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Victor Demayo
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Posted - Apr 29 2006 : 10:05AM
I'm interested in directing or creating an adult film and was wondering if there are any guides available online or if there are any popular books on the subject that are informative or if anyone here can provide some feedback on a few questions I have.

The basic questions I currently have are:

Legal Preparation
1. What are the main legal issues I must consider? (besides the legal documentation that all actors are consenting adults 18+)

Acting costs
2. Where do you go to find talent and what are the average rates per scene for male and female stars?

Distribution
3. What are the pros and cons of going to an independent distributor and launching your own Adult Film Studio versus trying to get a larger well-established studio to market and distribute your work?

Staying Anonymous
4. How anonymous is the overall process for a director/producer?

Discussion Forums
5. Are there currently any message boards or forums on the internet for adult film makers?

Retaliation
6. How often does retaliation occur from people associated with actors or actresses in an adult film such as (friends, family members, pimps, lawyers, etc.) Assuming the film does gross a healthy profit and I only pay a star around $1k, what is to prohibit retaliation in some form for more money? Also what about retalation in the form of wanting the scene pulled from circulation altogether? How do you avoid retaliation and how common is it in this industry?

Lawsuits
7. Is it possible to make a simple vaginal/anal film with consenting adults, have all the documentation legally signed, and still get sued by your state or federal government or sued by your own actors/actresses?

All feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Edited by - victor demayo on Apr 30 2006

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Victor Demayo
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4/06
Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 12:22PM
Thank you for the response. I did read that post previously and it didn't really answer my questions and was why I created this thread.

I've been a member on this forum a few times in the past and have contributed but lost my password.

I am seriously considering directing a porn film. I have watched 100s of adult films and am an avid renter. I'd like to get into making adult films not for the money specifically, but because I think I can do it better, as arrogant as that may sound. I think if I am right and can do it better than a lot of whats out there, the money may follow. Either way I'll be doing what I think comes easy to me.

There is a lot of great porn out there, but there is also a lot of porn that is the same. With bad camera angles, bad directing, bad scripts, and boring dry sex. I'd like to change that and see what I can do differently. What's bothered me is how people have come on this website for a very long time and voiced what they like and don't like and you never see a change. This is by far the most active and knowledgable community on the web with some of the biggest pornstars visiting it and contributing, yet things seem to stay the same.

So I'd like to tap into that niche area where the real buyers actually start getting what they want. Obviously I could go to a lawyer and ask him about it, but he's not going to tell me where to get talent. Or how prevelant retaliation is or what a cum swap is going for nowadays.

So I thought I'd come here and genuinely ask. I personally think there should be a forum section here for developers of porn. Then have all the wannabes like me, post all their stuff in there out of the way of the general porn talk. Because I don't seem to be getting any responses here over a thread that talks about double anal scenes or watersports. ha

But that's fair enough. I've searched the web and I haven't been fortunate to find any real good info yet. But I'll keep trying.

Thank you.

Edited by - victor demayo on 4/30/2006 12:25:37 PM

RandomPrecision
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 2:17PM
I'm just another fan so this advice is only worth what you're paying for it....and also, I have no special insight into the business.

However....it could just be that you rarely ever see a change, even though there are plenty of complaints and suggestions, because making porn just might not be as easy as it looks...or seems.

By all means, if you think you can create a porn revolution, go right ahead and try. I just think porn revolutions would be much more frequent if it were as easy as you seem to think. There are many very talented people working in porn (in various aspects of it). I'm sure there will be many improvements and changes in the future but I think it's quite possible that, for the moment, if things could be changed, someone would change them. There's usually a reason why things don't change.....and it's usually a pretty good one when you consider everything that's involved.

Mr. Hollywood
Member

LA
14 Posts
3/06
Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 2:52PM
I have never made a porn, nor do I ever plan on making one. I am however a filmmaker, living in LA, who enjoys watching porn. Since there are many similarities between making a porn flick and a "normal" film, I will try to help you out a bit here.

1) Legal Preparation - Don't worry about legal prep now. You should not be doing it. Get a lawyer. Incorporate your business (to protect yourself from law suits, etc.) Get an accountant as well. A tax id, bank accounts, etc. etc. You should not be thinking about making a film before you consider the development of your new company. There will be start up costs, pay it. Pay it all. Best money you will ever spend will be on legal and financial advice.

2) acting costs - Besides the cost of talent (which seems to be somewhere between $1000-$4000 per female actor depending on what they do.) You will also need to factor, Makeup, Hair, Wardrobe, Craft Services and Catering. Toys, Lube, Condoms, Clean up- Towels, etc.

3) Distribution - Good luck... But if you make something with good production values your chances will be better. If you try to do it on your own, light, shoot, makeup, in a motel room.. Your screwed !

4) Staying Anonymous - NEVER... The world is too small. If you don't want to be known, or are trying to keep it secret from your parents, wife, kids, forget it.. If you are not willing to put yourself out there, Porn is not the right industry for you. You will be OUTED... It will just happen..

5) Retaliation?? - Can't comment on this, sounds like a pretty weird concern. If your worried about pimps and lawyers coming to break your legs, maybe you should stick to your telemarketing job. Not that I think it happens, just sounds like you don't have the right disposition for the P industry.

6) Lawsuits - Welcome to latigious america. You can be sued if you do nothing wrong, you can even lose. There is no safe guard, save maybe a corporate shell. But they can wipe that out if they, slip and fall in your house, contract a disease on your set, get hurt, WHATEVER.... That's why it's important to form a company..

-- Now victor, as a director, let me state this loud and clear. PRODUCTION is one of the hardest things to pull off and pull off well. I would guess that if you are serious about making a go at it, have at least $50,000 to start your company and even that is VERY underfunded. You will need good sound people, good editors, good photographers, good make up and hair, good talent, then web sites, designers to do your box art, conventions and booths to sell your product.

If your going to make crap on your home movie camera, don't waste your time. There is too much good product out there for anyone to waste their time with your crap. And don't think you can cheap out on make up and hair and lighting, etc. PUT YOUR MONEY ON SCREEN .....

Good luck...

 
Mike Quasar
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Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 3:24PM
You won't find any better advice than that. Thank you Mr.Hollywood
James0909
New Member

2 Posts
4/06
Posted - Apr 30 2006 : 4:14PM
you could asociate yourself with a compagnie like naughty america,or any other good internet porn sites.Im sure they could make you a nice deal and they provide the girls and guys also.
If you want to save yourself money,you should direct,whrite and edit your stuff on your own,that way you got only the girls and guys to pay,you dont need big names to start your own compagnie,I would suggest you get new faces.
make yourself a budget,give some nice free content,so people will be interested in joining.

ps:you cant realy be famous if you stay anonymus lol

Mr. Hollywood
Member

LA
14 Posts
3/06
Posted - May 1 2006 : 1:00PM
My pleasure.. :)


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cubesnake
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Posted - May 2 2006 : 5:33AM
Hi,

i don´t want to discurage anyone but after reading all this ... it should be clear to everyone that it really is hard work (in more than one way). The next best thing after Mr. Hollywood´s insight could be a visit to a porn set and see for yourself what can and probably will go wrong. I often wonder how they do it at all ... seeing the amount of porn that is being released every month

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