming out of the bladder had to come from somewhere. Its urine.
Read up on stress incontinence and female orgasm. Lots and lots of articles on it. And it doesn't involve invoking magical powers.
......More on squirting. For anybody who is interested.....go to...www.The-Clitoris.com.....click on the "No Frames" version, then click on the "Female sexual arousal and orgasm" link, and then click on the "G Spot and female ejaculation" link.....all sorts of info in their.....including experimentation as to how much fluid comes out.....everything you might want to know about the para urethral glands.....and so forth......after reading that info.....we all can continue our debate about F.E....later E
'One study found women produced 30 to 50 ccs [7 to 15 oz][30 to 50 ml] in 30 to 50 seconds. To produce this much fluid the glands would need to fill and empty once or more times per second. That means the paraurethral glands would need to produce 3 to 5 ccs [0.23 to 0.30 oz][3 to 5 ml] per second on average. If the paraurethral glands do have the capacity to fill and empty at a rapid rate, that would explain the large volumes of fluid measured by some investigators. It would also mean the longer a woman's orgasm lasted, the more she would ejaculate; as is often the case. If this is all true, it is possible for a woman to ejaculate a considerable amount of fluid without it being urine or liquid from the bladder. Obviously, more research needs to be done to clarify this; perhaps using ultrasound to observe the glands during sexual arousal and orgasm.'
First, he's reporting on one un-cited study. Second, he's making his anatomical facts try to match this purported physiologic event by giving these tiny glands a hyperactive refill every second ability. Its a nice mixture of fact, conjecture, and crap.
To be Totally honest........... We have shot Cytheria 5 times this year already. And I have personally watched her douse my camrea on more then one occaision, along with the squriting, you will notice how she actually quivers, and colvulses. Thie is real, I have witnessed it. Trust me, it's not fake.
Did you even read the whole article? By the end, he says that female ejaculate is most likely urination. He supports your theory. Why attack the article that supports you?
Read it. Just because he agrees with my point doesn't make it a good article. The section I quoted mixed in bad conjecture with good science. I do agree with his final conclusion, though.
Hey, when's someone gonna come out with a movie called "Bladder Babes"? It'll sell like hotcakes.
I've got no problem with anyone who wants to believe whatever they want, it's a free country after all. But pointing to what happens during a porn scene as "proof" that female ejaculation is real, is well, really debatable.
From my one viewing of an entire Cytherea scene, in ZT's Who's your Daddy 4, there definitely isn't any fake liquid delivery devices in use (i.e, a turkey baster), since the m.e.e. (multiple emission events) did happen without any editing cuts. She sure does look like she is experiencing a lot of pleasure, or else she's a damn good actress who can fake the look of pleasure. The liquid that comes streaming out of her body comes out in a rather strong stream, sometimes in an upward arc, and there's several ounces to an emission; it's definitely not a teaspoon or two.
My initial thought on viewing this whole thing - caught lovingly in slow motion by Mike Quasar, as only he could do - was where is she storing up all that liquid? Does she have some special storage vessel in her body? Or is it pee, diluted enough due to drinking a large amount of liquids before the scene, so it doesn't look yellow?
I agree with Myk - the articles people are pointing to as references on the Internet are rather unpersuasive in their arguments. They certainly don't rise to the level of a medical or scientific paper. Just because someone posts something on the Internet does not make it true or convincing.
Why are people so interested in these liquid events to begin with? Are there porn fans out there who want to see a female equivalent to the male cum shot, so that they will know with certainty when a woman has had an orgasm? Is that what's driving this? Or is it that squirting is simply this year's circus act du jour, and by next year the porn world will move onto something else?
All I'm saying is (and I swear I'm finished after this) urine is defined to be the fluid containing urea that is expelled from the body during the excretory process of urination. I think we can all agree on that, if nothing else.
But, if you take a given volume of urine and remove the urea, what's left? Chemically, I mean, what remains in the beaker? Whatever it is, it isn't urine. Call it flutergork for all I care, but without urea, it isn't urine. So, all I was trying to get across was that the fluid isn't urine. I don't care where it comes from (obviously the bladder supplies/stores this fluid in some manner - when people talk about the paraurethral glands, they don't speak in the quantities or force we've all seen in these movies). And I don't really care about piss. I have no issues with bodily fluids. I guess that makes me a nit-picking asshole, to be so obsessed with a name, but that's the mathematician in me - always worried about the specifics and the details.
To sum up, my last thought is this: if there's no urea, it isn't urine, I don't care where it comes from. You wouldn't call a fluid salt-water if there was no salt in it.
