Do the Adult industry listen to fans requests or comments as to what pornstars they will like to see paired together or the type of sex act they will like to see a pornstar perform? If so where can a fan post their request?
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Alfredo92 Deactivated User
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 4:44AM
Best bet is to go to your favorite adult video production website and see if they got an email address for their fans.
What influences decisions in this industry is the kind of product that currently draws the $$$. Your comments may elicit a polite "Thanks for your interest and your suggestions." But, seriously, don't expect them to wield any more influence than if you requested Wolfgang Puck to alter the recipes used in his restaurants in favor of your preferences.
Brandon Iron never took one request for certain girls for the TLP serie very seriously simply because he didn't want to shoot those girls for that serie. He always said those girls are to well known and he only/mostly wants to shoot newcummers. Fair enough I guess because I understand a director will always shoot the scenes/girls he wants not what the fans want. Eventhough that sucks and it's hard to accept I know this is a fact. I mean if we want to control that more we should become directors ourselves and shoot the porn we want with girls we want.
Of course sometimes you get lucky like my request to Juan Cuba about casting Trina Michaels in a volume of Alone in the Dark. Maybe he was planning to do that anyway since she's only the hottest girl in porn but I like to believe I helped him with that ;-)
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 9:52AM
Quite a few porn "directors" are anxious to please, and if they see a groundswell of support for specific talent, they're going to try to book her. If you think most of these guys are holding some illusion of artistic integrity, you're kidding yourselves. The women themselves also have to consider what the fans want from them, because that's how they'll stay active.
Ramsey, you totally had something to do with Trina for "ALONE IN THE DARK" I thought about shooting her but reading your thread on how much you would like to see her and not only you but a few other fans of hers made it more easy for me to cast her and she was amazing! Am still a fan a rent video's at least twice a week, and if I new about this forum before i got into the biz and would have made many request to directors. So yes we do listen and try our best to please you guys. Later Juan Cuba
Ramsey: After self-financing 9 volumes of a foot series that featured 10 girls in each volume (not including bonus scenes) and 3 volumes which were double disc issues, I am very sad that you couldn't enjoy any of the girls. 900 toes were offered for your viewing pleasure yet not a single one appealed to you. Fine. That's your right. You've complained ad nauseum with enough volume as if I dropped an anvil on your feet. I am sure that listening to you would have made me a commercial success and that I would not have faced the reality of selling the movies for as little as $3. As astute at mathematics are you are, of course, you'd realize that:
Selling a movie for $3 minus being charged $1 per disc ($2 for a double disc set) minus the cost of the packaging/insert less the distribution percentage (25%) equals a situation that stinks worse than socks that haven't been changed in a week.
Factor in the costs of making the movie, editing (unless you do it yourself), dvd insert graphic design, printing, dvd authoring and replicating.
I have bigger things to worry about than disappointing you, don't you agree?
I'm glad to read this Juan Cuba, being this HUGE Trina Michaels fan I can't request her enough. For me Trina Michaels will go in history as the greatest ever!
Btw, I once made a personal request to Van Damage if he will shoot some feet-stuff of Bridgette Kerkove when he was ready to shoot Sandwich of Love back in 1999 but after the shoot he wrote me that Bridgette didn't want him to shoot her feet because she had some kind of inferior complex when it came to her feet :-(
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 3:14PM
Considering the number of directors who are members here it certainly doesn't hurt to post your requests. Those are just the registered members. I'm sure there are others who read the forum but have not registered to post.
I think I made a list of around 20 girls who I would have loved to see in the TLP serie and not even 1 made it in your serie, yeah I guess you could call that a little disappointing ;-)
Industry types have been responsive in here as far as I'm concerned.
I will never forget one of the most electric experiences in my life with porn, was when Thom Zupko came in here and asked us who and what we wanted for "Big Wet Asses 4", and when that movie came out, it directly reflected the discussions we had in here.
I know that Van Styles has made things based upon our input. Justin Slayer, (via Nevaquit), has made things based upon our input. Jack Napier has made things based upon our input. And I know that the other directors, (Brandon, Chico, Von Swine, Bryan Xin, and others), and publicists, (Graham, Tricia, the people from Smash, the guys from Zero Tolerance, Devils Films, and others), have all been amenable to our ideas and input.
