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OREN
Anarchy Films

250 Posts
12/03
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 2:52PM
In the past 5 years I've shot over 250 movies with over a thousand scenes and different girls. Some of the scenes were not HOT and never saw the light of day, some scenes are funny as hell, some scenes are just bad chimes try between the talents. My question is should I put all those scenes together as a DVD and title it DEAD FUCKS? Or it is to insulting to the talent and those scenes should be left at the vault?
Oren
Anarchy
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 2:55PM
Why keep it in the vault if you can money from it? I'm speaking from a business point of view of course.
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 7:27PM
Your title idea is tasteless and not funny at all.
How about FUCK FAULTS?
I can imagine this being a funny bonus on a DVD if done right.
But it would require good editing and voice-over.
juha
Senior Member

2752 Posts
3/05
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 7:31PM
Possibly talent will be reluctant to work for you in the future if you put out such a DVD.
Nobody wants to end up in a worst scenes ever comp.
stinkfist
Senior Member

Subterfuge......
7401 Posts
4/07
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 7:33PM
Anarchy Films presents a Porn Parody.
 
BigBobxxx
Senior Member

2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 7:42PM
I'd try editing them into BJ movies.
With a little editing, most anything can be turned into a usable tease/BJ/cumshot scene.
A DVD of funny fuck-ups might be interesting as long as they're genuinely funny. Kind of a mix between a scene and behind-the-scenes.
Under no circumstances put out anything that makes talent look really bad -- particularly if they took a lesser rate and/or performed some make-ups to compensate you for lousy scenes.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 8:03PM
I guess my question would be - How do you know the scenes are really as bad as you think they are? At the end of the day, it's the viewer who decides if it's hot or not. The director can only hope he or she has done something right.
I'm not sure "Dead Fucks" would be the right name. Maybe something a little more neutral. You never know what people are gonna like. Maybe put a couple of scenes together and send them out as short screeners and see what some reviewers have to say.
ma meeshka
Iconoclastic Member

3939 Posts
4/06
Posted - Oct 31 2007 : 10:37PM
will you bill yourself as TACTLESS CUNT?
if so, yes.
ronin3
Member

82 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 1 2007 : 7:50AM
There was a recent release of an old scene with Daisey Marie
and MaxHardcore. As the scene ends he says "this is a total
wipeout" in disapointment because she failed to keep her mouth open during the cumshot (per his cookie cutter method). Hey, Daisey was doing just fine as a new girl.
Just pointing out something said before, sometimes a dead fuck scene is in the eye of the viewer. If anything the scene suffered because of "his" lack of ability to adjust
to what was going on. A lot like those people with autism
who get bizarre when they break their routine.
Siskel and Ebert hated a lot of movies that broke world box office records..(Home Alone for example).
To me Tera P. is bland but to the world she's a top performer. You never know until it gets out there......
Gentleman Jon All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

1881 Posts
6/05
Posted - Nov 1 2007 : 9:56AM
Funny scenes would be good as extras on other releases. The scenes that are just plain bad should stay unreleased. "Dead Fucks" is a really bad title anyway, it sounds like a compilation of scenes by performers who are no longer among the living.
absynth
Member

absynth makes the heart grow fonder
434 Posts
8/06
Posted - Nov 1 2007 : 3:58PM
Yes, I've suggested "Stiff Competition," for such a compilation...
I think it's in poor taste to put performers on blast like that, not to mention burn bridges, but I wouldn't be opposed to watching bloopers/comical moments.
Pocketcomb_Pimp
Deactivated User

1921 Posts
7/03
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 2:21AM
There are enough dead fuck scenes and it's killing the industry. In my opinion, all you would do is piss off the people in the scenes. Wanna make a buck. Stream it off your site.
Jackstah
Member

531 Posts
3/07
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 2:23AM
hm what if you reshot the girls with better scenes and have like a before and after type of thing.
Porn Star Makeover or something.
Porn Scout
Deactivated User

3735 Posts
10/02
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 3:41AM
I don't know what this means.
greeklover
New Member

3 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 6:36AM
That would be 2 hours of Allie Sin scenes.
 
