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Goldstein All-Star Supporter
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"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 12:51AM
I just updated Adobe Reader, and the legalese you need to agree to in order to use it is just insane!
Incredible privacy issues and exposure to third parties.
Enough of this shit!
So, I uninstalled Adobe Reader and Adobe Air from my XP SP3 desktop.
Fuck 'em.
I just downloaded the free Nuance PDF 7 Reader:
http://www.nuance.com/products/pdf-reader/index.htm
I've actually been using version 6 on my Windows 7 laptop (it came pre-installed with the new computer package).
I've been using it since May 2012, and it opens everything without any problems.
No constant updating and security flaws like Adobe Reader.
The laptop has never had Adobe Reader or Adobe Air on it, and I plan to keep it that way :)
Nuance also allows you to run it with Java disabled (a choice made during installation).
And, given the security issues with Java recently, I like the idea of being able to simply view a PDF file without all the security risks Java introduces.
Another free PDF reader I came across is Foxit.
It is spoken highly of, but, since I already am familiar with Nuance, I went that route.
BTW, does anybody know of alternatives to using Flash?
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 1:02PM
Another company I used to like that seems to have gone bad. Along with Microsoft and Yahoo. Google seems hell bent on getting there too.
Redish All-Star Supporter
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Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 3:23PM
I was recently looking for an Adobe substitute.
Redish All-Star Supporter
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Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 3:29PM
I don't like the fact that Nuance asks for an email and a name before download ...... so I'll pass on that one.
Keith_1
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66 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 4:47PM
I know your aggravation. And mine went away when I switched to Linux. I have Okular http://okular.kde.org/ that is with KDE4.
 
jayo All-Star Supporter
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2117 Posts
7/04
Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 4:49PM
There are a bunch of free readers. I use Adobe Acrobat Pro to create files, so that doubles as my reader. I'm using an old version and it's well-behaved.
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 7:12PM
So, I gave them not my real name and not my main email address.
Everybody you visit on the Internet and email is tracking your IP address anyway
If we really want to disguise ourselves, http://www.hidemyass.com/ works real well
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
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"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
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Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 7:24PM
For anyone that's interested.
In particular, read Section 7 -- I mean read it and think about it, not just skim it.
Sections 8 and 9 are also of some interest.
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You may not rent, lease, sublicense, assign, or transfer your rights in the Software, or authorize all or any portion of the Software to be copied onto another user’s Computer except as may be expressly permitted by this agreement. You may, however, transfer all your rights to Use the Software to another person or legal entity provided that: (a) you also transfer (i) this agreement, and (ii) the Software and all other software or hardware bundled or pre-installed with the Software, including all copies, Updates, and prior versions, to such person or entity, (b) you retain no copies, including backups and copies stored on a Computer, and (c) the receiving party accepts the terms and conditions of this agreement and any other terms and conditions upon which you obtained a valid license to the Software. Notwithstanding the foregoing, you may not transfer education, pre-release, or not for resale copies of the Software.
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7.1 Use of PDF Files. When you Use the Software to open a PDF file that has been enabled to display ads, your Computer may connect to a website operated by Adobe, an advertiser, or other third party. Your Internet Protocol address (“IP Address”) is sent when this happens. The party hosting the site may use technology to send (or “serve”) advertising or other electronic content that appears in or near the opened PDF file. The website operator may also use , web beacons (also known as action tags or single-pixel gifs), and other technologies to increase and measure the effectiveness of advertisements and to personalize advertising content. Your communication with Adobe websites is governed by the Adobe Online Privacy Policy found at http://www.adobe.com/go/privacy (“Adobe Online Privacy Policy”). Adobe may not have access to or control over features that a third party may use, and the information practices of third party websites are not covered by the Adobe Online Privacy Policy.
