do male performers get bored? (page 2)

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Leslie Member Goleta,CA 279 Posts 1/01	Posted - Mar 21 2007 : 10:56PM Fluffers were mandatory...in the big gangbang,Annabelle,Jasmin,Houston... [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 21 2007 : 11:02PM JEWEL wrote: I've never seen a fluffer in my whole career. Click to expand Well you started your career in 1997 or so? The fluffer activity I saw predates that by at least a decade. Maybe they were only around in the 80's? I don't know....but thanks for the answer. [Link]
christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 1:58AM i think a fluffer by definition is someone who keeps guy hard off camera, which makes no sense today. is a girl is willing to blow or fuck dudes, she is going in front of the camera. and when i said 75 dudes, i was probably overstating the number a little bit. i bet its more like 50 guys really that actually do more than 10 scenes a month. and only about 25 that work every day. and maybe 10 that do 2 scenes a day a couple times a week. [Link]
katsirk Member Crush on Greg....mmm 812 Posts 7/06	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 2:09AM christianx wrote: i think a fluffer by definition is someone who keeps guy hard off camera, which makes no sense today. is a girl is willing to blow or fuck dudes, she is going in front of the camera. and when i said 75 dudes, i was probably overstating the number a little bit. i bet its more like 50 guys really that actually do more than 10 scenes a month. and only about 25 that work every day. and maybe 10 that do 2 scenes a day a couple times a week. Click to expand Can most of us name or guess the names of those 10? So is P.O.V. the way to go, or what? [Link]

davecummings Member 368 Posts 12/02	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 2:28AM khyber wrote: JEWEL wrote: I'd say 98% of males use Viagra in porn. Click to expand Remember when there were only a few main porn studs? I'm talking about Tom Byron, Randy West, Joey Silvera, etc. The females cast lists would change, but these guys seemed to be in every porn movie. It gives you a new respect for these guys, as they were doing it without the assistance of the blue pills. Click to expand Those gentlemen, Ron Jeremy, and others of us who were in hundreds of sex scenes during the pre-blue pill era often remind each other how we had to prove ourselves the "hard" way back when new guys had to actually "perform", not just take a pill!!! :-) Dave www.davecummings.com [Link]
davecummings Member 368 Posts 12/02	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 2:31AM Leslie wrote: Fluffers were mandatory...in the big gangbang,Annabelle,Jasmin,Houston... Click to expand Other than those special circumstances, like Jewel, I have NEVER seen fluffers on set, either pre or post blue pill days. Dave [Link]
_swede_ Deactivated User 579 Posts 4/05	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 6:33AM I hope that all perfomers start taking viagra, I don't care if It's natural wood or not. I just hate when they have to take the cock out and stroke it to get hard again, it's a big turn off. I rather see non stop performing, where the guys is hard all the time. [Link]
Gunzo Senior Member 1377 Posts 2/05	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 10:22AM I wish more porn was shot in a way that didn't require male performers to be hard for such a long time. Photo shoots seem to take way more time than necessary, why even bother? Why not use screen caps instead? I don't buy porn to watch people pose... gaping mouths and assholes. [Link]
JEWEL (imposter) Jewel De'Nyle 736 Posts 1/06	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 10:27AM I try not to shoot any scene over 20min for that very reason I don't want to see a guy get worn out or the girl I like to keep the action hot and the talent fresh. But there are times it just doesn't matter if someones having a bad day you got to shoot around it and make the best of it for both the talents sake. [Link]
sickguy Deactivated User I'm unofficially Beauty Dior's #1 Fan 736 Posts 9/06	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 11:05AM First off I want to thank everyone for responding to my question/post. One of the other things I guess I am wondering is this: The performance issue you aside, does the novelty of who these male performers get to fuck wear off? I mean, if I got to fuck Beauty Dior, it would almost seem surreal to me. Even after I did it I would be in disbelief. The fact that these guys are fucking women that most guys only get to dream about must give them crazy ego's right? I guess the part that makes this buisnees so confusing to me is distinguishing the fantasy/reality factor. I watch a movie and say to myself "oh these people are having such great sex and having good time together". But when your mind is concentrating how your looking on camera and all that other stuff, does it take away from the experience? So does good old J.S say to himself "man Beauty Dior is hot. I would love to fuck her off camera to see what she's really like"? Or does J.S say to himself "hoooollllly shittttt. I just fucked Beauty Dior!!! I love my life and wouldn't trade if for the world" (knowing that millions of guys are jelous) I think it's really hard for the average person who has never had sex for money to comprehend this. I don't know if this makes sense but I'm just trying to understand the mind set of these guys. I also realize they all have there own personalities but I looking for what the mamority of them may think. [Link]
