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Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Feb 23 2021 : 1:59PM
There are now 2 UHD Blu-ray releases.
lex von v
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Posted - Feb 23 2021 : 4:01PM
Yeah, but we don't know how large are current DVD runs? On the notorious mikesouth page about 1-2 years ago I read a comment from Mike South himself accusing John Stagliano of doing it all wrong businesswise, yada yada etc., but the gist of it was that he put out there the statement that even Evil Angel DVDs are now only sold in the lower thousands. If that number remotely holds true, I don't know how many BDs then would be sold.

snufish
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Posted - Feb 23 2021 : 5:48PM
Yes, even Brandon Iron (rip) said he only sold 200 copies of a title back in 2010. The BD numbers would be low. If done in smaller quantities than 5000 it would cost about $3-$8 per disc. With EA, there's competition from their VOD & download site. Couple ways to try to beat it would be lower prices ($10-$20), format exclusivity and releasing older titles. Putting 2-5 movies on one dual layer disc would be good as well. If buyers are okay with 4500 Mbps DVD then they'll be okay with 12000 Mbps BD.
kronas77
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Posted - Mar 5 2021 : 10:47AM


Edited by - kronas77 on 3/27/2021 12:29:49 AM

 
snufish
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Big_Tits_Addict
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Posted - Aug 28 2021 : 11:20PM
As a collector of physical media I recently looked for some 18+ Blu-rays I might want to buy and found nothing of interest.

Kind of sad that even niche foreign films and lesser known anime shows licensed by small publishers (titles that might only sell a couple thousand copies before going OOP) will pay Blu-ray production costs (not bother with a DVD release) and still make a profit but the format has been pretty much abandoned by the US adult industry.

With HD streaming and downloads companies would rather cut costs and have instant profit.

Every major Hollywood studio has their own streaming service now and are still releasing their new and older titles on Blu-ray.

I'm not saying everything shot in HD should be released on BD, but are porn companies so frugal and impatient they can't see the value in releasing compilation "showcases" of past scenes for some of the more popular performers with large fanbases who will pay? Technically no reason to buy a DVD with its inferior quality but these are still considered collector's items to some fans who want their copy signed by their favorite stars at expos and conventions; physical proof they paid for their porn.

These companies have the DVD sales and streaming/download data. If they want to reduce risk why not engage more with their subscribers and ask members if they would at least pre-order a potential Blu-ray release. Nothing is charged until it ships, if there aren't enough pre-orders then don't go through with making the discs.

Have it be exclusively sold with a specific retailer that can sell worldwide for a reasonable shipping cost (obviously the BD should be region free)

This is basically how every non-porn company determines how many limited edition copies to print (e.g. steelbook) so vast amounts of copies aren't still being sold decades later. Print as many copies as there are pre-orders then on release day everything is sold and gone = guaranteed profit

Maybe part of the format's demise is very few in the porn industry even know how to make an above average Blu-ray disc. Vaguely remember reading that they received no help from Blu-ray Disc Association and Sony. I haven't found many reviews but wouldn't be surprised if most had lossy audio and poor compression instead of making the Blu-ray look and sound as good as it could.

In 2021 most porn companies still can't even release a decent DVD that doesn't have too many scenes stuffed onto it resulting in compression artifacts and other issues. "Shot in HD" means nothing if you don't know how to utilize disc space properly and give the video quality a healthy bitrate.

Nobody is expecting anything fancy like Dolby Atmos sound or even 5.1 audio. Lossless LPCM 2.0 is fine and a reasonable expectation. Companies are cheap and would rather not have to pay extra licensing fees to Dolby or DTS.

Instead of being rivals for better longterm health they should consider an industry wide partnership and have one manufacturer/replicator they will use for their single Blu-ray license. The cost is split evenly so no one studio shoulders a larger cost they can't risk. They can still be independent and release their low quality DVDs separately.

If the porn industry would rather leave potential sales on the table then they have no excuse to whine and cry later if a new publisher comes along, licenses scenes from various studios and succeeds in selling Blu-ray.

I half expect a random Japanese company to release more US scenes on Blu-ray. Might be censored but at least Japan and North America are Region A. Some hardcore collectors might reverse import those discs.

