During Jewel De'Nyle and Steve Holmes scene, Jewel squats over Steve's mouth and proceeds to piss in to his mouth. We don't actually see the scene, it cuts to black during the pee scene.
Will we ever see it? Or is it behind some paid membership website?
If we can't see it, why not? There's stuff out there on the internet that's way worse than a piss scene....
Here in Europe we have no problems on pissing in porn movies (i must say in continental Europe) in most part of our countries if i can find that movie I'll rent and check out , that scene could be uncensored here
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 2/5/2006 6:45:22 AM
This thread brings up a question for me about the differences between what you see in US videos and what shows up in uncut versions of European videos. Can anyone share what the rules are? I could do a search but figure somebody out there knows and others probably are interested as well.
well i don't really know because of course i rarely buy US versions and if so I obviously don't buy or rent the same movie, but i can say that in France, Italy, Holland there are almost no laws about what's obscene or what's not the only thing really forbidden is kiddyporn even bestiality is legal or i may say was cause something happened in holland on this matter but I'm not sure of what and i don't know if it's still allowed or not . In Belgium AFAIK bestiality is forbidden. Okthis is kinda off topic but i was tryng to make clear that here almost everything can be done and sold
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 2/5/2006 8:47:18 AM
A question in Hustler's Barely Legal #1 there's a scene with Anastasia Blue pissing before getting fucked I believe that scene might be censored in US and UK releases.
Even Cicciolina did a lot of pissing scenes some times on guys she alaways said she loved it.
Yes, the movie is I LOVE IT ROUGH #1. It was the first release from Platinum X.
Here is the link: http://www.platinumxpictures.com/content/movie/9/2/1/
The decision was made in January 2003 not to include the pissing to avoid scaring away distributors. It was the right thing to do.
I edited this movie and chose to keep the audio and black out the video to at least give the viewer insight into what was happening. If I was willing to take a risk, I would have run it in its entirety.
There is only one version of this movie sold. There is no european version.
Sorry to disapoint some but it's more out of fear of prosecution than anything else. As a relatively new comapany, we just want to establish relationships with distributors that are mutually beneficial.
I can remember seeing a backcover where the opposite was taking place. De'Nyle's face was pressed against a toilet. Can't remember which movie that was though. The cover primarily black, with green tinted pictures and writings. If anyone happens to know this one, do tell.
But is there a clip of it somewhere? Is it behind the PXP paysite? I really do want to see it. Please tell me if I'm wasting my time so I don't think about it.
I have seen pissing scenes in the US but normally it is the girl all by herself or a squirting scene. So this gets back to my question what are the rules in the US? Sounds like anything goes in Euro films. Jewel were those two scenes shot here or in Europe and is it legal to distribute scenes in the US regardless of where shot with people pissing on one another? What about fisting .... is the 4-finger limit in place in the US? Who makes these rules, is there a reference link on them?
Sybian: I know it used to be up in the members section but I believe it was taken down. Sorry about this. It's not really a big deal, really, and there are other companies that cater more towards this.
Platinum X is not a great source of piss drinking footage.
I saw this film and I have to say I was glad that it didn't show the actual drinking. I'm just not a fan of people being peed on. To me it's not a sexual act, and has a connotation of degradation (even if those involved want it done to them).
You're missing the point. It's not a pissing scene. The peeing is one integral segment in the sexual dynamic between Jewel and Steve. You are missing out on a whole lot of other good stuff.
It was the first release out the door from Platinum X. I take great pride in it as it was the first project for the company as well as the first one put out under Brandon Iron Productions. I produced, directed, and edited it.
You have a money back guarantee with me. If you don't feel you got your money's worth after renting it, write me at brandoniron_99@yahoo.com and I'll make things right.
There are technically no rules as to what can be in a video (as long as you have consenting adults). The problem is that some states have tougher obscenity laws than others. So you can have a video with pissing and all of that, but it's risky to sell it.
In Europe it varies from country to country. I am pretty sure Germany has pretty tough censorship laws on certain things. I think I was told that if they are going to sell a movie there they have to cut out stuff like threesomes and the like. I know the German version of Les Vampyres is only like 53 minutes... so... who knows.
