I hope some adt females can help me understand this. ...I´m having this great sex sessions with a girl I met. Since I know her for such short period of time (3months) we always use condoms for vaginal and oral sex. ..The thing is that lately we are getting so much into each other that the idea of getting rid of the rubber has past my mind, but the idea of getting std makes me hold my horses every time. ..The last time I saw her she was totally willing for no condom sex (maybe she trust me now I don´t know)..she was so exciting than I went for it, but after 5 seconds inside her I took it out I couldn´t do it, even thou it felt so good without rubber something in the back of my head screams to me ¨wally get out of there what are you doing!)(so I did)....Clearly she didn´t like when I took it out so fast, I used the excuse that I din´t want to cum too fast but she didn´t buy it. ...somehow I made her forget all about it (I think) and we still had great sex the rest of the night (I think) she stayed until 8 o´clock in the morning (the no condom incident happened about 1:30 am) ....What happen is that since then I can´t help to think that some how I fucked up. That I could had handle the situation a little better. ..That the night could had been even better that it was. ....That maybe she got offended when I took out so fast, I don´t know....so my question to the adt females...would you feel offended if a guy you like does the same thing to you? ..and more important, as with the guys, do you feel a big difference when I guy use a condom and when he does not?? ....if you have sex with a guy you like will condoms be a little of a turn off or you just feel the same?? ..in your experience what´s the difference?? ...I hope next time I see this girl I´m talking about I handle things better.
btw, and this is for the guys. Have any of you faced this kind of situation, where a girl you are going out with for some time is willing to no condom sex in lets say, the meeting #9 and you didn´t went for it?? ...how did you handled it? ..if you want to do it (no rubber), what will in your opinion be the best way to approach the subject? ..asking someone for a blood test right out of the bat is a little uncomfortable, wouldn´t you say? ..I definitely do not want to loose this girl, she is too fucking hot. I don´t think is gonna happen but the relationship has grown little by little since the first time we met. I would like to keep it on growing and good sex is a big part of it
There is a much-discussed study that seems to indicate that women who have direct contact with semen are less depressed than those who do not.
Basically, the theory is that certain chemical compounds (such as testosterone) may be responsible for this. The study took into other factors and ruled out age, salary, diet, oral contraceptive use, etc.
Here's one article about the study from Salon.com. If you Google for "semen depression" you will find plenty of more links to this.
This girl I´m seeing definitelly doesn´t suffer from any kind of depression, let me tell you [:)) ..One thing is for sure even if I do it without a condom (man, I really would like to do it) I defintely not cumming inside her, you know to avoid future complication that might arise, if you know what I mean. ..what I´m more interested is into knowing if girls can have exactly the same feeling when I guy penetrate her without condom as opose to condoms?? ..If a guy get her from behind, could she tell if he is using protection or not?? .if they can tell, how diffrent is the feeling for her??
Since pregnancy or any other 'bonuses' are definitely NOT on the agenda for me condoms are a must and I will not compromise on that.
The only way I would forgo condoms is if I knew he was fixed and I was in a long term monogamous relationship and knew with 100% certainty that I wouldn't catch anything.
I can count the number of times I've had sex without a condom on my fingers and I can't honestly say I can feel any difference (I'm sure there is a difference but I'd have to compare side by side). There is definitely a difference when he comes inside me and while I do love the feeling the risk is too great.
I'm a little curious about why your girlfriend is so keen for you to not wear a condom. What are you doing for contraceptive? I have a friend who was so flattered and delighted when his girlfriend wanted him without a condom he didn't even question it. Ooops! One month later he was dumped, she was pregnant and now he's paying regular child support. He gets to see the kid once a month if he's lucky.
Maybe your instincts are telling you something here - be very certain you're not being set up to be a sperm and money donor.
I must point out that the withdrawal method does not prevent against pregancy or STIs. Since I had to bring this up, frankly I suggest you read a basic guide on safer sex.
As far as I can tell, women say that sex without condoms feels better than sex with condoms, but the women I have dealt with do not feel that this increase in pleasure justifies increased risk in health complications in non-monogamous or short-term relationships.
Risk assessment is something everyone deals with on an individual basis, whether it's something like using a cellphone while driving, ordering the salad bar, or having sex without protection.
It is important that the two of you have educated yourselves about sex and jointly make the decision since serious health complications can result.
Hmm...In a sober state, I would've resented the time I'd spent carefully and respectfully crafting a reply, only to have it swirl off into the depths of cyber-obscurity.
Not being sober (in honor of New Year's Day, a bottle of champagne, and more bizarre personal travails than I will ever reveal), I will humbly give homage to Lunacy, a true ADT-demi-goddess:
so there isn´t much diference on the feeling of condoms or not condoms, eh girls? ...about being set up, ..well I can´t speak for the girl but I have always been very, very careful about no cumming inside all my life. That's why I´m in my late 30s and have no children (that I know of)...about the girl been so keen in me no wearing condoms..it isn´t like that, it is something that happened gradually...without talking about it we both came to this conclusion little by little, it was bound to happen sooner or later, it happened sooner, the only thing is I chicken out as soon as I was inside her for some reason.. like you say, maybe my instinct is telling me something. ...the question is..how do you make sure your partner in bed is totally clean? ..I know a blood test is the best way but there must be a more gentile way to make sure you go with some peace of mind when you go ¨in there¨ ...btw, next time I see this girl (I hope) ..I gonna try the condoms on her fingers thing, sounds like fun
The blood test is not the "best way", it's the only way.
Many STIs are asymptomatic; you could have something and not even know it and be infecting others (including, but not limited to HIV). You should suggest to your friend to take the blood test together.