the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 6:12PM sickguy wrote: The fact that these guys are fucking women that most guys only get to dream about must give them crazy ego's right? Click to expand See Lockwood, Kurt [Link]
WhiteBOY Member 305 Posts 11/06	Posted - Mar 22 2007 : 7:52PM the unknown pervert wrote: sickguy wrote: The fact that these guys are fucking women that most guys only get to dream about must give them crazy ego's right? Click to expand See Lockwood, Kurt Click to expand Yes, I am SO tired of hearing Lockwood brag about his website in every BTS he is showing up in.... I mean, it's not THAT awsome site.... [Link]
JEWEL (imposter) Jewel De'Nyle 736 Posts 1/06	Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 9:48AM After a while some guys tend to put themselves in the same league as the girls and become primadonnas. I tend to knock them down to reality and let them know they are meatpuppets on my set they just give me a grin and wish they could fuck the shit out of me to prove how great they really are so it feeds my ego as I know I'm still the master of my domain and no matter how hard they try I still won't fuck them even if they think they are casanova HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH......... God I love my job. [Link]
WhiteBOY Member 305 Posts 11/06	Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 11:55AM JEWEL wrote: After a while some guys tend to put themselves in the same league as the girls and become primadonnas. I tend to knock them down to reality and let them know they are meatpuppets on my set they just give me a grin and wish they could fuck the shit out of me to prove how great they really are so it feeds my ego as I know I'm still the master of my domain and no matter how hard they try I still won't fuck them even if they think they are casanova HEHEHEHEHEHEHEH......... God I love my job. Click to expand Amen, Jewel! You lead the way and show those steroid ego's where the balls are, and whose balls to fry! Chew and spit 'em out! Love 'ya Jewel, and your always appreciated opinions!!! [Link]

Al3x Member ex-Member 603 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 2:54PM after reading this, i am a little bit afraid of jewel Edited by - Al3x on 3/23/2007 2:54:56 PM [Link]
christianx Senior Member 1883 Posts 9/04	Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 3:00PM davecummings wrote: khyber wrote: JEWEL wrote: I'd say 98% of males use Viagra in porn. Click to expand Remember when there were only a few main porn studs? I'm talking about Tom Byron, Randy West, Joey Silvera, etc. The females cast lists would change, but these guys seemed to be in every porn movie. It gives you a new respect for these guys, as they were doing it without the assistance of the blue pills. Click to expand Those gentlemen, Ron Jeremy, and others of us who were in hundreds of sex scenes during the pre-blue pill era often remind each other how we had to prove ourselves the "hard" way back when new guys had to actually "perform", not just take a pill!!! :-) Dave www.davecummings.com Click to expand of course no one mentions that there are about 200 more companies shooting about 1000 more scenes a week than before. i would be raring to fucking go as well if i had only done 1 scene each week. try doing 11 scenes each week. and do those scenes with every type of girl imaginable...old,young, big, little. i mean if i got to fuck ginger lynn once a week i would be in fucking heaven. i find it really funny when people bring up that they were in the business before any assistance. who cares? [Link]
JEWEL (imposter) Jewel De'Nyle 736 Posts 1/06	Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 3:38PM I agree way to much product on the market and to many scenes being shot and it's overloading the talent and that's why you don't see stars anymore like you use to as there is to much going out and not enough concentration on building up the girls anymore it's about pumping out product the more the better because prices for DVDs have dropped significantly. And with the flooded market and huge talent pool the work never stops and it doesn't give anyone downtime. We all suffer the consequences. We are our own worst enemies. I think the business as a whole is getting burned out. [Link]
Alberto Rey Member 191 Posts 10/03	Posted - Mar 31 2007 : 3:15AM JEWEL wrote: I'd say 98% of males use Viagra in porn. Click to expand Yep ! that is crazy ! I saw 20 years old guys eating Viagra like if it was popcorn ! And some of them still giving a very weak performance ! When I first started in the porn industry 15 years ago there was no medicine. There was you, the girl and the camera ! We should have like in the Olympic games some doping test ! LOL ! [Link]