Thank you for giving me the straight scoop, Brandon. I'm not a piss fetish fanatic, it's just that it was suggested a long time ago that it might eventually be on paid membership site and I just wanted to know if it was being shown somewhere.
I didn't mean to have this thread be used as a discussion about the legalities of having a urine-drinking scene in adult videos. It was just a simple question about finding a specific scene.
Tell you what. I will do my level best to get an internet deal going this year. Priority one will be to get that clip up so no one will ever have reason to be pissed off. That joke was as weak as the stream that came out of Jewel's urethra after about 15 seconds.....
No threesomes? You must be watching different German porn then I do. As far as sex goes, in Germany everything except kids is legal. Which movie called Les Vampyres do you mean? There are several.
Ahem This is not the point I wanted to rent that movie to verify if there were a difference between European and American releases , you said they're identical so I don't need to rent it to know , but obviously I'll rent or buy some other movie or even the same one, but not for that reason.
I've read a transcript of a trial and I'm pretty convinced that child, animal and excessive-violence porn are not allowed here.
Threesomes are not allowed? Sometimes I have the impressions that people think we are living in the stone age and not in 2006.
RubyRed , I don't know which Vampire movie you mean, but for example the movie "Les Avaleuse" has 21 versions and when you look at the imdb link, the running time for the German version is the longest.
I've just seen both scenes. Forced Entry was a little to rough to my liking, but fairly convincing. Very good acting from De'Nyle. But the Rocco scene in the bathroom... that shit cracked me up! I haven't laughed that hard in a very long time. I didn't see any pissing though.
Then again there was this big gap between outside on the red stairs, and inside on the staircase. De'Nyle made a reference to Rocco wanting to piss on her as the proceeded to the bathroom. Maybe I got my hands on the edited version?
I shot camera for the scene and there is a reason for the gap from the stairs to the bathroom. Let's just say sometimes accidents happen and you don't make it to the bathroom in time.
There definitely was some problem with threesomes selling in Germany. I absolutely remember this to be the case, though, this may have changed in the past 4 years, or maybe the Americans said "Fuck it." Also, this may have had to do with the cable/vod side of sales in Germany.
But, yes, dicknjane, there are not rules in American porn... other than all performers being 18 or older at time of production, absolutely no children in the videos even in non-sex, and of course there's Hustler's long list of rules, which I've recently heard now includes no use of the word, "bitch." Other than this, for the XXX American market... it's all still goes back to Miller vs. California.... where they tried to define the word "obscene." And if something is obscene, it is thus illegal. Of course, "obscene" differs greatly from state to state, city to city, person to person, juror to juror... see the problem? Some companies and directors are willing to take the risks more than others. But, God forbid you have an 18 year old on the cover, with pig-tails, with the underdeveloped body of a 12 year old, crouching under a horses cock, and the video is really rough and ever scene is almost a rape scene against the girl, and you throw some piss and shit in the mix.... yeah, that would be a risk, that maybe some hungry prosecutor may get 'em to say is obscene and thus against "the rules." The biggest risks are... underage depictions, rape (hence usually the sex will not begin in a scene until the girl is untied in a bondage scene let's say), shit, bestiality, and piss joined this status not all that long ago.
This was not a PISS ON scene..was showed in BTS footage. In the Voyeur #21-Evil Angel-2002 (John Leslie directing) Scene with August Night -in the middle of the scene she had to pee (John Leslie was fussing "I told you to go before"). She hurried off to pee, and the male & director/camera followed her to the bathroom. She was sitting on the toilet sucking the male's dick while the camera focused between her legs as she peed. This was obviously spontaneous (and funny.)
The reason I stated what I did about threesomes in Germany is because someone I know who works in an adult company said that when they try to sell a movie over there they have to remove threesome scenes.
Les Vampyres the movie from James Avalon. It's with Ava Vincent. The version I saw there was 53 minutes long. The american version is a good 90 or some minutes, maybe longer.
I work in an adult company and we do lots of business with Germany, either buying from them or selling to them and I never heard of a legal problem with threesomes. I think it must be the personal preferences of some company, because we definitely did not cut out any threesomes from the movies we sold to Germany.
I don't know the German Les Vampyres, was it the softcore version maybe? The original version on NTSC is available in Europe at regular length.
Posted - Feb 5 2006 : 4:45AM