IWAdult
Member

628 Posts
5/06
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 12:07PM
I think this is a double edged sword so to speak.
If you put these “lost scenes” out people will say your are “over saturating the market” (see other thread on the topic.) Or they might say you’re out to make a quick buck, which I know we all need to make money, but at what cost?
What if you put these less than stellar scenes out and non-regular porn fans think your company puts out bad quality material?
Maybe you could compile the funny stuff as a bloopers-type film?
I am just thinking out loud so to speak.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do with the material.
Troy
devinnlane
Devinn Lane

429 Posts
1/04
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 12:17PM
Release it on the net, but add some commentary from other naked stars. Maybe something like Mystery Science Theater.
xoxo
Devinn
BigBobxxx
Senior Member

2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 12:34PM
This is an excellent idea!
Kami Andrews should be one of the three critics sitting in the front row :)
OREN
Anarchy Films

250 Posts
12/03
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 12:37PM
Very interesting comments, thanks. Although everything goes in porn. Girls are been called White Trashes, Whores, Sluts, Bithes and Hoes in movies, I don't think they need to be called Dead Fucks. Although, they are plenty of them out there. What I think I will do is create a 2 hour movie for AEBN Exclusive with all the funny shit that happend, for example: Girls losing their fake teeth while having sex, girls fall asleep during sex, girls fart, getting the giggles, falling down while stripping etc. I think it will be a good material to watch and then release it as a bonus DVD on my up coming release PORN STAR #3 starring Gia Paloma, Katie Morgan, Layla Jade, Maya Gates and Kelly Wells .
Oren
absynth
Member

absynth makes the heart grow fonder
434 Posts
8/06
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 2:10PM
That is seriously genius... It could really work if you get the right people to provide commentary. (Someone like Van Damage would be funny.)
T-Bone
Deactivated User

5 Posts
11/07
Posted - Nov 2 2007 : 6:55PM
I think the tiltes goes good for there company's Dead Fucks for a Dead Company.
7_and_a_quarter
Member

163 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 3 2007 : 9:39AM
Devinn, were you a MST3K fan?
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Nov 3 2007 : 1:32PM
I think Thomas Zupko did the same thing with The Lost Tapes. I remember Caroline Pierce being kind of pissed off because her scene where she plays a corpse wasn't suppose to be released or something.
HeyNow All-Star Supporter
Oblivious

Gold Star Hey!
5965 Posts
1/03
Posted - Nov 3 2007 : 2:21PM
If they have never seen the light of day, you might as well put them out. Talent and production (for the day of the shoot) have been paid anyhow. How much does it cost at this point?
Don't call it Dead Fucks though. Sounds deceased. Maybe a title like, "They Just Aren't That Into You". Since probably many of the girls are out of the business (maybe) you don't need to worry about offending current talent.
Or just edit them down so you can fit 15 on a disc, but be sure to promote it as "all new" material and not a comp.
Eli Cross
Member

What's the fun of getting old if you can't be dirty?
141 Posts
4/06
Posted - Nov 3 2007 : 5:29PM
Call it Born to be Mild, and make sure Page Turner is on the cover.
Only reason that girl wasn't the worst scene I've ever shot is that my career isn't over. Yet.
Edited by - Eli Cross on 11/3/2007 5:34:07 PM
 
bigfoot
Senior Member

1295 Posts
7/06
Posted - Nov 3 2007 : 6:16PM
If you do not know, "Stiff Competition" is the name of a classic 1984 feature by Caballero about the world BJ championships. The lead is the under-appreciated Gina Carrera and the other standouts are Cyndee Summers, Bridget Monet (great anal scene), Kitten Natividad(wow!!), Danielle, Patti Plenty, Susan Hart, Bunny Bleu, Kristara Barrington and Misty Regan.
It is a great "Golden Age of porn" film and definately worth checking out if you have not seen it yet.
Enjoy
BigBobxxx
Senior Member

2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Nov 3 2007 : 7:59PM
[Homer] Bridgette Monet [/Homer]
Jackstah
Member

531 Posts
3/07
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 10:34PM
paige turners done a good job with the spring thomas sister site.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 3:51AM
Regarding the girls who are referred to as "dead fucks", I dunno. Sometimes I think I'd rather watch a girl who is calm and relatively quiet until she actually has something to howl about. If it has to be fake in order to be "exciting", is it really exciting?
I see so many girls who jump to the moon and squeal and carry on when it's obvious they aren't even turned on. Would it really be so bad to have some natural scenes? Maybe if they didn't have to work so hard trying to convince us that it sends shivers of joy through them every time the guy touches them, they might actually be able to get off for real.
There are often subtle signs that are detectable (if you're watching) that she's getting turned on. And honestly, sometimes just watching them slowly emerge like that is far better than the fake, glass shattering yelps and screaming.
Edited by - randomprecision on 11/6/2007 3:52:54 AM
Lonborg
Member

114 Posts
1/03
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 3:54AM

Edited by - Lonborg on 11/6/2007 3:58:35 AM

Savoy All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Sucker for Sinners
1844 Posts
12/06
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 4:20PM
a big ol' fat +1 to RP.
As for the original question. I like Jackstah's suggestion. That way the girl can come redeem herself. IF she's still around and IF she's improved as a performer.
But I tend to pay attention to the evolution of porn starlets anyway. I like watching the girls tranform, lose all individuality and meld into some glittery mess of false eyelashes, hairspray and fake boobs. It's fun!



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