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Gore Gore Girl  Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 |  Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:00PM[Link] |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:00PM [Link] |
| Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:03PM Anyway, this whole political correctness discussion is a diversion. Let's move the the thread back to the original topic rather than open up a new front in the culture wars. [Link] |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:04PM No one did. [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:11PM However, I hardly get the impression that people here on this forum would have such inclinations to betray their honest feelings. I mean, we celebrate gangbangs and gaping and all kinds of wild freaky stuff. I don't see much to be gained by virtue signaling among this rather healthy and good natured community, modest in size but not modest in speaking our minds. Look at the rigorous debate we had in the James Deen controversy. Maybe some people were being dishonest and just dishing out platitudes to gain popularity points? IDK, I kinda still doubt that. One thing I like about this place is it doesn't seem like anyone is really trying to put on airs, you know? Nobody here strikes me as trying to run for office thank god. lol [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:14PM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:22PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:23PM Edited by - misspornUSA on 9/12/2016 6:23:54 PM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:32PM Back to my thoughts about involuntary aversion to being made aware of a male performer in hetero porn's prior participation in gay porn, I wanted to add, "for instance, when I first read someone's comment in a Blacked thread referring to Jason Brown having been in some gay porn, I was put off, and admittedly it did taint my appreciation to some degree. Mind you that had absolutely nothing to do with morality or conduct or content of character. There was just a gross factor to it at first for me." BUT imagine if instead of hype over a female's "1st IR" a new highly anticipiated first could be "1st bi" - would that ever take off? Could this actually be the first category where viewers actually care the least about what a guy is doing for the first time? lol Cuz to my knowledge, there is a total lack of interest in male's doing anything for the first time in porn. Not that I'm complaining, but women not only make much more than men as performers in porn, they also apparently have this "1st time" thing monopolized. Probably due to the fact that most recognized males in porn have been around much longer than the average female in porn, and eventually they've all done pretty much everything there is to do. But have they really? I wonder if there's not a market to actually see males explore the sexual horizons, or if there ever will be? Interesting question? [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:33PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:35PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:40PM [Link] |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:40PM I don't suspect that is going to change anytime soon. [Link] |
| shalalin Senior Member 1737 Posts 11/07 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 6:42PM [Link] |
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| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 7:33PM TBH it's a fair selling point. I only wonder why they didn't try using those sooner. Interestingly, it's still a female's 1st being touted. Also coming to mind now, ArchAngel has a series called "First Prince" which is all about ladies' first times with Prince. As for Mandingo, it seems the main objective of all his headlined series, they give priority to females who haven't been shot with him before. Jules Jordan has done a great job with casting and getting females their first crack at him. Sometimes there is a rematch, but usually it's a new pairing. But if I look back at the original Mandingo Massacre run (#s 1-8) I don't remember seeing "so-and-so's first time with Mandingo" on the box. Something it seems would behoove producers nowadays to point out. I think consumers are becoming more and more savvy, with resources such as this forum and IAFd. Still, I'd like to see something like "Moe Johnson's 1st time with TS" featuring (insert your suggestion here). Or what I'd also really like to see is a BGTS scene, boy+girl+TS, e.g. Rob Piper + Riley Reid + Natalie Mars. [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 7:40PM [Link] |
| Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 9:17PM [Link] |
| shalalin Senior Member 1737 Posts 11/07 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 9:29PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 9:56PM About the rest, personally I've never cared much about first IRs in and of themselves. That a pornstar is now shooting IR is a good thing, but that a scene is their "first" carries no inherent excitement for me. [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 10:05PM Edited by - misspornUSA on 9/12/2016 10:06:11 PM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 11:06PM I guess the more important question is, since we have heard Nikki Benz go on record to estimate that about 3/4 of males in porn are bi if not gay, not whether which performers are willing to do it, but which studios are willing to produce such content. There may actually be plenty of performers willing to do it, but producers shy away from it to protect their brands? Maybe someone can venture into this with a new brand? What still disappoints me is the idea that we have to have individualized or segregated categories. I'd like to see it all mixed in with the general content I like from studios like Jules Jordan Video and Arch Angel and HardX. I'd love to mix them all together. [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Sep 13 2016 : 10:14AM It's notable that we don't see a lot of mainstream black guys participating in full contact cuckolding scenes like Jason did. Why not? Those scenes aren't about same sex attraction to the male cuck, yet they're avoided anyway. Edited by - misspornUSA on 9/13/2016 10:18:26 AM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Sep 13 2016 : 10:17AM [Link] |
| Melvyn Senior Member 2797 Posts 12/12 | Posted - Sep 13 2016 : 5:31PM I get that they are not supposed to want it, and it's supposed to be more of a "punishment", but we know they're into it. That's why I can't get into virtually any of these cuck scenes in terms of how porn has misappropriated the term. Usually the acting is so bad it just ruins the whole concept and the cucks just end up being a distraction. I like cheating wife scenarios. Those are hot. But pro-porn companies fumble with full blown cuckold themes too often. It never feels convincing that it's anything other than a hired gay/bi guy who clearly wants the dick, but as I said before, few of them appear to deserve it. It's lazy. Maybe if the cuck was more attractive and the scripting of the sequence was more professional, a la Blacked, they could do it right. But perhaps I complicate matters with my picky taste in with regards to who would make an ideal cuck, because I want them to be pretty and feminine, or at least androgynous to some degree. But males like that either scarcely exist or are evidently in short supply in porn. Considering how poorly executed the vast majority of cuckoldry scenes are in porn, it's hard for me to blame the studs who are averse to doing those. And I have nothing against the humiliating aspects of it at all. I get the kink of that. I just think pro-porn has almost never conveyed the carnal conflict properly. There's some really hot amateur couples who do a far better job. What do you think about the looks of a cuckold? Do they matter? Seems to be a blind spot for porn producers because while they always try to maintain high standards of attractiveness in the main male and female talent, with cucks it seems there's pretty much no standards. And yeah, before anyone else points it out, I realize part of the point of cuck porn is to show how comparatively unattractive and unappealing the cuck character is versus the wife's lover. I understand that in general cheating-wife scenarios. It makes a lot of sense, cuz the wives are so hot, and they're usually stuck with hubbies who have let themselves go, or old wrinkly sugar-daddies. So I get why the cucks in those scenarios are unattractive. But for those full-on bi/gay contact cuck scenes, it doesn't make sense for them to wrangle the ugly sloppy tubby hubby. Major turn off! lol Edited by - Melvyn on 9/13/2016 5:39:13 PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Sep 13 2016 : 5:58PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - Sep 13 2016 : 6:48PM [Link] |
| PIVlover Member 202 Posts 3/15 | Posted - Sep 14 2016 : 3:19PM [Link] |
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