Pornstars would have grounds to charge extra for a first scene like that if most porn consumers considered scenes with nastier dudes to be such a dirtier/higher step on the porn ladder compared to regular porn dudes that after they'd done such a scene you'd no longer be as interested in her tamer ones, which is what happens with things like a first anal. But most porn viewers wouldn't even know or care that she'd performed a scene with a much nastier dude (sadly).

At the risk of going offtopic, since this is such a small niche maybe you could share your sources for scenes that play up the contrast between the woman's beauty and the man's lack of it?

https://www.oldje.com/
https://grandpasfuckteens.21sextreme.com/
https://www.theminion.com/tour/
https://heavyonhotties.com/

I know there are some japanese dvds dedicated to this niche, will try to find the codes.

Edited by - hoochimama on 9/23/2020 4:11:00 PM

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As for very ugly/fat guys, well i guess it can be seen as some "humiliation porn" in a way. The hot girl wanted the cash, so she did it despite being repulsed by the guy. I would like to see more of these ugly dudes in scenes based on "unwilling" act. You know like the whole "step sister forced to fuck step brother because otherwise he will tell whatever". I seen some great scenes like this at times, where the performers really play well the act of having to do it against their will (Charlee Chase especially i think with was for headbobbers and handjobbers) but the issue is often the guy look too good with his big dick, kinda kill the concept in a way.

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From what I've seen the grandpa scenes don't seem to be too humiliating because the girl (pretends to be) into it.

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His whole schtick is to act like a hungry wolf that can't get enough of these girls by hugging them, licking, kissing, sucking every inch of them, trying to absorb and merge into them, worship and defile them. The girls who were seemingly just expecting to go through the mechanical motions of another BG routine are often caught offguard by his performance of a horny man actually enjoying every inch of and every second with a beautiful woman's body and their surprised reaction is priceless. I find it works particularly well with glam-looking "2 pretty 4 porn" chicks, like when he sucks on Nathaly Heaven's nose.

But the way he acts is only part of the equation, another part is the way he is made to look in his scenes. Notice that nearly all his previews have full body shots of him standing next to the girl, you don't usually see that in porn and the point is to contrast his body with the girl's. His big, fat, rough body next to the woman's fine traits. The woman's feminine beauty with his lack of it. It's meant to show you beauty & the beast, and how the beast is going to have so much fun. Unlike vanilla scenes where males (including fat ones) are usually just interchangeable stuntdicks, his appearance actually matters to what the scene is conveying.

That's not to say that he's actually repulsive or anything, outside of the scene he'd look like an average dude, and the chicks would mostly look average too. But his scenes/lighting/angles/makeup are set up to make the girls look like a million bucks, really ham up their beauty putting them up on a pedestal and further enhanced by contrasting it with the lowly big fat beast next to them. This is very different from something like Woodman where despite being a fat, bald older dude doesn't try to play it up nor take advantage of it, acting like another stuntdick, while not doing the girl's beauty any favors with the flat light and deer in the headlights routine (and interviews where it feels like they were sent to the principal's office). It's also different from the minion, who did try to make the dude look extra with the food stuff but it also marred the women's beauty.

And some japanese examples:
KAWD-807
KAWD-799
SNIS-577

Edited by - hoochimama on 3/2/2021 6:27:56 PM

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Getting old sucks.....

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https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=ozito/gender=m/ozito.htm

Edited by - hoochimama on 10/24/2020 11:58:50 AM

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I could be wrong but I don't think these scenes will generally pay more than a scene with a younger more attractive guy.

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There's lots of potential here in the world of geezer-boink, with unique plotlines and scene hooks. What I'm looking for is the kind of scene where his dick falls out but he keeps on thrusting until she falls off of the couch without him noticing as he keeps banging away at the couch cushion while she slowly edges her way out of the room into the kitchen where she sees some haggis and becomes aroused and simply has to try that too, just like she had to try the old man. They both end the scene passed out on the floor for different reasons. Also, short term memory loss has never been so hot: for example, she bangs him for a high stakes reward and then afterwards she slowly realizes he's forgotten ever agreeing to that quid pro quo deal, and then as they argue over that he forgets they just had sex at all! Then as she leaves in a huff we see him crack a grin.
A new twist on the sex scoundrel motif.

I didn't always see the value in niche material. Like the foot stuff. God loves the foot people, I just don't get that toe business. But give me some hottie having to deal with ancient nard, and now you've really got something. It's like a mid-range hot pepper challenge; the fun is in seeing if everyone involved (including me) can handle this boink without busting up and bailing out. Eh. Keeps me more awake than some other porn categories.

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