Me, just show me people who are enthusiastic about fucking, and I'm good. I just think most people who are in porn for the long haul would be too concerned about their hygiene. Especially, now.

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Hey dude, I am totally in agreement with you, I am freaking bored with clinically clean anal sex and atm. I mean what the hell is the point of atm if the cock is totally clean and sanitized? lol. Honestly porn doesnt really interest me that much anymore because its all the same. How many times can you watch some chick get fucked in the ass and do atm? It gets really redundant. The shit that turns me on in videos is the unexpected. Like the outakes to Give me Gape, that was fucking awesome.

Dirty a2m I hope is the next thing. Jewel De Nyle did this already in the latest Rocco Animal Trainer. Hopefully more will follow. I would even settle for just dirty ass fucking.

Anyways I am only on my lunch break from work, I will reply more when I get back! I will try to ad some dirty anal scenes I know of as well! Cya

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Scat, and anything associated with it, is simply the most disgusting fetish I've ever heard of. I've never been an advocate of outlawing any form of adult porn, but this is the most compelling argument for government intervention I've ever seen.

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Glad you agree. I have another thread out there that is compiling a Dirty A2M list. Its called "List of Dirty Anal & Dirty A2M Scenes." Please do post to it with all the scenes you know of. It will prove a resource to us all.

J

Edited by - Smartycookie2 on 9/23/2004 6:08:29 PM

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Really not my thing...

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Believe me, Scat IS a really small niche. At my local videostore - rather big with about 8000 dvds - there might be as much as +/- 25 dvds with scat fetish content. And these DVDs seem to be never rent. They are placed in the darkest corner of the shop. I wonder, if any one rented them at all.
The same with GGG dvds, these DVDs arent as popular as you Americans think.
How come? Become they are crap. The production quality - compared to US porn - is way below standard. The girls are ugly, the guys are. too. Cutting is crappy and sex is weak. Thats how it is!

So, don't tell me scat movies are popular here. The only reason they exist, is because it is allowed to make them. Their sheer existence, has nothing to do with a large demand.

I've never seen a scat movie myself, it's disgusting. And thats how most Germans raincoaters think of it.
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Anyway, a little dirtyness, when it comes to A2M, would be okay, i say. But instead of A2m, i prefer still gapes and anal toy games.
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Gapes and asses are nature's most precious gift!

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I don't think I can follow you there!

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Scat play, although not of much interest to me, seems mild and friendly by comparison.

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This is all wrong. If I'm not mistaken you can die from sucking ca-ca off of someone's shaft.

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Playing with and EATING shit is disgusting. I say anyone into that fetish is more turned on by humiliation, manipulation, degradation and inflicting pain.

A person needs to be introspective and seriously wonder "why am I turned on by this?" I'd suggest doing that while talking to a Psychiatrist.

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The first "Fact" on which my post is based is that Ass to Mouth is extremely popular in American movies. It is rapidly gaining in acceptance, and nearly every American anal studio now produces it. Now, your reaction to this fact could be, "I think Ass to Mouth is disgusting because of the dirtyness factor (and I also think anal in general is rather disgusting for the same reason)." If this is your reaction, then good for you, you are being internally consistant and you have every right to your opinions. HOWEVER, based on what titles are the most popular, I assume that most of you will instead have the reaction, "Yes I like Anal and especially Ass to Mouth."

If this is your answer, then another question immediatly pops up. Why do you like anal? And why do you like Ass to Mouth scenes? Think about the first time you saw something like this, what was your reaction? In all likelyhood, it was something like "Holy Sh-t, I can't believe this girl is doing something like this." The possibility that the dick was coming out of an ass presented the obvious implication that it might be "dirty" and the fact that a girl was willing to suck it emphasized her "sluttiness" and made the whole scene all the more arousing. So the potential dirtyness and the willingness of the girl to accept this were the main things that proved very attractive.

