though you rarely see the inside of the hole in softcore. by softcore are we talkin cable movies? Playboy?
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| DGF Member 122 Posts 1/00 |  Posted - Jan 23 2000 : 12:41AMOk, I've been wondering for a long time what's the difference between softcore and hardcore. Is there any strict definition? What do you think? [Link] |
| Janitor Retired Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Jan 23 2000 : 1:11AM though you rarely see the inside of the hole in softcore. by softcore are we talkin cable movies? Playboy? [Link] |
| Saki At-Large 2087 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Jan 23 2000 : 1:34AM Saki ------------------ [url=455144]My Adult DVD List</A (Updated 1/20/00) | [url=465501]My Adult DVD Reviews</A [Link] |
| DVDBing Member Chicago 31 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jan 23 2000 : 9:23AM Playboy softcore shows everything on women, except in the genital reason no labias. On men they only occassionally show penises, and then only limp. Penthouse softcore shows everything on women including labias and fondling. On men they show penises, and occasionally they are erect. Night Vision and all the other lesser known softcore fall somewhere inbetween. The one constant is they never show penetration. Now all of this is how the videos are "intended." Occassionally you might notice a hard dick in a Playboy film, and even some penetration in a Penthouse video, but this was never their intention. Well, at least in the Playboy video we can be sure it was never intended.  Penthouse is always pushing the envelope.------------------ Bing!! [url=466028]My Adult DVD List</A (updated 1/16/00) [Link] |
| friendly DVD collector Member NYC 83 Posts 12/99 | Posted - Jan 23 2000 : 9:36AM I agree that penetration is the biggest difference between soft and hardcore porn. My question is are the people in soft porn really having sex, or are they just acting? - FDC [Link] |
| DVDBing Member Chicago 31 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jan 23 2000 : 9:52AM Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. Depends on what you are watching and the circumstances. Some "softcore" is just hardcore with all the penetration shots edited out. Quite obviously in those cases they are having sex. Some softcore is just simulated. Get one or two of the Penthouse Behind the Scenes tapes and you will see how it is done. The chicks are on the top acting with all their gusto like they are climaxing. Then when the camera stops rolling she climbs down and you see the guy is limp and has been all along. Then you have the mainstream. Some hard-R films accidentally expose the fact the actors were actually having sex, but you have to look hard to see it. I remember distinctly in one of Shannon Tweed's hard-R flicks that it was clear she was being penetrated. ------------------ Bing!! [url=466028]My Adult DVD List</A (updated 1/16/00) [This message has been edited by DVDBing (edited January 23, 2000).] [Link] |
| DGF Member 122 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jan 23 2000 : 11:25PM Now for those of you that would say "pentration" the problem is would say a lesbian scene with very explicit oral but no dildos not be hardcore then? Would a straight scene where a woman gives a man a blowjob not be hardcore either? I think both of these could hardly be considered softcore. Do you think there's any better a definition than "penetration"? [Link] |
| zaxx Member Great White North 134 Posts 12/99 | Posted - Jan 24 2000 : 5:20AM [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Jan 24 2000 : 5:53AM The FCC has a list of words you can't say on TV. They most likely also have very conscise guidelines about what can and cannot be shown at various points during the day's programming. How does this apply to home video sales and rentals? Got me. I assume this is where state or local governments get involved. I don't think there is a legal definition of softcore, just a set of guidelines for acceptability within each layer of governmental control. But please don't take my word on it. I wonder if AVN would have some insight? [This message has been edited by Drew Black (edited January 24, 2000).] [Link] |
| DGF Member 122 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jan 24 2000 : 9:06AM I would think that the "X" rating would be softcore and "XXX" hardcore. Though I'm not sure. Drew Black: Yes the FCC can only rule if it's a broadcast medium like TV or satellite. But not other mediums like cable or video. Regarding video sales that's beyond the scope of the federal government. I believe the supreme court ruled that if something is "obscene" by local standards, then it may be regulated by the local authorities. So "obscenity" (whatever that is) is not considered protected under "free speech". So that would be up to the locals here. The radio spectrum is considered owned by the federal government and that is why the FCC can set guidelines on that but not videos, it has nothing to do with it being a "public" medium. A city can allow nudity in the streets if it so chooses and the federal government can't do anything about it. This is the important principle of separation of powers between the states and the federal government that is being eroded more and more. Recently I heard of the Presidency giving economic incentives to TV stations that promoted an "anti-drug message" and the end result was de-facto censorship where scripts were submitted for review to the President's minions to see if they had an "anti-drug message". [Link] |
| DVDBing Member Chicago 31 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jan 24 2000 : 10:08AM What I do remember is that the MPCC is not so much concerned with penetration as they are with contact with genitals, whether it be with face, hands, whatever. "Penetration" is more of a bellweather between softcore and hardcore for the studios and the consumers. The MPCC also does take into consideration whether the shot of the nude is a close-up or at a distance. It is also worth noting -- That there is no such thing as an "XXX" rating. That was a marketing ploy created by the porn industry. The vast, vast majority of adult films are never submitted for a rating. The studios just go ahead and slap a "XXX" on them, or market then as "Unrated" (ie. Penthouse and Playboy). ------------------ Bing!! [url=466028]My Adult DVD List</A (updated 1/16/00) [Link] |
| zaxx Member Great White North 134 Posts 12/99 | Posted - Jan 24 2000 : 12:13PM [Link] |
| yerbud Member 7 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jan 24 2000 : 12:54PM Kinda pricey at $24.99 per month, but the channel is unedited for content. I don't currently subscribe, but the movies seem pretty recent. (for example, Kelly the Coed is currently playing) [Link] |
| Drew Black broken crankshaft 8009 Posts 9/99 | Posted - Jan 24 2000 : 1:01PM Are the videos that are aired the full-length unedited versions? I know a lot of transfers to DVD seem to be much shorter than the original video releases. [Link] |
| A Non Emus New Member 3 Posts 11/99 | Posted - Jan 24 2000 : 6:32PM Could someone recommend any soft core movies, or movies with lots of skin like "Showgirls" and "Perils of Gwendolyn". Recently I got "Undercover" and liked it. [Link] |
| yerbud Member 7 Posts 1/00 | Posted - Jan 25 2000 : 4:13AM You can get more info, schedules, etc. here: [url=467779]http://www.xtc-com.com/Tube/extasy/default.htm</A [Link] |
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