7.2 Updating. If your Computer is connected to the Internet, the Software may, without additional notice, check for Updates that are available for automatic download and installation to your Computer and let Adobe know the Software is successfully installed. For Reader, Updates may be automatically downloaded but not installed without additional notice unless you change your preferences to accept automatic installation. Only non-personally identifying information is transmitted to Adobe when this happens, except to the extent that IP Addresses may be considered personally identifiable in some jurisdictions. The use of such information, including your IP Address, as provided by the auto update process is governed by the Adobe Online Privacy Policy. Please consult the Documentation for information about changing default update settings at http://www.adobe.com/go/settingsmanager for Flash Player, http://www.adobe.com/go/update_details_url (or successor website) for Reader, and http://www.adobe.com/go/air_update_details for Adobe AIR.
7.3 Local Storage. Flash Player and Adobe AIR may allow third parties to store certain information on your Computer in a local data file known as a local shared object. The type and amount of information that the third party application requests to be stored in a local shared object can vary by application and such requests are controlled by the third party. To find more information on local shared objects and learn how to limit or control the storage of local shared objects on your Computer, please visit http://www.adobe.com/go/flashplayer_security.
7.4 Settings Manager. Flash Player and third-party programs using Adobe AIR may save certain user settings by storing them on your Computer as a local shared object. These settings do not contain personally identifiable information associated with you. They are associated with the instance of Flash Player or the third-party program using Adobe AIR on your Computer, allowing you to customize runtime features. The Flash Player Settings Manager permits you to modify such settings, including the ability to limit third parties from storing local shared objects or grant third party content the right to access your computer’s microphone and camera. You can find more information on how to configure settings in your version of Flash Player, including information on how to disable local shared objects using the Flash Player Settings Manager, at http://www.adobe.com/go/settingsmanager. You can remove equivalent settings for third-party programs using Adobe AIR by uninstalling the third-party program.
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7.6 Content Protection Technology. If you Use the Adobe Runtimes to access content that has been protected with Adobe Flash Media Rights Management Server or Flash Access software (“Content Protection”), in order to let you play the protected content, the Software may automatically request media usage rights and individualization from a server on the Internet, and may download and install required components of the Software, including any available Content Protection Updates. You can clear the content license information using the Flash Player Settings Manager. Learn more about using the Settings Manager at http://www.adobe.com/go/settingsmanager. You can find more information on Content Protection at http://www.adobe.com/go/protected_content.
7.7 Use of Adobe Online Services. If your Computer is connected to the Internet, the Software may, without additional notice and on an intermittent or regular basis, facilitate your access to content and services that are hosted on websites maintained by Adobe or its affiliates (“Adobe Online Services”). Examples of such Adobe Online Services might include, but are not limited to: Acrobat.com. In some cases an Adobe Online Service might appear as a feature or extension within the Software even though it is hosted on a website. In some cases, access to an Adobe Online Service might require a separate subscription or other fee in order to access it, and/or your assent to additional terms of use. Adobe Online Services might not be available in all languages or to residents of all countries and Adobe may, at any time and for any reason, modify or discontinue the availability of any Adobe Online Service. Adobe also reserves the right to begin charging a fee for access to or use of an Adobe Online Service that was previously offered at no charge. If your Computer is connected to the Internet, the Software may, without additional notice, update downloadable materials from these Adobe Online Services so as to provide immediate availability of these Adobe Online Services even when you are offline. When the Software connects to the Internet as a function of an Adobe Online Service, your IP Address, user name, and password may be sent to Adobe’s servers and stored by Adobe in accordance with the Additional Terms of Use or the “help” menu in the Software. This information may be used by Adobe to send you transactional messages to facilitate the Adobe Online Service. Adobe may display in-product marketing to provide information about the Software and other Adobe products and Services, including but not limited to Adobe Online Services, based on certain Software specific features including but not limited to, the version of the Software, including without limitation, platform version, version of the Software, and language. For further information about in-product marketing, please see the “help” menu in the Software. Whenever the Software makes an Internet connection and communicates with an Adobe website, whether automatically or due to explicit user request, the Adobe Online Privacy Policy shall apply. Additionally, unless you are provided with separate terms of use at that time, the Adobe.com Terms of Use (http://www.adobe.com/go/terms) shall apply. Please note that the Adobe Privacy Policy allows tracking of website visits and it addresses in detail the topic of tracking and use of cookies, web beacons, and similar devices.
