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abradarba
Member


89 Posts
2/04
Posted - May 3 2004 : 7:49PM
If DeluxePass is all original content as claimed, it's a stunning deal - I've heard around here that it's not, like AdultBouncer isn't. To me it looks like it's not exactly all original. What's the skinny? Seriously. Fer example - there are Jules Jordan movies on there, along with a ton of other stuff. Licensed? Ripped off? Anyway, if the vids are "converted from DVD," how can they be "original?"

Here is a quote from PornLiving: (www.pornliving.com - porn site reviews)
>>At first I assume that DP is little more than a web portal to virtual warehouses of porn, licensed from other sites and suppliers. After I’ve followed enough of the links out to pages covering everything from hentai to drugged abduction and panty sniffing (see the “chloroform goddess” page if that’s your bag), however, I’m convinced that DP’s claim to offering only 100% legal content converted from DVD “in house” is legit.<<

valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 3 2004 : 8:04PM
They say they buy the licenses to the content. It is from various studios like RLD and Zero Tolerance.

Here is another thread on the subject.

J.

abradarba
Member

89 Posts
2/04
Posted - May 3 2004 : 8:25PM
Dang it! And I (thought I) searched the topic, too. Anyway, nothing too definitive about legitimacy. The opinion seems pretty solid about AdultBouncer, though. Ripoff.

Samantha Stylles - noticed during my little search, what a babe. For the hell of it.


valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 3 2004 : 8:36PM
Well, I had an advantage because I knew it was a thread I had posted in recently. So I narrowed it down to only threads I've posted in, with the word "deluxe." I just knew what I was looking for.

That chick is a hottie. *Slurp*

*Mutt*
Deactivated User

752 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 3 2004 : 9:32PM

Deluxe Pass doesn't have a drop of exclusive content on it.

They also exploited every studio whose product is in that network of 1,000 sites including Redlight District, Zero Tolerance, Devils Films and others. I know how much those web licenses are worth - not much.

They are in New Jersey laughing their asses off at everybody rolling in millions of dollars.

I try to warn people, offer advice, suggest better ways but it usually falls on deaf ears.

Just as in the HIV outbreak it's an industry that really doesn't want to help itself.

I see some more exploitation going on with another major outfit.

Skeeter Kerkove please email me to discuss, i might be wrong about this and I need to talk to somebody whose content i see being used in a way I don't think it was intended to be.

ally@inforamp.net is my email

 
DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - May 3 2004 : 11:07PM
Mod Note:

*Mutt*

Do a little research. Skeeter's email address has been made public in his profile. Posting a message like that here there is probably less than a 50% chance that Skeeter will ever see it. An email is direct.

Thanks.

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - May 4 2004 : 4:18AM
Deluxepass is the biggest pirate out there. I noticed they steal from almost every company. I wish nobody would join their site because it's the people who join their site who are keeping these pirates in business.
John Pype
Member

I adore sluts
779 Posts
9/03
Posted - May 4 2004 : 4:34AM
I joined not knowing but stopped after 3 months.
Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - May 4 2004 : 10:17AM
Just a little background I thought you might be interested in. A few years ago I used to be a member of Adultbouncer and in those days they had a forum where everybody openly posted, both the webmasters and a few end users such as myself. During my membership period AB started getting hit by orders to remove copyright material and eventually ordered all AB sites to only feature material that was centrally provided (it seems sometime later that this material may also be of dubious legality but that is another issue). As I recall a one-time AB webmaster who was none too happy at this arrangement (I think he was french) decided to split and start his own rival to AB and a few of the previous AB sites moved over because they too wanted to continue touting their own (illegally made) dvd rips.

The point I'm making? Well, of all the pirates at AB the most overt ones went to make up the fledgling deluxepass. By rights then I think it would be fair to draw the conclusion that if AB still works on pretty dodgy ground then Deluxepass will be at least as bad.

SNP.

*Mutt*
Deactivated User

752 Posts
8/03
Posted - May 4 2004 : 11:06AM

Deluxe Pass was put in business by Adult Bouncer - provided the hosting, the programming, everything the same.

There is no difference between the two. There are others who have taken the same concept and more everday - the Adult Internet is a copycat business, when somebody is making big money the ideas get copied over and over.