Again, due to the questions you've been asking, I highly advise you to find and read a basic safer sex guide and to consult healthcare professionals (e.g., a doctor) about such matters.
The only difference I can feel inside with a male condom is a slight (VERY SLIGHT) lack of heat transmission. I can feel the difference in texture on the outside, but it isn't unpleasant, just different. The most significant downside of male condoms to me is that they dry out quickly and rub me raw. More lube is okay, but I'm not crazy about it and it's disruptive.
I have recently switched to female condoms and I really, really, really like them. The only downside is that some guys think they look/sound too weird. I have no problems with them at all.
My g/f and I have been together for about 3 1/2 years. For probably I would say the first 6-8 mths of the relationship I always used a condom. She was also on the pill at that time. One night she said try it without the condom. I had at this point never came in her even with a condom on. From that point on I havent used a condom with her, she is still on the pill though. I still dont ever cum inside of her, but to me there was a big difference in feeling between the condom, and without it..but that is just my personal experience.
After saying all that though...I would wear a condom with whoever I was with unless it was a monogmous, serious relationship like I have now(we are soon getting married)
I haven't had any slip out. They behave just like a diaphram (for those of you who have used one or had a partner who has used one).
No breakage at all - they are MUCH tougher to break than the male condoms. I pulled and tugged and poked at one to find out - it didn't break and I was TRYING to break it.
They make a squishy sound. Not a queefing air sound, just a wet squishy noise. Go get a sandwich baggie and put some lube in it and swish it against itself a few times, that would give you an idea. It actually sounds more "natural" to me than a dry fuck with a male condom, but who am I to know?
Tony - I don't like Eros Bodyglide, that stuff is nasty. I don't like any of those superslick lubes - they feel gross and greasy to me. Freakin' wash for an hour trying to get the feel of them off. Nasty!
Sad world we live in..... to have to both have blood tests to be able to have natural sex, but that is the way it is!! I am now in a long term relationship, we are both "clean", and I have had surgery to ensure no kids....so the sex is "au naturel" and great!!! About the only time in the past when I can say with certainty that I felt any difference between a condom cloaked cock and a naked cock was if the guy was uncut, then the difference is very noticeable and more pleasureable without. Otherwise, as long as the slipptivity was there, it was the same.
My wife was similarly disposed towards Eros Bodyglide until I showed her how its uniquie properties make it a wonderful alternative to massage oil. Now we go through it by the quart.
I've had it dumped on me before, too. ICK!! ICK!! GET IT OFF!! ICK!! The only types of massage oils I like on me are veggie oil based (olive oil, almond oil) and soak in and go away. I don't like anything that sits on top of my skin and feels slick. GROSS! I dislike it even more in my intimate areas. Slimey labia feels like a disease condition not sexy.
Yeah, I couldn't stand me for more than a couple hours, either. I mean, I'm really cool and all, but man, I'd get boring in a hurry! I just don't like anything weird, do I? <sigh>
...it really sucks...they say you can get stds from french kissing also, so what´s left? ...to not touch the girl in any way or form and just penetrate her like a robot!? ...fuck, porn people are already doing that shit and I´m definitely not a porn guy. I´m a hot blooded latin lover that refuse to give up something like just kissing the object of my lust.
Is this gender discrimination????Ok Wally, one time (many moons ago) I felt the same urge as you, and was also deathly afraid of STD's. So I suggested to the girl that we make a pact to be "safe sex partners", we both went to the clinic and were tested for STD's. Then we agreed to have condomless sex only with each other. It worked great for years!!! Not only did it protect me but it protected her too as long as we trusted each other. That's my two male perspective unsolicited two cents.
Bisexual, Ass Creampie Nymphomaniac, UK 130 Posts 11/04
Posted - Jan 9 2005 : 3:55PM
When I know it definitely safe, then no condoms otherwise getting something like AIDS just isn't worth it. I haven't had straight sex in a while so it's not too much of a problem for me.
I love lesbians, but lesbians don't love me. Instead of hating me for what I am, why can we not join forces and help each other meet the common goal. By lesbians, I am not referring to natives of the Isle of Lesbos.
...hey Eagle thanks for your comments, I really appreciate it. ..About the girl I was talking about, we had the conversation and she check herself out from time to time (she is not saint, neither am I)...besides if I want to fuck a saint of a girl I´ll look for a num and I definitelly not that kinky. ...the question is, do I need the piece of paper right on my face?? ...I would like to, but you have to learn to trust people some times. ...I still not doing it without condoms with her but we are kissing alot and yes I got a couple of bjs without rubber (yes I know it is still risky) ...but her mouth looks healthy to me, and I´m saying this after I checked her mouth like I used to do with dogs and cats ...and not she didn´t know what I was doing actually she tought I was just playing.....(I know I´m not a MD but it was fun to check her out like she was a Poodle ...To be honest I´m going for the piece of paper anyway. But one thing is for sure if you distrust a person even a piece of paper won´t be enough. A piece of paper can be faked too, you know. ...One thing about the girl, I forgot that women can be very resistent in bed. ..I am one of those guys that likes to see the girl cumming before even think of myself doing that....What happen is that a girl can be able to have an orgasm many, many times in one night ...and for a guy make it possible, he has to learn to hold it in for as long as he can. Boy, oh boy! ..I´m not complainning, actually, I love it, but the fuck nights get into days some times....last time I saw her we met on a sunday afternoon and said goodbye on a monday night....No sleep and we barely stop to eat some grapes and that's it....We are loosing a few pounds every time we see each other....I think this kind of ¨relationship¨ is what really going to kill me..but if it is, I´ll say: ..Kill me....kill me girl!!
Posted - Dec 31 2004 : 4:02PM