8. Third Party Offerings. You acknowledge and agree to the following:
8.1 Third Party Offerings. The Software may allow you to access and interoperate with third party content, software applications, and data services, including rich Internet applications (“Third Party Offerings”). Your access to and use of any Third Party Offering, including any goods, services, or information, is governed by the terms and conditions respecting such offerings and copyright laws of the United States and other countries. Third Party Offerings are not owned or provided by Adobe. You agree that you will not use any of such Third Party Offerings in violation of copyright laws of the United States or other countries.Adobe or the third party may at any time, for any reason, modify or discontinue the availability of any Third Party Offerings. Adobe does not control, endorse, or accept responsibility for Third Party Offerings. Any dealings between you and any third party in connection with a Third Party Offerings, including such party’s privacy policies and use of your personal information, delivery of and payment for goods and services, and any other terms, conditions, warranties, or representations associated with such dealings, are solely between you and such third party. Third Party Offerings might not be available in all languages or to residents of all countries and Adobe or the third party may, at any time and for any reason, modify or discontinue the availability of any Third Party Offerings.
8.2 EXCEPT AS EXPRESSLY AGREED BY ADOBE OR ITS AFFILIATES OR A THIRD PARTY IN A SEPARATE AGREEMENT, YOUR USE OF ADOBE AND THIRD PARTY OFFERINGS IS AT YOUR OWN RISK UNDER THE WARRANTY AND LIABILITY LIMITATIONS OF SECTIONS 1.1 AND 10.
9. Digital Certificates. You acknowledge and agree to the following:
9.1 Use. Adobe AIR uses digital certificates to help you identify the publisher of Adobe AIR applications created by third parties. Additionally, Adobe AIR uses digital certificates to establish the identity of servers accessed via the Transport Layer Security (TLS) protocol, including access via HTTPS. Adobe Reader uses digital certificates to sign and validate signatures within PDF documents and to validate certified PDF documents. Adobe Runtimes use digital certificates to secure protected content from unauthorized usage. Your Computer may connect to the Internet at the time of validation of a digital certificate in order to download current certificate revocation lists (CRLs) or to update the list of digital certificates. This access may be made both by the Software and by applications based on the Software. Digital certificates are issued by third party certificate authorities, including Adobe Certified Document Services (CDS) vendors listed at http://www.adobe.com/go/partners_cds and Adobe Approved Trust List (AATL) vendors listed at http://www.adobe.com/go/aatl, and individualization vendors found at http://www.adobe.com/go/protected_content (collectively “Certification Authorities”), or can be self-signed.
9.2 Terms and Conditions. Purchase, use and reliance upon digital certificates are the responsibility of you and a Certification Authority. Before you rely upon any certified document, digital signature, or Certification Authority services, you should review the applicable terms and conditions under which the relevant Certification Authority provides services, including, for example, any subscriber agreements, relying party agreements, certificate policies, and practice statements. See the links on http://www.adobe.com/go/partners_cds for information about Adobe’s CDS vendors and http://www.adobe.com/go/aatl for information about Adobe’s AATL vendors.
9.3 Acknowledgement. You agree that (a) a digital certificate may have been revoked prior to the time of verification, making the digital signature or certificate appear valid when in fact it is not, (b) the security or integrity of a digital certificate may be compromised due to an act or omission by the signer of the document, the applicable Certification Authority, or any other third party, and (c) a certificate may be a self-signed certificate not provided by a Certification Authority. YOU ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO RELY ON A CERTIFICATE. UNLESS A SEPARATE WRITTEN WARRANTY IS PROVIDED TO YOU BY A CERTIFICATION AUTHORITY, YOU USE DIGITAL CERTIFICATES AT YOUR SOLE RISK.