Only took decades for everyone else to realize Netflix's appeal of having content from everybody and original programming. Now they're all playing catch up taking back their own content and creating their own originals.

Edited by - Big_Tits_Addict on 8/28/2021 11:26:15 PM

snufish
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Posted - Aug 29 2021 : 1:19PM
Sorry bro, it's dead. It's not coming back. Digital playground, elegant angel, hustler, vivid have all abandoned the format. The consumers don't want it, can't afford it. Horror, anime, foreign titles can make it on BD because they have a fan base that will buy it, they're not being competed against by free sites, piracy sites or $30 a month all you can download buffet membership sites. What they should do is increase the bitrates and stop compressing so much, more compression means the CPU has to do more work to decompress.

Be well

Edited by - snufish on 9/7/2021 9:06:57 PM

Big_Tits_Addict
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Posted - Sep 22 2021 : 10:06PM
It's unlikely to happen because costs are even higher than 1080p (2K) Blu-ray but I'm curious if a studio would ever release at least one 4K UHD Blu-ray release just so they can say they were the first (and maybe only?) porn studio to ever release their content on the format.

Probably too much ego/pride involved but if these studios are too cheap for even regular Blu-ray why not crowdfund the production/replication costs on kickstarter or indiegogo or gofundme or a platform that aren't prudes?

18+ content technically might not be allowed on most of those platforms but if an indie project like Subverse can raise over a million British pounds, you have so little faith in your own content you can't find enough supporters to raise 10k?

If fans pledge a certain amount they get a free Blu-ray shipped to them.

Pledge more and you get input on what existing scenes you want included as a priority

Thousands of followers on social media but I guess they're all empty stats huh?

Take the Vixen Media Group approach and ask fans for requests/suggestions of who to shoot but never actually read/listen to them.

Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 22 2021 : 10:58PM
There are 2 adult UHD Blu-ray releases already.
Big_Tits_Addict
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Posted - Sep 22 2021 : 11:08PM
Links or title names?

If they're Blu-ray + digital 4K I wouldn't consider those proper UHD BD releases (BD-66 or BD-100)

snufish
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Posted - Sep 23 2021 : 10:16AM
It's not a money thing, the format has been around long enough for even the smallest studio to save up the money and it was much more expensive back in 09/10. Of course, there's the BD-r option even for UHD. Hollywood is throwing their back catalog to BD/UHD/VOD while porn is throwing their back catalog to DVD/VOD only.

Be well

Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 23 2021 : 10:29AM
I forget the name of the first one that came out. I think it was through Alive (a foreign distributor) and yes it had a UHD Blu-ray as part of the set.
The second one is SexWorld from Vinegar Syndrome (and yes it has a UHD Blu-ray as part of the set).
T-Bone the Disco Spider
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Posted - Sep 23 2021 : 2:08PM
I forget his name but a few months ago I saw a post by someone on this site who has an online porn store. He says that he *literally* loses over 1,000 titles a day because some of his movies are out of stock at the distributor and there's no one else to buy them from. So if that's the situation with DVDs, what's so special about Blu-Ray that will allow it to overcome this?
a9nostic
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Posted - Sep 23 2021 : 8:08PM
No. Technology moves forward, not backwards.
 
Secret Guy
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Posted - Sep 24 2021 : 7:17PM
^ When it comes to the best viewing experience, 4K Blu Ray beats streaming. Physical media is still going outside of porn but the industry aren't going to bother, as they're scrambling for SD DVD distribution as it is. And the quality in that format isn't that great.

Edited by - Secret Guy on 9/24/2021 7:18:56 PM

snufish
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Posted - Sep 24 2021 : 8:56PM
Customers prefer convenience over quality, they want their porn cheap and free. That's why all the studios ran to their biggest competitors (tubes) and joined forces with them. Instead of putting out web scenes on DVD every month, put out a 8 hour BD every quarter. Every 1 out of 5 scenes you film, save it for exclusive BD release. Stop putting 2min, 5min, 10min HD previews on tubes. You're watering down your product. I think BD/UHD are laser disc status, for niche video guys only. Mass prefer low quality streaming/downloads, that's why I unknowingly paid $15 for a video that had 3Mbps bitrate from a popular VOD site.

Be well

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