Forced Entry (1973)
I am not sure if it was so much dirty as it was rough.
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| backdoorman Senior Member  Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 |  Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 9:32PMWhat do you guys consider the "dirtiest" movies of that era? Long Jeanne Silver, Waterpower, and the first Between the Cheeks jump out at me. LJS had the star namesake fucking a guy up the ass with her stub of a leg. Waterpower of course was about enema rape. Between the Cheeks is the first time I ever saw ATOGM when Summer Rose pulled a dick out of Auroras ass and sucked it as it came. Even the Hustler reviewer was a little shocked at that. He said something to the effect that's something Summer won't soon be doing again. Other movies involving lots of S and M also were pretty extreme and many of them had the great Vanessa Del Rio and Sharon Mitchell. Can you guys name some others and please give some details? There are many I haven't seen and would love some info and recommendations. [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 11:03PM Forced Entry (1973) I am not sure if it was so much dirty as it was rough. Edited by - conquistador on 2/28/2008 11:04:19 PM [Link] |
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| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 11:48PM I would also mention many of the films of Zebedy Colt: Sex Wish ( a creepy serial killer/rape flick); Unwilling Lovers (Colt plays a retarded nercrophile) and Farmer's Daughters (more rape, pissing, cum being spit in a fellow's face, good times). Joe Davian and Phil Prince pumped out various S/M flicks with a grim, seriousness, often featuring Vanessa Del Rio and Sharon Mitchell: Kneel Before Me, Story of Prunella and The Taming of Rebecca are Prince's best whereas Davian's best are Appointment with Agony, Domination Blue and Girls USA. Alex De Renzy's films are a strange mixture of dirty and funny, his most outright malicious film is Femmes De Sade which has everything: rape, auto-fellatio, pissing, fake scat and a brief scene of a dog licking a woman's crotch! His other films are more 'fun': Summer in Heat is a porn version of Deliverance with the great Jack Wrangler being sodomized with a corn cob; Pretty Peaches and Babyface are both great porn comedies that somehow also manage to feature enemas, rape, gangbangs, and incest. Expensive Tastes and Winter Heat are also two lesser-known crazy flicks from the 70s. The first has Joey Silvera and his buddies participating in a rape 'scam' with some faked gay sex thrown in; whereas Winter Heat is one of the roughest things I've ever seen Jamie Gillis do in a feature, the scenes with a belt and another with oat meal and Bree Anthony that aren't too easy to sit through. Armand Weston's Defiance (aka Defiance of Good) is a terrific S/M dark fantasy that features Jean Jennings being thrown into a psych ward for smoking drugs by her paranoid parents and being gang raped; which eventually leads to a nightmarish 'education' by her doctor (Fred Lincoln) in the ways of S/M. Weston followed this up with The Taking of Christina, which is actually an excellent rape/revenge b movie but with hardcore scenes. Highly recommended. [Link] |
| Irish Caraway Member I like to fist girls. 274 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Feb 29 2008 : 2:47AM Goodnight everybody!! Irish Caraway [Link] |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Feb 29 2008 : 10:24AM [Link] |
| Alfredo92 Deactivated User Honolulu 127 Posts 2/06 | Posted - Feb 29 2008 : 12:28PM She does an extreme rape scene in it with several men which also involved them peeing on her. It doesn't last too long, but what you see will stick with you. She said in her bio that this scene caused her to take a break from porn. Edited by - alfredo92 on 2/29/2008 12:29:19 PM [Link] |
| WardqueenJanine Member 914 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Feb 29 2008 : 9:42PM Edited by - WardqueenJanine on 3/19/2008 6:37:33 AM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 1 2008 : 10:11AM [Link] |
| Wodgers Member 414 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Mar 2 2008 : 6:08AM nothing can beat the S/M Cole & Whitman's "Erotic Perversion" vignettes series: unlike Cole's other works for H.O.M and California Star, these ones were considered too rough for a US release. if dirty = guilty thoughts, "Taboo" has not been equalled yet! oh and a couple of Karin Shubert / Marina Lotar mid-80's italian movies involving a pet dog.. otherwise, I agree that the DeRenzy, Avon etc.. stuff mentionned above qualifies. Edited by - wodgers on 3/2/2008 6:24:30 AM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 2 2008 : 9:21PM [Link] |
| Yankey Doodel Member 283 Posts 11/05 | Posted - Mar 3 2008 : 3:00AM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Mar 19 2008 : 9:54AM [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Mar 19 2008 : 12:10PM [Link] |
| WardqueenJanine Member 914 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Mar 19 2008 : 4:35PM [Link] |
| Maxrenn Member 21 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 12:58PM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 3:35PM Someone needs to put out an official release of that jem w/ a John Seeman commentary... Before anyone says it, ABA's DVD made from a VHS off of their 16mm print with shitty VHS dropouts and the ABA bug in the bottom right corner does not pass for an official release. [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 11:21PM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 1 2008 : 12:16AM I've investigated the vast majority of ABA stuff for copyright info (to determine whether or not their films are PD as I own prints of many of the film's they've released and have checked with copyright lawyers on a bunch I own and most of their titles, including "Hardgore," are PD. In fact, if you check copyright.gov, a great many of their bigger budget features ARE copyrighted by other distributors, mainly Essex and VCA. Back in the VHS bootleg heaven of the late 90s and early 2000s, ABA was looked at as the all XXX equivalent of SWV. Both looked for otherwise unavailable films to put out and did so usually from less than adequate sources. The only thing that really separates the companies like SWV and ABA from the supposed real "bootleggers" is that SWV and ABA got their discs cold pressed. ABA doesn't own the rights to any of their catalogue, it's all PD. SWV at least remasters their prints and has, since the late 90s, started getting the rights to films which are copyrighted. They also out good extras on their discs, unlike ABA. Again, I know ABA is an "official distributor" but they're no more official than Alpha Video which is the king of crappy releases of PD films from the 40s. [Link] |
| mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06 | Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 5:24PM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 7:12PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 4:58AM [Link] |
| conquistador Deactivated User Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03 | Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 6:04PM I am going to assume you might not be familiar with who Joe D'amato is. He has done lots of great adult as well as horror stuff under a gigantic amount of pseudonyms. If he has been discussed already forgive me. I admit to not thoroughly reading every post after the first Yankee... one. EDIT: clarity Edited by - conquistador on 4/10/2008 6:05:26 PM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 10:20AM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 7:13PM [Link] |
| grover All-Star Member Literotica.com - grover10 16888 Posts 11/04 | Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 7:27PM I purchased my copy from Amazon.com. G  [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Apr 12 2008 : 12:01AM [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Apr 12 2008 : 9:25AM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 12 2008 : 5:51PM The same may not be able to be said of the really quite horrifying "dog scene" in D'Amato's even sleazier Emanuele Around the World.... [Link] |
| Yankey Doodel Member 283 Posts 11/05 | Posted - Apr 14 2008 : 1:48PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 15 2008 : 12:41AM Around the World is also great/terrible. [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Apr 15 2008 : 10:34AM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 15 2008 : 11:08AM Also, you can see Ed's old saggy ass on proud display in the stupid soft-X film The Love Feast by Joseph F. Robertson, the guy who also brought us the abominable classic The Crawling Hand as well as the strange XXX pics. Lovemaking USA and A Dirty Western... [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Apr 15 2008 : 2:06PM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Apr 20 2008 : 12:25PM AHC would jump at he chance to release that double feature (they were lucky enough to do a legit release of Forced Entry w/ Shaun Costello's help). I know for a fact that they have in their possession a print of Necromania (whether or not it is the XXX cut, I do not know). I think I'm gonna suggest such a release. They are currently working with Carter Stevens to put out a mammoth box set of his films as well. Two Eduardo Cemano box sets will be coming out soon. I have the SWV tape of the Take it Out in Trade rough cut. It very well could have been hardcore. Excited I've never seen anything from. [Link] |
| Yankey Doodel Member 283 Posts 11/05 | Posted - Apr 20 2008 : 4:06PM [Link] |
| celtic1979 Deactivated User Into the Void 98 Posts 7/07 | Posted - May 28 2008 : 4:15PM [Link] |
| sweatdancer Member 18 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Dec 17 2008 : 11:15AM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 18 2008 : 5:20AM [Link] |
| sweatdancer Member 18 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Dec 19 2008 : 10:17AM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Dec 19 2008 : 1:10PM The Weston error is another fuck-up on IMDB. I'd really love to see this piece uncut! [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 20 2008 : 4:59AM [Link] |
| sweatdancer Member 18 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Dec 20 2008 : 11:06AM Serena and Gillis fell in lust on the set and became an item for some time after. Weston was sleeping with Vanessa Del Rio but she and Anthony Diamond experienced spontaneous combustion that nearly burned the studio down. Joey Silvera and David Morris (both young guns) had a jizz driven rivalry concerning who could ejaculate with the most accuracy. Adult shoots can be microcosms of sociology and politics and this one is very near the top in terms of its intrinsic drama and its eventual significance to the entire adult industry. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Dec 20 2008 : 2:44PM Joao Fernandez (who, incidentally, was discovered by Damiano and given the nom Harry Flecks; like Arriflex) was a great cinematographer. Not as good as "Larry Revene" but damn near close! While Fernandez did have much to with Weston's films being as good looking as they were, I wouldn't give him all the credit. Weston was one of the finest directors ever to make X rated films and was both a great story teller, with an eye for cinematic detail and a master at creating fascinating character studies. A side note: there has long been (false) speculation that Weston was actually director Bill Milling. The thought was that Milling called himself Weston for his "A" list films and used Dexter Eagle on his "B" films. The two also looked somewhat similar but Weston was about 10 years younger. Although Cecil Howard dispelled that rumor, I've always found it really interesting that the opening hospital scenes in Milling's Blonde Velvet and Weston's Expose Me Lovely are almost shot for shot identical! Both films also star Jennifer Welles. Oh, the mysteries of cinema that may never be solved. Edited by - john lyons on 12/20/2008 2:45:19 PM [Link] |
| sweatdancer Member 18 Posts 12/08 | Posted - Dec 20 2008 : 3:04PM When the editing was over Diamond reviewed the finished scenes with Weston and Davis separately. At first Weston did not want his name associated with the project but he changed his mind after seeing the edited scenes. [Link] |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 31 2009 : 11:20AM [Link] |
| jakejd4949 Senior Member 2938 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Apr 1 2009 : 1:30PM Yes , your right , JOY from 1977 , excellent flick. [Link] |
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