Now here's a few more facts. First, no matter how many enemas you take, your ass is never entirely devoid of fecal matter. It may be so little that it can't be seen, but its still there, and thus A2M is already, to a slight degree, Dirty, (and I suspect that's the attraction of it).

Additionally, other than transmitting germs (similar to saliva) and a few potential STD's (Similar to cum and pussy secretions), there is nothing particularly dangerous about fecal matter. In fact, thanks to you bone heads who don't wash your hands after taking a crap, we live surrounded by fecal matter every day. Did you know that 8% of dollar bills have fecal matter on them, the 80% of the door handles in public bathrooms have fecal matter? At any rate, my point is just that its not particularly harmful other than spreading the same germs that any other body fluid would also spread.

So now let's return to Ass to Mouth. I've submitted the idea that the only possible attraction of it is the potential "Dirtyness." If you are a fan of "clean" A2M but dislike "Dirty" A2M, then please try to disprove me, what is your "clean" attraction to it?

If you can't think of any, then you are already on the slippery slope. If you like A2M with fully enema'd butt-holes, how would you feel about A2M with butt-holed that hadn't been enema'd? In all likelyhood one would still not be able to see any dirtyness in many of these scenes, but statistically it would be likely that there would be a higher amount of gunk inside the butt, and thus the supposed "sluttiness" of the girl to be willing to suck it, would have to be even higher. If "No Enema A2M, might be OK, then how about if it might be possible to see some brown stuff on the guy's dick in some of these scenes, just in the natural course of business. Its really just a difference in degree from our earlier examples, and since the perceived sluttiness factor (and thus attractiveness) of the girl moves in lock step with the "crazy stuff" she's willing to do, it makes since that some brown A2M would be interesting to watch. Yes your first reaction might be, "this is disgusting, I can't believe she's doing this," but you would also find yourself strangely attracted to it. I remember having this reaction the first time I ever watched anal, many years ago. It seemed disgusting, but also strangely attractive exectly for its very disgustingness. Slowly it changed from disgusting and attractive to simply attractive, and so I (and the porn industry) have never looked back. Its just a natural evolution.

Let me also simply end by saying that what I am advocating is not the "scat" that some of you say. I'm sure most of you have seen videos or pictures (at least on the internet) of ugly German women like Veronica Moser with their mouths full of crap. I find this just as disgusting as you. Why? Because its not sexual, not in the least. And there is also the factor that its totally staged. I think there is a certain fun element to saying to the girls, don't take an enema, we'll see what happens. Or simply including the anal accidents when they happen instead of cutting them out. That makes it more natural. Or at least as natural as porn sex ever gets.

At any rate, that's my two cents.

J

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"Dangers of Exposure: The greatest danger of exposure to fecal matter is the possibility of it entering your mouth and then getting into your digestive system. While most people would never knowingly ingest this matter, not using proper hygiene after contact with fecal matter or sewage can create a path for microorganisms to enter. Hand-to-mouth exposure to fecal matter can cause illnesses such as salmonellosis and hepatitis A. Salmonellosis is a bacterial disease whose symptoms include abdominal pain, diarrhea, nausea, and somtimes vomiting. Hepatatis A symptoms include fever, malaise, anorexia, nausea, and abdominal discomfort, followed within a few days by jaundice. It can be a mild illness lasting 1–2 weeks or a disabling disease lasting several months. The possibility of contracting life-threatening diseases such as hepatitis B or AIDS is ex-tremely remote as neither hepatitis B nor HIV can be transmitted by the fecal-oral route."

Here's a link to the whole document: UCB CaCa Page

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Edited by - Recondite2 on 9/24/2004 5:54:52 PM

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This dvd was sick, they were groups of quite pretty girls in a garden and they were shitting in each others mouths, pissing in glasses and all drinking.. Gross.. I dont think you should ever see shit in an adult movie imo...

