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bigpussy
Member

250 Posts
9/03
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 12:11PM
I went to the www.peternorth.com site and it was pop-up fuckin' hell. Then my virus alert pops up for the stinky-trojan horse virus.

I saw the website on the cover of a recent video. I won't even tell you what video because there should be sanctions for this kind of bullshit. I won't promote or recommend anything by a company that operates like this.

I'm suprised that North would stoop to this. I'm sure he is unaware, but stars that allow their names to be used in this way are still just as guilty as the offenders. Ignorance is not a defense.

Just to warn anyone who wants to check out any of North's websites, they probably have cooties.

Topic Moved by - MLyons on Feb 6 2004

Slim Jim
Member

18 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 2:25PM
A while back the same thing happened to me at a West Coast site. What is it with porn sites and trojan horse viruses? Thank god for Nortons.
Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 2:49PM
I think you have adware/spyware on your computer. I just went to www.peternorth.com, and I only got one pop-up window ("Peter's Picks") and no exit pop-ups. I even undid the immunizations that SpyBot puts in place to block bad products. After I closed IE, I ran a scan with SpyBot fully updated and it came back clean. No warnings from my anti-virus software either.

- Saki [faqs]

bigpussy
Member

250 Posts
9/03
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 3:13PM
This never came up before I went there. Then all hell broke loose. Pop-ups out the ass. I have a popup-blocker but it evidently couldn't handle this garbage. It was my anti-virus that caught it.

Wether it is the site or an ad-server it links to, the result was a very unpleasant surfing experience.

One other thing - I don't have a phone line hooked up to my computer. If I did, does this trojan dial up 900's or something and hope I don't check my phone bill?

Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 3:27PM
I think you're misunderstanding... Along the way you may have picked up some adware (that won't generally trigger your antivirus software). Then, when you go to some "innocent" site, the adware detects where you are (usually thru keywords such as "Peter North"), and then throws up a slew of pop-ups (some of which may include attempts to install dialers).

Net result: user thinks that the "innocent" site is the one that's pop-up or virus hell, when it's really the adware program that installed itself prior to your visit to the "innocent" site. These hidden programs are increasingly being designed to bypass pop-up blocker protection.

I would suggest downloading the free tools SpyBot and Ad-Aware, updating both with the latest definitions (both have a "check for updates" option), then scanning your system. I'm willing to bet money that you're not clean...there's no reason why I can go there and not get the same result unless you've got adware on your computer. I don't have any pop-up blocker software on my computer.

While you're at it, be sure to visit Windows Update and make sure all of the critical updates are applied. Microsoft just released a fix to a potentially serious flaw in Internet Explorer 6 last week.


- Saki [faqs]

 
DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 5:39PM
bigpussy,

I just went to the site, and same as Saki the only pop-up was "Peter's Picks". No pop-ups on exit.

The Ad-aware and Spybot Saki recommended and put links to really does work, and should solve your problem. Adware is malicious and makes it look like a site has pop-ups when in fact it doesn't.

I also don't have a pop-up blocker installed.

DenverDon

GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 6:52PM
See my recommendations in this thread: ad-aware 6.0 ~ GS
bigpussy
Member

250 Posts
9/03
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 8:32PM
thanks guys.

I have adware and spy block already. I just ran a scan and clean. hopfully that kills it. But I've thought that in the past and here I am again, this time blaming it on Peter.

That shit is pretty malicious. Especially the dialers. Like I asked before - do the dialer programs dial up 900 numbers and try to bill you for the access charges? I've never been hooked by one. But I've been alerted by my anti-virus that it's present.

Appreciate the advice.

doug
Member

buckeye az
19 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 6 2004 : 9:36PM
I just bought a emac because i was worried about viruses ect. and had heard that the mac's were pretty safe from such things is that true.

doug

GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 2:54AM
bigpussy: There are probably at least a hundred different dialers. Some are innocuous while others are exceptionally malicious. My cousin got hit by one picked up off of a free porn .AVI site (now no longer in existence) which dialed into a number down in the Caribbean and granted permission for third-party long distance calls to be charged to his number. He never even knew the dialer had been installed on his system. The first telephone bill after its installation was over $3K! Other do as you suspected: dial 900 or similar numbers, charging the expense to your home phone. Regardless, I consider ALL dialers to be unacceptable on my computer.

doug: Yes, Apple/Mac/OS9/OS-X computers are less prone to viruses but NOT because they are immune. They aren't. There are gaping holes in Apple's OS comparable to those in Windows; however, they are much less publicized and, because the Apple computers are much less popular and because Microsoft's hubris makes it an inviting target, Apple often gets passed over by the virus authors. Count yourself lucky. Regardless, you should have anti-virus software, anti-adware software and, if you are attached to the internet via a broadband connection, a firewall -- preferably a hardware based one like those from US Robotics or Netgear.

~ GaySatyr

doug
Member

buckeye az
19 Posts
2/04
Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 7:49PM
gaysatyr
thanks for the reply, do you or anyone know a place i could download some virus shareware until i can get into town to buy some.

doug

Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 8:46PM
You can download a 15 day free trial version of Norton Anti-Virus for Mac from Symantec. You can also download a full copy at the same site. If you have any version of anti-virus software, you can get a $30 rebate on NAV.
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Feb 11 2004 : 10:52AM
I hate to nitpick otherwise great advice, but symantec stuff is sometimes marginally less invasive and annoying than what it's supposed to prevent. It works, but it's heinously bloated, and wants to know a lot about you, and slows your computer down more than it should

There are free antivirus programs out there, my favorite being http://www.free-av.com

it's got a nice small footprint, updates come out weekly, does everything norton does, at around 5mb.

In the future, it's easier to not download high-risk stuff than deal with it on your HD, and importantly, disable DCOM(useless to 99.99% of people) and a security risk and get a decent firewall---kerio is free and functional, zonealarm is really worth the cash, if only to run whois checks on the people checking your comp. out

cobalt60
Knuckle Dragger

2046 Posts
2/03
Posted - Feb 11 2004 : 11:06AM
AVG is another free (as in beer) anti-virus package that I've run myself and installed for many a cheapskate with excellent results.



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