R.Jordan Member 373 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 31 2007 : 3:20AM what, are you the real Alberto Rey? can anyone confirm this? [Link]
Alberto Rey Member 191 Posts 10/03	Posted - Mar 31 2007 : 3:25AM R.Jordan wrote: what, are you the real Alberto Rey? can anyone confirm this? Click to expand Nope I'm the fake one made out of plastic ! LOL [Link]
R.Jordan Member 373 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 31 2007 : 3:38AM no, i mean are you the performer Alberto Rey or are you just someone pretending to be him [Link]
Alberto Rey Member 191 Posts 10/03	Posted - Mar 31 2007 : 3:53AM R.Jordan wrote: no, i mean are you the performer Alberto Rey or are you just someone pretending to be him Click to expand I'll let you guess... LOL [Link]
leglover1000 Member 177 Posts 3/07	Posted - Mar 31 2007 : 11:26PM JEWEL wrote: Yes they get bored and jaded in fact you can put the prettiest girl in front of them and they will look disgusted. Click to expand Jewel, you are director so I am not going to argue against what you have said, but I still don't get how a dude can look disgusted if they had the privelege to fuck Silvia Saint, Monica sweetheart, Taylor Hayes and Tera Patrick. I am just curious, have you noticed that fetish male preformers (especially feet) are more enthusiastic about their work than regular male performers? Thanks leglover1000 [Link]
Arto Del Funko Deactivated User insert something clever here 42 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jun 11 2007 : 7:03AM so does anybody know any methods which male performers use to hold back from firing off too soon? [Link]

Lange Member Make Gapes not War 230 Posts 3/04	Posted - Jun 11 2007 : 7:53AM Viagra Edited by - hardware on 6/11/2007 11:13:20 AM [Link]
amneth Member 91 Posts 9/05	Posted - Jun 12 2007 : 10:35AM In one of Stagliano's movies behind the scenes footage, you saw the performers taking a break. One of the performers was Manuel Ferrara, so you know he doesn't have wood problems. I would think most of the performers need a break considering the athletic, multi-position fucking they do. Personally, I would imagine alot of these guys also get off on looking at naked women. Myself, I can't even cum with oral sex. I fuck for a minimum of an hour unless I haven't fucked for months. There have been so many times where the girl has gotten off and I haven't, I can't count them. I think after you fuck or masturbate alot, it becomes more difficult to cum with regular sex. I'm assuming most of these male performers have done it so much, they just enjoy looking at the hot naked women and being inside their juicy pink flesh. Why be in a business fucking women, if you don't love to look at them and hear them and smell them. Probably wouldn't be very good at your job. I'm betting most of the best male performers don't get bored. I bet there into it even with all the distractions. They just love being up in women and having sex with them. I know I love that shit. The boring part for me is the cumming part. The fun part is all that happens inbetween. [Link]
JackLawrenceXXX Member "A day without the Intimate Juices of a Woman... is like a day without sunshine!" 26 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jun 12 2007 : 4:12PM Very interesting thread you have here... here are my comments.. Being Boored: Well, I am addicted to Pussy... there are three kinds of men in the business... the Pussy Hounds.. the men who hate women and those somewhere in between... I have had months with as little a 4 scenes and some months with 27 scenes... (In April I did 45 LIVE Sex Shows for my website's webcams.. in addition to the paid scenes I did, as well as attending a few Swinger's Parties... and I am still pretty horney) I have been burnt out in a "I am tired, shot till 2 AM, here at 8 AM" days, but a beautiful woman and a fresh pussy to go down on... well, that's never booring to me... I am not saying I have been flawless in all of my performances, I have had bad days before and quite frankly, pathetic days before... every performer has... but stress at home, divorce, being sick, financial issues, injuries, LA traffic, not eating enough/ or too much before a scene can all have their toll. Viagra... Well, I never took Viagra in my 15 plus years of Swinging, 3 years as an Escort, but on my first porn shoot, they said "Did you take your Blue Pill?" just before the scene. I didnt even know Viagra was blue till that day... and since I thought it was kind of required, I took a pill... I used Viagra for my first 100 scenes, because I became afraid to try to do a scene without it.. even though I had the red face, headache, and accourding to my sister who is a nures, a lot of risk, since it's NOT really a safe medication... people DO die from it.... I had a back injury that kept me form working for a few weeks... I took 1,800 mg of Ibuprofin just to be able to walk upright and get my Porn Bag out of my car... that's basically the opposite of Viagra... and guess what... same wood as with it... for some people it works wonders.. for some people it dosnt do