Does the term/phrase IR irritate anyone else?

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Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 2:16PM I figured I would start this thread because I am starting to see just how segregated and maybe, just a little racist the porn industry is. I was talking to a girl named Vanessa Leon who was talking about all the IR she has done. When asked what her nationality was she said she was full Spanish. I forget exactly which one (Mexican, Latina etc). Anyways, her being lets say 100% mexican and having sex with a black guy is considered IR. But her having sex with a White guy is considered normal. WTF? So to see if it was just me I looked up the names of a couple other girls of Spanish decent. Jenaveve Jolie and Veronique Vega. Sure Enough it lists their sex scenes with black guys as IR while their sex scenes with white guys are normal. IMO that is bullshit. Long story short Interracial means the mixing of two different races, whatever they are. Black and White. Mexican and Asian. Native American and Indian. Most porn companies are blatantly labeling the black race in their movies. As a gimmick or maybe as an inside joke. Now I'm not trying to come of as a guy looking to start a movement or anything. I just figured I see if I was the only one put off by their labeling. Either you label everyone the same or you don't label them at all. Dr. Nasty [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 2:26PM The whole concept of race is in error... There is only one race of upright walking, tool using hominids on this planet... they come in a few different skin colours, and eye shapes and such, owing mostly to environmental factors that have tweaked their evolution over millions and millions of years... There's no such thing as inter-racial, cause there's only one race. The only people who want you to think differently are bigots. [Link]
BigBobxxx Senior Member 2681 Posts 5/04	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 3:04PM Doesn't bother me at all. Why? Because porn uses broad srokes to market genres that people want to whack to. IR in porn means Black with White. That's just the way it is. Asian, Latina, Euro... it's all targeting a market (Latina and Euro are not races, but who cares). The only "racial" mix anyone cares about is Black and White. With your Asian, Latina, and Euro porn, this is based on the ethnicity of the girls only. I've seen no evidence that anyone gives a rat's ass about the race of the stud doing these girls. If we tried to group every race/ethnicity and break them into their own categories, you wouldn't be able to track or find anything. [Link]
Breeze Member One Smokin Hot Chic 532 Posts 11/08	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 4:21PM [Link]
Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 4:24PM BigBobxxx wrote: IR in porn means Black with White. That's just the way it is. Click to expand that's not necessarily true. If it were I wouldn't really have a problem with it. Porn classifies IR as any race that has sex with a black person, more specifically a black male. Black with White is considered IR. Mexican with Black. Black and Indian. Hell Black with anything = IR. But it doesn't work the other way around. White with Indian is normal. White with Mexican or any other spanish/latin nationality is normal. That is where the difference is. And that is where the Hypocrisy lies. [Link]

juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 5:45PM Dr. Nasty wrote: Porn classifies IR as any race that has sex with a black person, more specifically a black male. Click to expand Even more specifically a black Afro-American male. Some girls who won't do IR do Afro-Latins or Afro-Europeans. Edited by - juha on 2/19/2009 5:58:24 PM [Link]
juha Senior Member 2752 Posts 3/05	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 5:52PM May I add a question. Why do you differentiate Euro-Americans in Latins and Americans? Is being of Spanish descent so different from being of English, French or German descent? [Link]
Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 7:20PM sorry, double post! Edited by - aplus on 2/19/2009 7:24:21 PM [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 7:33PM ^Shit, Aplus, I deleted your double post and then you must have deleted the other one. Now they're both gone! Sorry dude. [Link]
Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 7:40PM Ah, it's probably just as well. My anger got the best of me. Man, your good though. Wish Mods on other boards were as diligent. [Link]
ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 19 2009 : 10:51PM BigBobxxx wrote: Doesn't bother me at all. Why? Because porn uses broad srokes to market genres that people want to whack to. Click to expand That's the bottom line. It's just a category so folks can more easily find the porn they want. It's all oversimplified and inaccurate. Like "MILF" is imperfect when they use too-young women. Or "BBW" is imperfect when they use too-small women. Or "all-anal" is imperfect when there are vaginal scenes. Better to just learn the lingo and not try to change the world. [Link]