It's worth noting when we're talking of science that female sexual anatomy is not completely known or understood. It was not until 1998 that an Australian urologist, Helen O'Connell, discovered that the clitoris is twice as large and more complex than generally described in medical texts.
In the discussion section of her research paper "Anatomical Relationship Between the Urethra and Clitoris." H.E.Connell and others, Journal of Urology Vol 159 p 1892 (1998) O'Connell comments that there has been suprisingly little investigation into basic female sexual anatomy or physiology since Masters and Johnson. (1966)
The conclusions of her paper state "A series of detailed dissections suggest that current anatomical descriptions of female urethral and genital anantomy are inaccurate."
She goes on in her conclusion to recommend amongst other things the renaming of sections of the clitoris.
"Not even the anatomists' bible Gray's Anatomy -describe in detail the nerves and the blood vessels that go to the clitoris. "For a surgeon," says O'Connell,"that's unacceptable."
New Scientist -The Truth About Women. Vol 159 issue 2145-01 August 1998, page 34.
"Our own bodies should be about the most studied, dissected and mapped part of the natural world. But an anatomist at the Royal Melbourne Hospital has now found that doctors have never really understood the gross anatomy of the clitoris, let alone the fine details of its blood and nerve supply."
New Scientist Aug 1998
My point is that we do not know or fully understand the sexual anatomy or physiology of women.
Electronic Journal of Human Sexuality Volume 4, August 25, 2001 www.ejhs.org Urethral Expulsions During Sensual Arousal and Bladder Catheterization in Seven Human Females
I just shot Cytherea in "Semen Demons" and she was fucking unbeliveable! Huge, powerfull, multiple, blasts of girl juice inches from a hungry, pretty face. FEMALE EJACULATE RULES!!! Also, during the filming of Squirtwoman, Squirtwoman#2 and Semen Demons I have been blasted in the face by Cytherea's love sauce many times. It is sweet. IT IS NOT PISS!
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Posted - Jun 21 2004 : 2:47PM
Considering how good a powerful piss feels, if a woman can train herself to combine that with an orgasm it would make for a very intense sensation. Anybody who has gone on a water diet, downing countless cups of water over the course of a day, knows that after awhile all they can do is pee, and after awhile it isn't yellow anymore. I think everybody involved should just enjoy it and not worry about what it is.
Or anybody who has been in the position of having to clean their urine for a drug test.
Of course, that person has certainly never been me.
If it is pee(It obviously comes from the bladder, dilution of urea not withstanding) then I think Cytheria must be getting tired of having to down so much water before a shoot, just to keep it clear. I would get tired of it quickly.
Well I have been watching this for sometime now and some of you people sure have strong opinions about me and my orgasms. I cant speak for all talent out there but I can assure you all that I pee before my scenes and after. What you all see is me in the middle of a great orgasm. It doesnt really matter what I say though. Those of you that dont believe I am squirting wont be convinced by anything I write here anyway. What I will do though is offer a wager to any of you naysayers. You can come with me to a set. Drink as much water as you wish. I challenge you to piss everytime I have an orgasm. No human can piss as much as you all claim I am on a daily basis. Thanxxx for all the support. My fans rock.....
Hey, Cytheria, I secretly thought your dvd rocked and posted this to get some 'juices' flowing on the subject. I often play devils advocate and argue things from both sides. Female orgasms with squirting? Could be real, be could forced, I don't really care, its hot...
Note how many people have answered or read this post; your fans have shown you love. I have watched your Squirtwoman dvd a few times now; its growing on me. I really liked your scene in barefootconfidential26 and multiPOV, and you got a nomination from me to XRCO.
See you at AVN! I would challenge you to the piss contest but my prostate was damaged watching Masons' Riot Sluts1.
Wasn't trying to knock you or your film-haven't seen it, to be honest. I just don't know of anything other than your bladder that can hold that much fluid down there. Not a problem, not a criticizm. Just not the anatomy I know.
I am not into the whole "pee" thing myself. But there is something about the way Cytherea "squirts". Maybe its the look on her face or the way her body shakes?
Regardless of what it is....Its damn hot! I have been grabbing as many Cytherea vids as I can, and I will probably pick up Squirtwoman as well. Instant fan.
just got my copy of Squirtwoman and it is easily one of the best movies i have ever seen
Cytherea is in every scene, squirting away multiple times per scene and the creampie finishes were the frosting to a great cake. esp the last scene with Roxanne Hall and Cytherea drips multiple creampie loads onto Hall's face then drowns her with a huge squirt. simply amazing and cant wait for part 2 (hopefully will have more creampies as well)
what I want to know is where are the guys who are in these films running from a woman who squirts. I order "Welcum to Casa Butts" because of Flowers squriting scene in it, but when she let loose in the orgy scene the guy who was inside her ran away like she was shooting acid at him I mean you want a woman to swallow gallons of cum (as I do), but she squirts and you run for the hills? strange.