9.4 Third Party Beneficiaries. You agree that any Certification Authority you rely upon is a third party beneficiary of this agreement and shall have the right to enforce this agreement in its own name as if it were Adobe.
9.5 Indemnity. You agree to hold Adobe and any applicable Certification Authority (except as expressly provided in its terms and conditions) harmless from any and all liabilities, losses, actions, damages, or claims (including all reasonable expenses, costs, and attorneys fees) arising out of or relating to any use of, or reliance on, by you or any third party that receives a document from you with a digital certificate, any service of such authority, including, without limitation (a) reliance on an expired or revoked certificate, (b) improper verification of a certificate, (c) use of a certificate other than as permitted by any applicable terms and conditions, this agreement, or applicable law; (d) failure to exercise reasonable judgment under the circumstances in relying on issuer services or certificates, or (e) failure to perform any of the obligations as required in the terms and conditions related to the services.
10. Limitation of Liability.
IN NO EVENT WILL ADOBE, ITS SUPPLIERS, OR CERTIFICATION AUTHORITIES BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DAMAGES, CLAIMS OR COSTS WHATSOEVER INCLUDING ANY CONSEQUENTIAL, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, OR ANY LOST PROFITS OR LOST SAVINGS, EVEN IF AN ADOBE REPRESENTATIVE HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH LOSS, DAMAGES, OR CLAIMS. THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS AND EXCLUSIONS APPLY TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW IN YOUR JURISDICTION. ADOBE’S AGGREGATE LIABILITY AND THAT OF ITS SUPPLIERS AND CERTIFICATION AUTHORITIES UNDER OR IN CONNECTION WITH THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT PAID FOR THE SOFTWARE, IF ANY. Nothing contained in this agreement limits Adobe’s liability to you in the event of death or personal injury resulting from Adobe’s negligence or for the tort of deceit (fraud). Adobe is acting on behalf of its suppliers and Certification Authorities for the purpose of disclaiming, excluding, and/or limiting obligations, warranties, and liability as provided in this agreement, but in no other respects and for no other purpose. For further information, please see the jurisdiction specific information at the end of this agreement, if any, or contact Adobe’s Customer Support Department.
11. Export Rules.
You agree that the Software will not be shipped, transferred, or exported into any country or used in any manner prohibited by the United States Export Administration Act or any other export laws, restrictions, or regulations (collectively the “Export Laws”). In addition, if the Software is identified as export controlled items under the Export Laws, you represent and warrant that you are not a citizen, or otherwise located within, an embargoed nation (including without limitation Iran, Syria, Sudan, Cuba, and North Korea) and that you are not otherwise prohibited under the Export Laws from receiving the Software. All rights to Use the Software are granted on condition that such rights are forfeited if you fail to comply with the terms of this agreement.
