The Major Story of the morning appears to be about Jenna Jameson's remarks as she gave Stormy Daniels the Crossover Award (named for Jenna) at last night's AVN Awards Show. Jenna said she will "no longer be spreading my legs" for the industry anymore. Many in the audience booed. Stormy then said to the audience she would continue to spread her legs for the biz, and was applauded. I don't know if Jenna was trying to be disrespectful to the performers or the industry--or just saying that she's moving on. What do others think about Jenna's remarks? The audience's reaction? Performers are encouraged to post their comments.
Sadly I am no performer, but it sounds neutral to me. She quits. And she didnt spread her legs "for the industry", but for herself. Or her account, to be more precise. I doesnt sound so negative. If I would hate the porn industry, I would say very unfriendly words.
A remark like that seems to summarize what the awards show is all about - almost all posturing. And the awards are mostly a joke as well. The convention is where it's at, as far as I'm concerned. Last year, Amy Ried cleaned up at the awards show, and her attitude sucked. I'll bet there's at least one "bad actor" every year. I couldn't care less.
I was not at the Awards Show, but based on what I have read I am not sure what Jenna was trying to say. But, Stormy had the perfect answer! More power to Stormy and continued success in all that you do (either X rated or Mainstream). The Adult Industry could use a lot more Stormy's. Den
Funny you mention that about Amy. I just watched the 07 awards dvd. God was she awful. I know public speaking isn't everyone's specialty, but she was just exceptionally dull. Somebody really needs to get that girl a personality.
Before that she said "This industry has grown so much" then she tried to say that she was mostly responsible for moving porn into mainstream I'm sure Ron Jeremy, Nina Hartley, & Randy West were all really impressed w that
Oh my gosh . . . I attended the AVN Awards last night and felt that Jenna's remarks were inappropriate for that setting. First she seemed hurt and defensive regarding her weight loss or "crazy" behavior. Then she hinted at the fact that porn is more acceptable today thanks to her. And finally she claimed she wasn't done with the industry but "wouldn't be spreading her legs for anyone in this room ever again." At that moment, industry members were pretty much left puzzled, and the audience booed. I'm certain many female performers were at least mildly hurt by her final comment. The show is all about capitalizing on the fantasy that adult performers are oversexed and love their work. Award presenters flirt and tease each other and seem ready to hop in bed right there on stage. How unfortunate that she chose such vulgarity when she should have instead thanked everyone in that room for giving her the opportunity for a rather prosperous career.
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Narcissus Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 4:52PM
this is why Jenna made a better porn star than a comedian. sounds like she was trying to make a self-deprecating joke and bombed. that's it.
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 6:08PM
I would suggest she try to spread her mouth around a cheeseburger or some fried chicken. If not the next convention she will be the guest of honor for will be the American Society of Orthopedic Surgery.
absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 9:09PM
I used to love Jenna back in her Wicked days (even belonged to her "official" fan club), but honestly, outside of a couple of Vivid/Club Jenna movies she did, I damn near forgot that she wasn't already retired...
I would just give Jenna some advice...not that she cares. Tact...look it up. While you are at it look up: Professionalism, Appreciation, Overcoming Anorexia, Gravitas, Biting The Hand That Feeds You, The Superbowl Shuffle and Fatburger Locations.
absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 2:31AM
She left her mark, but it's not like the industry is going to crumble with her departure... Like I said, I was once a HUGE fan, but she really ceased to be relevant to me after she left Wicked. Sure, a few of the Club Jenna movies were hot, but I always felt like she was just going through the motions in her scenes, at least compared to her time as a Wicked girl. Once someone gets to the top, they usually lose that fire and desire that got them there... Guess that's just the nature of the beast.
Well, there's been some pretty nasty things said about her looks in the past few years. I've read some things that were just terrible that I wouldn't say to any women. Maybe she was just lashing out. I dunno.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04
Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 3:38AM
If you've seen any pictures of her over the last few years you would know why there were some less than flattering things said about her. If anything she should have dissed herself.
That wasn't a very smart thing to say at the biggest adult industry event of the year. But really, does anyone WANT to watch her spread her legs anymore? I watched the Jenna Jameson True Hollywood Story out of curiosity. So blatant in her attempts to manipulate emotion. Her crocodile tears. Talking like a bad tabloid writer. Real people don't talk like that. Just those that have been writing their autobiography in their head their whole life. Peculiar.
Sydnee Steele, Savanna Samson or None. 275 Posts 12/05
Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 8:44AM
This is indeed a case of 'foot inserted-to-mouth.' Based on what I THINK I know about porns' two brightest stars of the 90's the other being Chasey Lain. It makes me sad. Here are two women who could of, should have, and perhaps do have it all; but nonetheless appear to be very unhappy. Just two more porn tragedies who are disintegrating in the most agonizing fashion right in front of our very eyes.
I dont like it, when porn stars earn big $$$ and later say: "Thank God, its over". Quite a few porn stars did that in Germany ( ok, they didnt earned big bucks there ) and after they quitted, they badmouthed the porn industry. Not the german one, I could understand this, but the whole porn genre. This is lousy and idiotic. But again, Jennas remark doesnt sound soooo negative. I never understood the hype around here, but she has helped, that porn is more accepted by the mainstream media now. She is a sort of pop icon now. And some video dealers in Germany told me, that people asked for her movies, who never rented porn before.