much at all... I have heard however you have to be turned on for it to work anyways... By the way, I have never been known for having 'Rockin' Wood' I get hard... do my thing, and that's it... I am not saying I'm the shit or anything.. I just do my job... slightly above average performer level kind of work.. I just work often because the girls enjoy working with me, and I can always pop within a minute or less when it's time to pop... How many guys take Viagra? Well, I have a hard time believing it's 99%... I think there are a lot of Legends that have been performing before Viagra came out who are still healthy and get wood because they love sex... I would guess 60% take Viagra, Cialis, Levetra.. but about 25 % are shooting up their cocks with Caverject (is that how it's spelled?)... that's medication that is injected into your cock... BAD Stuff... it's made for 50,60, 70 year old men who no longer respond to Viagra.. so they have a few years left of sex life... with their wife.. Caverject is painful, unhealthy (because now you have a hole in your cock that's big enough for HIV, germs, bacterial infections, ect to just go right into) It's CHEATING, and the only thing that makes me feel good about it... it will make the user completly impotent in a few years of use.... There are a ton of new really young performers who think nothing of taking Steroids (yeah, I tried them out a few years ago, with mixed results) and they also shoot up their cocks... The directors love them.. they are young, have great bodies and can read the newspaper while the girl takes a pee break with rocking wood.... but these guys would never be able to get wood in front of a camera, big crew and with a woman thats hard or impossible to turn on... it's cheating... but hey, thats the world we live in, and I have to loose work to these guys... all I can do is imaging them at 27 years old, and Impotent... saying how big a Porn Star they WERE back in the day to their dates... There's no way to ban the guys who shoot up their cocks... because the industry isnt tolerent of guys who cost more than a a few minutes per scene TOTAL) getting back up after a break... if 5 scenes a day each had a 5 minute 'down time' then that's 25 minutes later getting onto the LA freeways for the director, cast and crew... and since Caverject came around a few years ago... they would rather get home than wait a few minutes... and you know what... I dont blame 'em.... If I wasnt the one getting laid... I wouldnt want to wait around either... I do hear however that the guys who shoot up their cocks have a harder time trying to pop on que... but thats just what I hear... Arto Del Funko asked about coming too quickly.. well, I have a few tricks... I used to masturbate for a LONG time ... get close to coming... back off a little.. get close.. back off... for an hour or two... getting to know your body is the most important thing... In a scene, sometimes there's Danger Pussy.... out of 500 scenes I have experienced this about 20 times.... so I would break it it... go down on her for a few seconds and back in... or have her Blow me for bit... if that is getting on the director's nerves, I do to a difficult position, like standing missionary... holding all of her weight... so the degree of difficulty goes up... and the stress kicks in, balancing me... or sometimes I will just cound backwards from 2007... and say to myself... year 2007 whats the biggest thing that happened.. then 2006..., then 2005... I have even balanced my checkbook in my head to avoid thinking about how good some of this pussy feels... anything to distract me from the pleasure... Just for the record, when it comes to looks... well, I would rather work with an unattractive performer who is turned on by me... than a Diva with an attitude... when I worked with Tera Patrick last summer, I was pretty uneasy, bacause I assumed that as the number 2 woman in the business that she would be a Diva... but she was actually very sweet and fun to work with... so you never know what you're going to experience when you walk onto a set... other than you're gonna get paid, you're gonna get laid, you're gonna get to orgasm for sure, and maybe, if everything works out allright... end up dating the performer you worked with for days, weeks, months after... I WAS actually married to Annie Cruz for 2 years.. we met in a scene.. I thought it was gonna be a regular scene and it ended up being a 2 year long date... Performers going out for Sushi after a scene, fucking in the shower after the scene, or at eachother's places is a lot more common than people might think... it's all how you treat the ladies... and how much they like you... and again, I am not claiming to be a Cassanova here... I have had my times when I couldnt get a date to save my life! I have a scene tomorrow with a woman I have never met before, just heard that she wanted to do an Anal Scene with me... by request... so life is good... The mind is more powerful than a little pill... I think most of the guys in the business can do this job without a pill or a needle... it's just scary doing your first scene 'unassisted'.. -Jack Lawrence JackLawrenceXXX.com Edited by - JackLawrenceXXX on 6/12/2007 4:21:27 PM [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Jun 12 2007 : 4:30PM Nice post Jack...even a serious cynic like me appreciates your response. But here's the sad part. Even if your conservative estimates are closer to reality than others have posted.... Out of 75 or so "regular" porn cocksmiths out there today.... Only about 11 of those guys are not pimping their cocks with drugs of some kind. No matter how many nubile, young and/or experienced pussies you throw at them. :( [Link]