12. Governing Law.
If you are a consumer who uses the Software for only personal non-business purposes, then this agreement will be governed by the laws of the state in which you purchased the license to use the Software. If you are not such a consumer, this agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with the substantive laws in force in: (a) the State of California, if a license to the Software is obtained when you are in the United States, Canada, or Mexico; or (b) Japan, if a license to the Software is obtained when you are in Japan; or (c) Singapore, if a license to the Software is obtained when you are in a member state of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, the People’s Republic of China (including Hong Kong S.A.R. and Macau S.A.R.), Taiwan, or the Republic of Korea; or (d) England, if a license to the Software is obtained when you are in any jurisdiction not described above. The respective courts of Santa Clara County, California when California law applies, Tokyo District Court in Japan, when Japanese law applies, and the competent courts of London, England, when the law of England applies, shall each have non-exclusive jurisdiction over all disputes relating to this agreement. When Singapore law applies, any dispute arising out of or in connection with this agreement, including any question regarding its existence, validity, or termination, shall be referred to and finally resolved by arbitration in Singapore in accordance with the Arbitration Rules of the Singapore International Arbitration Centre (“SIAC”) for the time being in force, which rules are deemed to be incorporated by reference in this section. There shall be one arbitrator, selected jointly by the parties. If the arbitrator is not selected within thirty (30) days of the written demand by a party to submit to arbitration, the Chairman of the SIAC shall make the selection. The language of the arbitration shall be English. Notwithstanding any provision in this agreement, Adobe or you may request any judicial, administrative, or other authority to order any provisional or conservatory measure, including injunctive relief, specific performance, or other equitable relief, prior to the institution of legal or arbitration proceedings, or during the proceedings, for the preservation of its rights and interests or to enforce specific terms that are suitable for provisional remedies. The English version of this agreement will be the version used when interpreting or construing this agreement. This agreement will not be governed by the conflict of law rules of any jurisdiction or the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods, the application of which is expressly excluded.
13. General Provisions.
If any part of this agreement is found void and unenforceable, it will not affect the validity of the balance of this agreement, which shall remain valid and enforceable according to its terms. This agreement shall not prejudice the statutory rights of any party dealing as a consumer. This agreement may only be modified by a writing signed by an authorized officer of Adobe. Updates may be licensed to you by Adobe with additional or different terms. This is the entire agreement between Adobe and you relating to the Software and it supersedes any prior representations, discussions, undertakings, communications, or advertising relating to the Software.
14. Notice to U.S. Government End Users.
For U.S. Government End Users, Adobe agrees to comply with all applicable equal opportunity laws including, if appropriate, the provisions of Executive Order 11246, as amended, Section 402 of the Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974 (38 USC 4212), and Section 503 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as amended, and the regulations at 41 CFR Parts 60-1 through 60-60, 60-250, and 60-741. The affirmative action clause and regulations contained in the preceding sentence shall be incorporated by reference in this agreement.
15. Compliance with Licenses.
If you are a business or organization, you agree that upon request from Adobe or Adobe’s authorized representative, you will, within thirty (30) days, fully document and certify that use of any and all Software at the time of the request is in conformity with your valid licenses from Adobe.
16. European Union Provisions.
Nothing included in this agreement (including Section 4.5) shall limit any non-waivable right to decompile the Software that you may enjoy under mandatory law. For example, if you are located in the European Union (EU), you may have the right upon certain conditions specified in the applicable law to decompile the Software if it is necessary to do so in order to achieve interoperability of the Software with another software program, and you have first asked Adobe in writing to provide the information necessary to achieve such interoperability and Adobe has not made such information available. In addition, such decompilation may only be done by you or someone else entitled to use a copy of the Software on your behalf. Adobe has the right to impose reasonable conditions before providing such information. Any information supplied by Adobe or obtained by you, as permitted hereunder, may only be used by you for the purpose described herein and may not be disclosed to any third party or used to create any software which is substantially similar to the expression of the Software or used for any other act which infringes Adobe or its licensors’ copyright.
17. Specific Provisions and Exceptions.
17.1 Limitation of Liability for Users Residing in Germany and Austria.
17.1.1 If you obtained the Software in Germany or Austria, and you usually reside in such country, then Section 10 does not apply. Instead, subject to the provisions in Section 17.1.2, Adobe’s statutory liability for damages shall be limited as follows: (a) Adobe shall be liable only up to the amount of damages as typically foreseeable at the time of entering into the license agreement in respect of damages caused by a slightly negligent breach of a material contractual obligation and (b) Adobe shall not be liable for damages caused by a slightly negligent breach of a non-material contractual obligation.
17.1.2 The aforesaid limitation of liability shall not apply to any mandatory statutory liability, in particular, to liability under the German Product Liability Act, liability for assuming a specific guarantee or liability for culpably caused personal injuries.