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i feel that your argument is purely argumentative and essentially futile as you're are trying to reconcile what is essentially an emotional reaction with the rationale behind it. as a general rule, the 2 are not reconcilable.

but as i am an argumentative person myself, i will try to reply to your questions.

right off the bat i will ignore any arguments over why this is not a good idea from a legal or health viewpoints. if health was an issue then no porn should be allowed as despite everybody's best efforts documented aids cases exist. as far as the law goes, things are either allowed or not. whether the law makes sense is another discussion altogether.

the "slippery slope" combines with "excluded middle" ("if you are not with us you are against us") are 2 typical tactics used in arguments and rhetorics. for example "if legalise alcohol soon we will have to legalise heroin". the same way there is a range of possibilities between alcohol and heroin there is between liking anal/oral sex to a2m to da2m and they are all equally valid positions.

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Art Isn't Easy.

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What's apparent so far is that some of us think dirty A2M would be hot and some of us think it wouldn't be.

There are also a bunch of people who are writing in about how they think hardcore scat films would be disgusting. I agree, personally, but it is (as some people have pointed out) really a personal taste thing.

So instead of rejecting a discussion of personal taste in favor of vain attempts at hyper-rationality, let's embrace it for a second to see if we can detect a discernable dividing line between "hot" and "disgusting"

So, which category (hot or disgusting) would the following video titles fall into? (imagine your favorite anal porn star doing this).

1) No enema ass to mouth sex. This wouldn't have to have any brown-ness at all. It would just be a natural production of anal sex as it has gone on for thousands of years (before ladies started flushing themselves out with gallons of fleet enemas). They'd just show whatever happened, but in most cases there wouldn't be any brownness whatsoever.

2) Leaving Anal Accidents in films (or including them in out-takes sections). (Or, lets say compiling them into a video release). In this scenareo things wouldn't be staged, but if it happened, it wouldn't be cut. If it happened, why not see it?

Would these really be so disgusting?

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Edited by - Asmodeus on 9/28/2004 1:03:15 AM

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I'm quite sure i'm devoid of this interest, as I'm still bereaveing the loss, of the gloriously gifted Julie Silver from my "go list"
due to a brief run in, with what merely appeared to be the tail end of the dreaded detriment.

Though a long confirmed anal fanatic, A2M is a act that somhow loses the direct association of exactly what it is, and where it originates.
What I mean is, it simply fails to draw the reactionary boost, a more visually direct act delivers, such as the visual effect of swallowing cum.
Although an undertaking whereby she closes her mouth to gulp it down, the eyes "see" the pool of cum, then the ears concurrently,"hear" the gulp, enough so, that the intuitive connection is made, engaging the stimulus.
The other hurdle, is that as a porn enthusiast, Its now witnessed on film, more and more frequently, without ever seeing, nor actually taking the noxious risk.
Missing this dynamic, the sensory mind naturally loses whatever response, if any, it would have originally drawn.
Unless someone actively practiced this nefarious maneuver, to support the relationship in the subconscious, theres nothing to reinforce or maintain the stimulus.

Which reminds me. I think its time to see if the ol lady, will reinforce some cum swallowing stimulus.

Edited by - Endless Loop on 9/28/2004 2:32:10 AM

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But with a twist: Let some woman do you anally with a strap-on.
You will leave your ass au natural , naturally.
You will do A2M, repeatedly.
You will report back to us all here, about your invigorating experience.

Those that talk, gotta walk the walk, as the saying goes.....

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Using the logic of this thread, there must be a growing interest in female-to-male strap-on movies, 'cause Joey Silvera is coming out with one in November, called 'Strap Attack'. Will it have STM, dirty or otherwise? We'll have to see.

I won't pay anything for SmartyCookie to do dirty STM; let's just say it's not my thing (the dirty part, that is).

Edited by - Renee on 9/30/2004 9:51:19 PM

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Unfortunately, there's not that much demand for old short fat guys in porn.

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