Pagoda Senior Member Thread Killer 1747 Posts 10/05	Posted - Jun 12 2007 : 5:14PM Jack, I'm so happy you've joined ADT. No wonder the ladies love you. I'm smitten. In regards to the topic, I work on the retail side of the industry, and I've gotten jaded just by that. I'm surrounded by pornographic images everyday, so much that I don't even see it anymore. It's the rare performer that gains my interest, and even rarer that gains my enthusiasm. And that's just as a viewer. I can't even imagine how difficult it must be for some of the men in the porn industry. I get bored just watching half these lifeless girls. And if they're boring on camera, imagine how boring they are off camera. There's two major problems I see with the industry. One is the extreme youth of the females. Regardless of their number of sexual experiences, it's the rare female that's reached true womanhood by age 21. Simply because a girl has had a vast array of sexual encounters, doesn't mean she's a woman. It takes some life experience to know herself and figure out who she is and what she wants before she can claim to be a woman. Some women mature faster than others (Mia Rose and Sasha Grey come to mind), but as a female viewer, I'm constantly reminded of how young these girls really are. Some of them are paired with spectacular male talent, and if they only knew how fortunate they were, they'd relish the experience on camera and make the most of their good fortune. Second, is the constant pursuit of the newest, freshest scenes. This bullshit about girls becoming "shot out" absolutely sucks. Pornographers seem to think that pairing the same b/g talent more than once is a financial mistake. I disagree, particularly if the industry is remotely interested in tapping the deep pockets of the female consumer. In my experience, most women want to see combustible chemistry, not athleticism. If a particular pair visibly hits it off on screen, I think that combination should be repeated as long as those two performers dig each other. But you rarely see the same b/g combo working together more than a few times. This is a mistake, in my opinion. Very short-sighted on the side of the industry. Just as the girls have their "will work with" lists, I think the men should have the same. Why not cast a couple that have reliable chemistry? Can that really hurt the bottom line? [Link]
mariac221 Member 183 Posts 7/05	Posted - Jun 12 2007 : 6:59PM Jack is a very nice guy had a grate time with him at adult con Im still telling the stroy to all my frinds I will never forget my frist adult con [Link]
Arto Del Funko Deactivated User insert something clever here 42 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jun 13 2007 : 6:06AM very informative post there, Mr. Jack. i wonder is there any truth in the rumour that Viagra can "detach" a guy so he lasts a lot longer? it would be nice to concentrate on how good she feels without having to recite the 52 states backwards just to distract yourself :-) [Link]
JackLawrenceXXX Member "A day without the Intimate Juices of a Woman... is like a day without sunshine!" 26 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jun 13 2007 : 9:41AM Pagota, I agree with you about the 21 year old thing... my spin is that most of the under 21 porn stars are not women yet.. their bodies may be there, they may be sexually open , but emotionally they just havent found themselves yet... for a woman (and this is a man's opinion) I think the three biggest years of emotional developement are from 18 to 21... prime years for porn.. but those years should be set aside for dating, a relationship or two... and looking inward... Sadly I work with these women 130 times a year... and most of them are in Sexual Competition... if they only knew what lust was! Personally I usually only date women in their 30's and 40's.... I'll forgive a wrinkle or a pound for a woman who knows who she is... P.S. My statement is a blanket statement... there ARE women in the 18 to 21 range who are amazingly 'together' for their age, and I have seriously dated some of them... but most shouldnt be in porn... it's only directors who dont see into their eyes on set... who just see them as a body to exploit that's all.. most of them fave fallen into the trap of 'I fuck better than her.. I make more money... look at my $600.00 purse... Sidekick with little fake diamonds glued all over it RINGS "Hold on, it's (insert biggest celebrity of the day here) calling... no, I think I'll make him work for this" Welp, I gotta get my day on... have an Anal Scene to do.. ;-) -Jack Lawrence JackLawrenceXXX.com [Link]