17.1.3 You are required to take all reasonable measures to avoid and reduce damages, in particular to make back-up copies of the Software and your computer data subject to the provisions of this agreement.
If you have any questions regarding this agreement, or if you wish to request any information from Adobe, please use the address and contact information included with this product or via the web at http://www.adobe.com to contact the Adobe office serving your jurisdiction.
Adobe, Adobe AIR, AIR, Authorware, Flash, Reader, and Shockwave are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries.
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Adobe Privacy Policy
Keith_1
Member

66 Posts
3/05
Posted - Mar 11 2013 : 3:04PM
Heya Goldstein, thanks for the info. Wow, I had no idea...glad I don't use Adobe anymore!
Redish All-Star Supporter
Poetic Moderator

Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine
4076 Posts
12/03
Posted - Mar 11 2013 : 7:21PM
I realize that, that wasn't the point of my comment.
If they are asking for this information up front, before downloading their free software, what does that say about their intetions in the future?
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Mar 11 2013 : 7:41PM
^ I don't consider a name and an email address to be an unwarranted intrusion into my privacy, nor does it alarm me.
All you're doing is registering the software.
Just because its free software, I don't see what the transgression is?
A name and an email address are pretty standard for registering purchased software or purchasing anything online.
I'm security paranoid, but I think you're drawing a pretty hard line.
Read the Adobe "Personal Computer Software License Agreement" I posted -- THAT concerns me.
JohnW
Senior Member

1351 Posts
6/08
Posted - Mar 12 2013 : 10:15AM
I've been looking for an alternative, but I've been too lazy to try them out.
I need a pdf reader that:
- Support in-browser viewing in IE*, Chrome, Opera, and Firefox
- Including all 64bit versions of those
- Has proper scaling (no bad aliasing)
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Mar 12 2013 : 11:16AM
I'm using Firefox, and the Nuance PDF Reader installs a plug-in called "DocuCom PDF Plus (Zeon PDF Plugin For Mozilla)."
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Also (from the Nuance link):
Minimum system requirements for Nuance PDF Reader
A computer with an Intel® Pentium® or higher processor or equivalent
Supported operating systems
Windows XP 32-bit Edition with Service Pack 3
Windows Vista 32-bit or 64-bit Editions with Service Pack 1
Windows 7 32-bit or 64-bit Editions
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 or above
256 MB of memory (RAM), 512 MB recommended
50 MB of free hard disk space for application files plus 50 MB working space during installation
SVGA monitor with 256 colors, but preferably 16-bit color (called Medium Color in XP) and 800 x 600 pixel resolution
Windows-compatibl pointing device
Web access needed for document conversion, product registration and obtaining live updates for the program.
Note: Performance and speed will be enhanced if your computer’s processor, memory, and available disk space exceed minimum requirements.
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For only $49.99, PDF Create 8 looks awfully tempting if one needs the ability to create their own .pdf files.
Also, for $99.99, PDF Converter Professional gives you their "full-monty" PDF viewer/creator package.
Adobe Acrobat XI Pro, by comparison, is $449.00!
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Apr 14 2013 : 8:36AM
I just assume most of these things have godawful privacy compromises. I'd rather walk on broken glass than read the terms and conditions of everything I install. Probably this is what most people do. And that's why when the big one comes, it's going to take everyone by surprise.
BYOB_Kenobi
Senior Member

“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard
2684 Posts
8/09
Posted - Apr 14 2013 : 8:45AM
I've abandoned Adobe Acrobat long time ago. As far as Adobe Air, ever since Adobe Flash, they are the major players and developers to push supercookies for the longest time.
Sumatra PDF is much better. It's free. Loads fast. Small footprint. Does 90% of Acrobat Reader. Been using for years. Highly recommend it.
Just look at the ratings at CNet which are undervalued for Sumatra.
Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 4/14/2013 8:47:32 AM
 
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Apr 14 2013 : 12:24PM
^ There's at least a couple of real decent alternatives for Firefox. I don't have anything installed right now because I hardly ever read PDF files. Actually, the last one I had installed was better than Adobe.
Goldstein All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

"You have sacrificed nothing and no one."
3689 Posts
8/10
Posted - Nov 13 2013 : 8:53AM
Adobe Breach Inadvertently Tied to Other Accounts
November 12, 2013
By NICK BILTON
This week, Ammon Bartram, a software engineer and co-founder of SocialCam, was talking to a friend about a recent security breach at Adobe in which hackers were able to gain access to tens of millions of encrypted passwords and email addresses.
The friend, Mr. Bartram said, did not think anyone would be able to find out his pass code from the stolen data. ”I’ll bet you $10 you can’t figure it out,” the friend said confidently.
Mr. Bartram went to a file-sharing website, downloaded a nearly 9-gigabyte file the Adobe hackers had posted online that is said to contain 150 million emails and encrypted passwords for Adobe user accounts, and began searching.
Soon after, Mr. Bartram said in a phone interview, he informed his friend: “Your password is ‘dinosaur.’”
While he took glee in winning the $10 bet, Mr. Bartram was shocked by what he found during his search.

“I’ve been able to break roughly one out of every six passwords I attack. That’s something like 25 million broken passwords, with associated emails,” he said. “This is a big deal. Due to password reuse, these passwords will give access to all sorts of accounts.”
While Adobe “hashed” its passwords — which involves mashing up users’ passwords with a mathematical algorithm — the company did not apply this level of security to people’s e-mail addresses or the hints they use when they forget their passwords.
So Mr. Bartram was able to search for his friend’s email address, then copy the “hashed” version of the password and search for other people who used that same string of letters and numbers. He found 500 people with the same password as his friend, and then searched the nonencrypted hints that people had written if they forgot their password on the Adobe website.
Adobe did not respond to a request for comment.
Even more disturbing, he said, was the number of people who used the same password for their bank accounts, email, Facebook and home garage door codes as a password on the Adobe website. Some even used their Social Security numbers as passwords.
In tens of thousands of instances people write a hint to themselves that says “same as my Facebook password” or “same as my bank password.”
Mr. Bartram said this could all have been much more difficult if Adobe had “salted” the data it stored on its users, meaning it would have appended random digits to the end of each hashed password to make it harder, but not impossible, for hackers to crack.
Brian Krebs, an investigative reporter and security researcher with Krebs on Security who initially discovered the Adobe breach last month, said in a phone interview that Adobe did not put enough effort into securing its users’ information.

“This is a perennial problem for most organizations, even the largest ones, which should know better, but they are still relying on approaches from a long time ago to protect people’s passwords,” Mr. Krebs said.
And while Adobe appears not to have done well in protecting data, the problem is compounded by users who write password hints that tie back to their banks, home addresses and Social Security numbers.
“The best advice is for people not to recycle the same password in multiple places,” Mr. Krebs said. “It’s prohibitively complex for hackers to crack passwords that are over 13 characters long; people have to think pass phrases instead of passwords.”
Mr. Bartram said he found a number of email addresses tied to government institutions, including senate.gov. “All of this happened because Adobe did not follow best practices for password storage,” he said.
nietzsche
Deactivated User

5470 Posts
8/03
Posted - Dec 23 2013 : 3:23AM
One word: Keepass. Allows you to store hashed passwords in a database. It will generate passwords for you. But you MUST use a large random string for the master password (I use 30 characters), or it's useless. You can take it with you on a thumb as well; if you encrypt the thumb as well, it's practically impossible to break. And there are ways to store it automatically in dropbox and google docs so you can get it anywhere.
It's a little bit of a pain in the ass, but it's something you have to do.
Also, I coincidentally downloaded nuance yesterday and am loving it. I especially like the ability to annotate and highlight. If I could get something like it for Linux I'd be in good shape.
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