My concern for the studios lessens every day, most are ignorant and at some point if you want to leave your car in the driveway with they keys in the ignition over and over, when some scumbag drives away with it it's hard to be feel sorry.

Jules Jordan is taking care of business, suing the ass off Adult Bouncer.

valjean4876
Member

953 Posts
3/04
Posted - May 4 2004 : 11:21AM
Good for Jules! This is not just stealing from production companies. It's stealing from everyone that is involved in creating the content . . . from the performer to the make-up artist.

It's important to me because I also create media that some think it's okay to steal. Just because it's with electrons instead of hacksaws, doesn't make it moral.

ReasonableMan
Member

Toronto
14 Posts
9/03
Posted - May 4 2004 : 2:06PM
I was sure they had licenses to the material. I know one of the best sites on DeluxePass, ClubHardball, had to remove Mike John and Eric Everhard flicks because the licenses had expired, and he did just that. Not much of a loss, since those guys make bad movies, but if you're interested, definitely check it out, there are probably 4-5 amazing sites on there, you can get tons of clips.

If you want all-original, try asstraffic.com, you can see Mandy Bright getting double analed and taking 3 facials.

Dante
Member

44 Posts
4/04
Posted - May 4 2004 : 3:30PM
I have noticed lots of other sites popping up that have downloadable movies. Are they all illegal or is just that the licenses are so cheap that anyone can get one?
Scott Kinney
xxximports.com

New Jersey
369 Posts
5/02
Posted - May 4 2004 : 3:35PM
It doesn't work with every site, but my test is
whether they offer DBM, Videorama or MMV titles for
download. I work with all three companies pretty closely, and they have never (ever!) licensed their content to
third parties for internet/download. In fact, it's specifically excluded from the licensing we do for distributing their titles in the US.

Scott Kinney
Diversified Video Associates
www.xxx-imports.com

Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14595 Posts
3/02
Posted - May 4 2004 : 3:48PM
Two questions you might consider:
1) Why would the company making these movies and selling them for X dollars on their own website and through distributors turn around and undercut their own business by selling cheap licenses to other web sites?
2) Why would a web site operator pay for a licensing fee without exclusivity? It isn't like bricks and mortar where you can license for your geographic area. If every Tom, Dick and Harry can set up a web site and buy the same licenses then how in the world can you figure out what a license is worth?

disclaimer: people have been known to make stupid business decisions, so the fact that web licensing looks like a losing proposition doesn't necessarily mean it isn't being done.

 
Mandi*
Pixies Emporium

Platinum Media - The Cure for Common Porn
21 Posts
1/04
Posted - May 4 2004 : 5:37PM
We know that both DeluxePass and AB started to purchased 75% of their content through a pirate in Canada about 18 months ago.

Mutt's makes some good points, but we need to turn a few things around. The Owners of DeluxePass Own A large Hosting Company in New Jersey and were Hosting Several Big sites . Adult Bouncer, Teen-School.com, Teen-High.com and greatsexu. Several years ago, they decided they should "get into" the business and had their DeluxePass front end designed. The content at that time came right off the very sites they were hosting along with several video websites across the net. Most of the offenders were the people building thier sites under the DP unbrella. DP themselves did not steal content like AB did. This, of course, was when the legal issues came to bare with both AB and DP and so they came up with this guy in Canada. He "Claimed" he had the rights to produce and distribute every movie made. That's the line they started "selling" people until the lawyers got involved again.

It's the same with most of these "Movie" sites .. all they do is rent or buy the movie, rip it into mpg or wmv format and say they have a license for it. Funny thing is the studios and production companies knew of no such deal.

btw . on a Personal Note ... we know this because we were one of the companies who went after AB when they were using our material two years ago. We also Know that DP has been working on getting their content "Act" together, but with as many sites as they now have, I feel they are going to have a hard time keeping people on the legal "track"


Edited by - Mandi* on 5/4/2004 5:43:08 PM

Scott Kinney
xxximports.com

New Jersey
369 Posts
5/02
Posted - May 4 2004 : 7:02PM
....Does the surname begin with a "V"?

Scott Kinney
Diversified Video Associates
www.xxx-imports.com




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