If and it seems now a big if,lol, I ever have Ariana ready to squirt on me I will first take off my glasses and then smile away as she lets loose her torrent of lovejuice!! How's that babe, give me a call why don't you,lol!!
how about a squirting and swallowing film next that would take care of two fetishes for me in one film. problem is like every new fetish or film genre it would take a good long while because that over the top, explosive film was released
There's a big oral/squirting orgy in the beginning, featuring Ariana Jollee, Teagan Presley, Tyla Wynn, Amber Simpson, and Cytherea, where they all squirt, suck cock and take loads on their pretty faces (except for Cytherea, who just paints the room with her juice).
i've worked with cy b4 and its so not piss i've even tasted it. and also i can squirt myself and i know its not piss. maybe some of the aclaimed "squirters" take a pee when they get off..but from experience i havent come across that... open wide i'll give you a taste..judge for yourself HEEHEE. kinzie
Graham, I noticed Squirtwoman suffered from the halo/colourshift problem discussed in this thread.
Are you on top of this problem, and will it be solved in time for Squirtwoman #2?
While it wasn't as bad as on some other studio's titles and didn't completely ruin Squirtwoman for me, it still pissed me off no end, and has made me weary of buying any other Elegant Angel titles.
I have drank quirt!! It is not piss! It tastes like sugar water, and it is milky white color. When Cytheria made me quirt, I felt my g spot becoming red hot and then it was like a little explosion that felt really really good. It is a feelng I crave all the time now. The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that it renders you incapable of doing anything but lying down the rest of the day after you squirt. It seems to zap every ounce of energy in your body and you can hardly move for at least 5 hours after. Hey, instaead of sleepy pills for you insomniac women, learn to squirt, I freaking guarantee you'll never have problems sleeping again!
I investigated the problems you highlighted with our DVD authorer and he informed me there was an issue in the past with a pre-processor that has been subsequently rectified. I think it was discussed more elaborately on the thread that you refered me to.
I've viewed our most recently produced DVD's, Semen Demons, and Big Wet Asses 4, and I haven't been able to detect the problems you describe. I hope this answers your question, and gives you some assurance that we care deeply about the quality of our DVD's, and that our customers viewing experience isn't compromised by these types of problems.
Just generally speaking, our DVD's at Elegant have remarkably improved over the past few months, hopefully setting a standard for the future, with Semen Demons and Big Wet Asses 4 featuring full motion menus, transitions, multiple chapter breaks per scene, BTS, bonus scene's, Photo Galleries and Easter Eggs.
We always want to make our DVD's as good as they possibly can be. So if you have any suggestions of stuff you'd like to see, to make further improvements, then please feel free to me with your thoughts via email, or on a forum like this.
Good to hear Graham. And yes your DVD's have improved. The addition of real BTS footage is nice. And the disappearance of the freaky photoshopped pictures I've seen on an older title is also much appreciated. What the f*** were they about? Apart from the one for Squirtwoman, your trailers still put me off big time. As I consequently haven't bought any other titles, I can't judge whether the actual DVD's are as weird as the trailers. The trailer for Squirtwoman was much better IMHO.
The movie was nice too. Cytherea is totally hot, and I like the wet action. I'm firmly in the "it's clear pee" camp. That doesn't mean that I'm sure the actual squirting/peeing isn't caused by orgasmic spasms. As it's just a movie, I don't really care whether the pee geyser is uncontrolled orgasmic spasms or fully controlled for the camera's benefit. It's just fun.
Skeeter, aren't you afraid you'll be expelled from the secret porn director's lodge for spilling the beans like that?
Skeeter wrote: "......Ammonia is in piss, all squrting so far that I have tested has showed ammonia!"
hmmmmmmm well all Dobermans are dogs therefore all dogs are Dobermans. We learned that debate trick as freshmen in highschool. I also wanna come over to you and Bridgettes house. Ill bet the water in your pool is really fuckin well taken care of. Love ya.....Cy
PS-I hear that I am working with your wife next week. I cant wait
I just saw this one and I thought it was amazing. I love to see the girls really come (I can't see why I'd be fake) instead of some girls just moaning and screaming, clearly faking, thinking they pass it of as they come.
I loved the fact that the girls really seemed to enjoy each other, from the kissing (real kisses, not just swirling tounges) to the eyecontact and the smiles.
And I thought it was really hot to see Cythereas big streams. Can't wait to see the next one.
Posted - Jun 20 2004 : 1:56PM