This, and a couple of other forums have been good for that.
I think that porn, like any industry, would listen to page after page of fans all clamoring for the exact same thing.
Now, please show me a thread where that's the case, here or on any other board. Most threads have maybe a 60/40 split of "Love this" vs. "Can't stand this."
More likely, they watch what's selling and then copy it, perhaps with a twist of their own and try to portray it as something new.
That's why I get a chuckle out of everyone who talks about how much $$$ can be made in porn versus the "real world." If the porn producers were as rich as mainstream businessmen, you'd see all kinds of new stuff pioneered purely for the artistic ego factor. Instead, they create what offers them the best chance at a return on investment because they NEED the money.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 6:23PM
3$ a unit? That is incredible at my local store BD and AGSOI sell for $40, I guess the store is taking high margin because they sell few, I don't know. I just think the net is where the money is, not DVD's anymore. Cuts out so much cost.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
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Posted - May 27 2007 : 6:23PM
thats why it was very smart for BI to move online.
I think, to an extent, they probably try. But really...if you read this forum over a long period of time, you realize it's impossible. There are just way too many polar opposites - People demanding way too many very specific things that everyone else would have no interest in seeing. I just don't think the average smut producer would have the resources to even try.....even if they had the inclination. I also think the average smut producer works for their own reasons. It might be profit or they might have a particular kind of smut they want to make. Whatever it is, in all honesty, they don't have an obligation to make what we want. If we don't like what they make, we don't have to keep buying it.
And really, it works out much better if they make what they like. If they ain't digging what they're making, it's (likely) going to be a dull, tedious experience for the consumer (And probably the people making it as well).
EDIT - Think of it this way. Imagine a musical cover band on a stage asking the audience if there's anything in particular they'd like to hear. Now imagine there are 15,000 people in the audience and every one of them is shouting the name of a different song. They couldn't satisfy everyone if they played for the rest of their lives.
Edited by - randomprecision on 5/27/2007 7:30:06 PM
As long as BSD remains a member here it seems my post count will be virtually cut in half as he almost always (perfectly and much more tactfully) answers most questions with my proposed responses.
That's a great way to put it. There is so much out there that does satisfy me it hardly matters anyway. I've suggested certain things like a fully clothed cumshot or the surprise cumshot - eh, I don't really think any one has gotten around to it yet but maybe one of my favorite directors will someday.
I remember the members of Avy Scott's yahoo group were all dying to see her fuck Mandingo. So, Avy promised them she would, and she made good on that promise in "Big Black Beast".
I always sorry Nevaquit never filled my request about making Richard Mann a JSP regular. This was before Richard Mann signed with Hush Hush. Richard Mann could have brought back the BPL heat we use to know from JSP before Nat Turner joined the crew. At least Hush Hush was smart to enough to give Richard Mann his own serie and it's great!
My next mission: Sasha Grey and Gianna in a volume of Alone in the Dark :-)
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Posted - May 28 2007 : 2:41PM
For the record, I only listen to posts without spelling or grammar mistakes. So don't forget to spell check your responses. I guess I'll be lenient on grammar mistakes from people who don't natively speak English. :)
We read every email we get. We try and get as much fan feedback as possible. We are always open to construtive critisim.
But some you obviously have to take with a grain of salt.
For example: Hey Shane's World ... it would be great if you could get Jenna to do interracial double anal in your next movie ... PLEASE!PLEASE!
Obviously not possible LOL
I think a lot of studios are open to suggestions if they are suggested correctly. So remember to think out your suggestions before email/posting a thread. Usually you will get a reply via email explaing that they think it's a great idea, or why it wouldn't work. Either way ... it's appreciated that you care that much to take the time to make the suggestion.
Here in Holland English is our second language so I have no problem with the language so my request for Evil Angel would be: please release Salsa Break and The Legend of Reggie D. on DVD :-)
Ducati Productions not only listens to feedback but also has gone out to seek it in various places such as this board and yahoo groups. We have made numerous changes to how and what we shoot directly based on the feedback we get from you. We always encourage you to give us feedback, good or bad. Part of our business operations is reading through boards like this to keep current on what you all are getting off to and what you aren't.