I never got this Jenna thing, at all! She was just not all that to me. But, to each its own, but when the bigger the women become in this industry the WORST they become!! So, when I saw recent photos of her with all that Body Shop work on the FACE and BODE....just did me in totally. Why she matters anymore is beyond me. I hate it when these girls go and blast the industry. Say good bye Jenna and go away.
+1 Tricia -- she didn't seem like she was joking to me, either. We had a discussion in the airport about it -- that it was an odd-phrase to use to announce your retirement -- that it seemed really antagonistic... "Not going to spread my legs for this industry" really seems to have an underlying "you've fucked me long enough" (in both literal and figurative fashions.) Also, it seemed a bit strange since she really seems to have been retired from performing for a few years now, only releasing movies that were shot long ago (which lead us to comment about the sad state of affairs that Janine got a "supporting" actress nod in a movie that had her name in the title "Janine loves Jenna" -- but we concluded that since Janine was doing the loving, she was supporting Jenna...) (... of course the phrasing does leave room for a BJOnly Jenna comeback at any time. :-)
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Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 2:42PM
Jeff- yea, she seemed to pause and glare at the people in the room for maximum effect.
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Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 3:08PM
here's the link on youtube.com http://youtube.com/watch?v=QgM1z-nB5Ok she does seem to pause and be talking to a certain individuals or individuals. perhaps press. Us Weekly. someone really hurt her and upset her. sounds like she was lashing back at them. i think when someone reaches such superstardom they just become a caricature of themselves. almost cartoon-ish. she's starting to look & sound like a transsexual. i'm not even saying that to be mean. it's my obvervation. perhaps it's the "Michael Jackson Syndrome" (MJS).
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Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 6:24PM
Lets face it y'all if you saw and heard it its obvious that drugs are bad mmmmm'kay....I mean she didn't pause for effect, her entire screed was full of incoherent unconnected ramblings. Are you guys reall shocked to see that in real life she is as dumb as a box of rocks? Everyone propped her up all these years from Joy King to Jay and now she is bitter No big deal really I mean who wants to watch her fuck now...I've seen better faces on a bottle of rat poison.
absynth makes the heart grow fonder 434 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 7:12PM
I make it a habit not to rag on people, but the combination of drugs, excessive plastic surgery, and self loathing, do not seem to be the road less traveled by in porn community... Though I suppose the two formers wouldn't exist without the latter.
I’ll preface this by saying I am not a fan, nor was ever really a fan of Jenna Jameson. I wasn’t at the awards (which I never take much stock in) but I tried to read as many sites and opinions on this “issue” I could. And the forgone conclusion seems to be she wasn’t kidding at all and it seemed to piss everyone off. That being said, I HATE when people forget where they come from and secondly, NEVER EVER bite the hand that feeds you because karma is a bitch.
Upon black stallions, we trample your crown of thorns... 64 Posts 1/08
Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 8:48PM
haha if Jenna opened her legs it would sound like a rusty cemetery gate. You know if she had opened her butt cheeks she might have gone alot farther. What I can't grasp is that she won't put anything up her butt but, she puts everyting up her nose?!?! I think penis is alot better than house hold chemicals.
It seemed like a classless thing to say at an awards show but that's what the porn biz gets for helping to create the "beast" in the first place. "Oh Jenna is so great..." "I want to pattern my career after Jenna's.." "Jenna's done so much for the industry..." "Oh Jenna deserves awards for her performances..." The industry just bowed to and coddled a girl who just had a string of lucky breaks and was lucky enough to captitalize on them. If she had to do it all over again she'd never pull it off because so much of her succcesss was due to luck and good timimg. After all that ass-kissing it all went to her head and she feels it's okay to talk down to the audience and the business like that. And in the end it really doesn't matter that she's leaving or not, the biz will be just fine without her. She'll suffer for it far more than the business ever will.
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Narcissus Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 14 2008 : 9:30PM
ouch. well, i generally just took it as common knowledge that Jenna was never behind her own success. as far as i knew Jay was the brains of the operation. i don't think everyone should be throwing rocks at Jenna, though. she's obviously hurting and kinda lost right now. for whatever reasons, be it drugs or whatever. so, she's spent alot of years with her little nose to the grindstone and has managed to hold it together for the most part. it was just a matter of time before she cracked. i say she needs everyone's support more now than ever.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 15 2008 : 2:14AM
I never cared for her too much, but I don't understand this statement, she is clearly the biggest porn star ever, bigger than even Linda Lovelace or Marilyn Chambers, who were never given the level of mainstream legitimacy that JJ enjoyed for a time.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 15 2008 : 2:17AM
I never knew the porn industry was composed of such wilting flowers, this is the same awards show that recognized Ass Blasting Felching Anal Whores (no joke, look it up), so I don't think class comes into it.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04
Posted - Jan 15 2008 : 3:03AM
I'd like to see Chelsea Handler make some porn. When Kelly Madison was the guest she asked Chelsea if she'd like to make some for her website. Chelsea demurely declined.
she is so funny, she said "what else is she going to talk about, she is a porn star who announced her retirement at a porn convention, but refuses to talk about porn" she wants to break into main stream media, when will I break into main stream media? I about peed my pants
The funny thing that just occurred to me after reading all these comments is people say that don’t like Jenna and they don’t need her in the industry or whatever. But she still remains one of the biggest topics on the porn websites because of her comments at AVN. For better or worse, love her or hate her, the industry and fans to still clamor to whatever Jenna does or says. What’s that saying – Any press is good press….
Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00
Posted - Jan 15 2008 : 2:20PM
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with that statement. I've never been of the opinion that as long as people are talking about you, it doesn't matter if the things they're saying are good or bad.