It is our firm belief that the continued strength of our sales is because of the changes we have made based on your feedback. After five years of releasing DVD's we have yet to release any compilations and are still selling our first titles at full price.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
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Posted - May 30 2007 : 3:11AM
Tricia- Would your company consider giving Brandon Iron a deal? He is very popular as shown by the respons to the BD and AGSOI threads. I think he would be a great addition since his stuff isn't like anybody elses. Thanks for your time.
You should post your request here in adultdvdtalk forum. There are some directors and producers that listen what the people wants to see. Two examples: After we request a winking butthole serie, Jaysin released Winkers . After i suggest a different way to administer the enemas in Blow it out your ass Graham and William H release Blow It Out Your Ass 2.
So i can affirm that Jaysin, Graham and William H listen to the people.
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ragingbull Deactivated User
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Posted - May 31 2007 : 3:53AM
Fair enough, thanks for your response. Maybe Brandon wil respond as such. I do think it is a good fit. He wants an honest ownership deal and your company is known for honesty and ownership so it should be a win, win.
This is a tough question, for while I feel that most listen to customer requests, they SELDOM "cum-through." Some cases in point: Bobby Rinaldi at Wildlife "always" puts in his productions a message, "let us hear from you, we value your comments," or something close to those words. Falling into the "TRAP," I have written to Rinaldi on two separate ocassions, and have YET to hear from him, or for that matter, seen my request for the women in his "Screw My Husband/Wife" series, to be filmed lighting up and smoking cigarettes during personal interviews, etc as sexy preludes to the sexual action----NADA!! A second example, deals with Pat Myne, aka Danny Case, an adult film director for Third Degree and other companies, whom I visited with in Dallas a little over two years ago, when he was still married to Stormy Daniels, and playing the "gofer" role, during her DYNAMIC feature dance performance at a local gentlemen's club. Between Stormy's dance sets, and over several beers (which I bought for him) I brought up AGAIN, my request, on behalf of the HUGE, and, thanx to the "antis," ever-growing "smokerhood," (the coined term, describing we men, who get a strong sexual surge (a boner) just in seeing ANY attractive, well-built lady, smoking a cigarette. Now, I must admit, that while, I was "encouraged" by Myne's positive response, to my request, for set-up "tease" female smoking scenarios, I know now, Myne, was actually "blowing smoke up my ass," for I have seen quite a few of Myne/Case films since that time, and again, NADA!! Finally, and to illustrate just how HARD I have been working for our smokerhood cause, in addition to Rinaldi, I have written, or visited personally, with quite a few adult film directors, performers, and even, company front-office PR men over the years, and AGAIN, received POSITIVE feed-back, but in reality, VERY LIMITED results?? In point of fact, sexy female cigarette smoking scenarios, occur in adult films today, with about the Same frequency, as on the DiSNEY channel!!--sadly, for our smokerhood, a fact of life...
Thanx, for that, "off-hand" kudo: I do realize, that my "rant of posts," on behalf of our smokerhood, can get a bit annoying, and I do apologize for that. But, please realize, adult film producers and directors, as well as female performers, do not visit ADT on a regular basis. So, its a "hit or miss," situation, with every post, and maybe, just maybe, one of these "rants" will reach the RIGHT person, and hit the RIGHT chord, and then, my mission will be over, as plenty of extremely sexy, well-built WOMEN, will light-up their cigarettes (and our loins) on a regular basis, in porn, feature film and gonzo screen appearances. I know I've written this many times before here on ADT, but It continues to amaze me, why adult film directors and producers, SELDOM incorporate the cigarette prop, as a most valuable tool to accentuate the sexuality, as well as so many other character traits, of various, female screen characters. Main-stream Hollywood, has used this cinematic technique for decades, especially, with the "femme fatale" persona, and, many of you reading this, surely remember, all those, slick, glossy movie posters, which more often than not, displayed the sexy, female star, dangling a cigarette between her luscious, red lips. To be sure, in recent years, main-screen Hollywood has been influenced by, what I call, the "Smoke Nazis," seeking, with their "jack boots," to stomp out cigarettes all over America, but that influence is NOTHING compared to what has happened with the "steam screen," where the sight of a good-looking, well-built lady, lighting up her cigarette, in some, sexy character role, a behind the scene interview, or in gonzo "tease" scenarios, is more of a rarity, nowadays, than is, two dollar a gallon gasoline!!