Cerebral Jedi Senior Member I don't trust men who don't like big tits. 1067 Posts 12/04	Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 1:44AM If I thought that much about it, my dick wouldn't get hard. Just trying to enjoy myself watching people fuck. Not trying to analyze/solve social matters. [Link]
tritone Deactivated User 1009 Posts 4/03	Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 2:17AM Dr. Nasty wrote: BigBobxxx wrote: IR in porn means Black with White. That's just the way it is. Click to expand that's not necessarily true. If it were I wouldn't really have a problem with it. Porn classifies IR as any race that has sex with a black person, more specifically a black male. Black with White is considered IR. Mexican with Black. Black and Indian. Hell Black with anything = IR. But it doesn't work the other way around. White with Indian is normal. White with Mexican or any other spanish/latin nationality is normal. That is where the difference is. And that is where the Hypocrisy lies. Click to expand Nasty, I agree with you 100%, but it is what it is. I've written too much about this in the past to rehash everything here, but it all boils down to a single concept: white men and their desires control both the consumer and production side of porn. In a twisted racial hierarchy informed by white supremacy, black people are at the very bottom. Therefore, they are not seen as normal humans when sex is concerned. A black man fucking any other race is a "feitsh" - a sideshow where the non-black female submits to being defiled by the cocks of these sub-creatures. This is what gets off many white consumers who buy IR porn. Hispanic/Indian/Arab males are considered honorary whites when they are studding on film. Seeing them have sex with porn girls doesn't have the same degradation factor because to these racists they are more "human" than blacks (though not equal to whites). Thank goodness for directors like Lex, LT, Alexander Devoe, Pumper, Slayer, (and Jules sometimes) who make sexy black on white sex that is just hot sex and nothing else. [Link]
wargamer Member 157 Posts 9/07	Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 1:09PM Genetically sub-saharan africans are the most divergent group so there is indeed such a thing as Africans and non-Africans. However using this criterion Australian Aboriginees are also Eurasians but they can almost pass for Africans.(though more of them actually can pass for dark caucasians when they are less tanned) The branching order within Eurasians is less clear because today's races are a fusion of many lineages. Europeans are a mixture of Middle Eastern, Central Asian and Siberian lineages(such as the ancestors of native americans) while East Asians are a mixture of Siberian/Central Asian and Southeast Asian lineages. Also race is not just about the skin color. It is possible that one has a lilly white skin but belongs to the "black race" and there are some really dark(almost black) caucasians like some Asian Indians. [Link]
nietzsche Deactivated User 5470 Posts 8/03	Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 1:45PM tritone wrote: In a twisted racial hierarchy informed by white supremacy, black people are at the very bottom. Therefore, they are not seen as normal humans when sex is concerned. A black man fucking any other race is a "feitsh" - a sideshow where the non-black female submits to being defiled by the cocks of these sub-creatures. This is what gets off many white consumers who buy IR porn. Hispanic/Indian/Arab males are considered honorary whites when they are studding on film. Seeing them have sex with porn girls doesn't have the same degradation factor because to these racists they are more "human" than blacks (though not equal to whites). Click to expand I just totally beat off to that. [Link]

NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 1:51PM "Also race is not just about the skin color." Race transcends skin colour.... There is only ONE race of humans. [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - Feb 20 2009 : 11:02PM Amen! Jacco [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 5:33AM Yeah, racism just disappears if you wish it hard enough. [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 8:27AM No, but a little education could go a long way [Link]
backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07	Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 9:04AM The phrase doesn't but all these fucking threads do ! [Link]
Gunzo Senior Member 1377 Posts 2/05	Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 12:35PM Yes, because it's a term that I assume dates back to a fucked up time when interracial relationships was unlawful in certain parts of the world. I'm also thinking of classic boxingmatches. But the most annoying is that I don't really care and therefore never pick up movies based on ethnicity. I probably miss out on a lot of good latina and black girls because of this. [Link]
ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 21 2009 : 7:47PM Gunzo wrote: But the most annoying is that I don't really care and therefore never pick up movies based on ethnicity. I probably miss out on a lot of good latina and black girls because of this. Click to expand It's an inexact science for the retailers and pornoshops to decide how to categorize everything. When I go to the pornoshop, the only "category" I totally ignore is gay. All the other categories have good stuff that I have stumbled on. Avoid them and you miss out. [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 9:28AM backdoorman wrote: The phrase doesn't but all these fucking threads do ! Click to expand So don't read them or post to them... Easy as that [Link]
backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07	Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 11:32AM Phbbbbbbbbttttttttttttt ! It's a free country or at least it used to be ! [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 11:52AM Personally, I like the visual contrast of black-on-white. The term "inter-racial" is unfortunate b/c it really does somehow separate out one group over others, but it is also nice to be able to categorize things such that people get what they want... For instance, if there weren't an "IR" label, they would still have to come up with something so that those who like such scenes would know that they are there... It's a tricky subject. [Link]

Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05	Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 12:07PM fu_q wrote: For instance, if there weren't an "IR" label, they would still have to come up with something so that those who like such scenes would know that they are there... It's a tricky subject. Click to expand BM= Black Male WF= White Female WM= White Male BF= Black Female AM= Asian Male SM= Spanish Male and so on and so forth. Then they could say BM/AF etc, etc and you would know that means Black Male/Asian Female... This is just one of many methods they could use and I just came up with this one off the top of my head.The problem I have with the term "IR" is in porn it doesn't mean what it says. Itntead of it meaning the mixing of two different races(any race), which is what the term actually means. It pretty much means sex with black people. More importantly black males. [Link]
the unknown pervert Deactivated User I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06	Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 12:31PM For purposes of porn forums IR should stand for Inevitably Retarded because that is what every thread that it is posted in eventually ends up becoming. [Link]
fu_q All-Star Member Marv Montag (@PornOfYore) 2506 Posts 2/09	Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 1:18PM Dr. Nasty wrote: Then they could say BM/AF etc, etc and you would know that means Black Male/Asian Female... Click to expand I'd be okay with that, I just wonder how the general public would respond to a more complex coding. [Link]
backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07	Posted - Feb 22 2009 : 9:40PM the unknown pervert wrote: For purposes of porn forums IR should stand for Inevitably Retarded because that is what every thread that it is posted in eventually ends up becoming. Click to expand + 1 Thank you ! [Link]
lenscap Member everywhere 185 Posts 10/05	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 7:02AM We are dealing with uninformed people here as the original poster thinks Mexican is a race. Its not. Its a culture. Plus there are only 5 races in the world. We are NOT one race ( as one poster repeatedly says), we are Homo Sapiens ( a classification within the entire animal community). IR in the porn marketing scheme is a simple and known term. After all, its just porno. NOT ROCKET SCIENCE or anthropology. Now lets go back to jerking off... [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 10:28AM "there are only 5 races in the world. We are NOT one race" Bull... Those 5 'distinctions' were nothing more than thinly veiled bigotry... They were constructs, attempting to legitimize one group over the others. Constructs that a good chunk of the scientific community has already shrugged off as valueless. As far back as 1998, The American Anthropological Association, for example states, "reliance on such folk beliefs about human differences in research has led to countless errors" http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm [Link]
JennaRulez2006 Member The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 10:53AM All I know is the IR genre is getting stale with the Black Guy/White Girl. So saturated now. Also the Black Guy/Asian Girl or Black Guy/Latin Girl. Seems to always be more and more onesided. The black guy fucks all "races" while most studios and directors keep making all black movies more than having Black Women in the IR genre more and more. And it is bs that it does not sell. Was it a for sure guarentee back in the 80's making IR porn having black men fuck the shit out of white women? It was a chance and also one that followed what was happening in everyday life. Black men dating/fucking white women. Now you look around and all "races" and cultures are dating/fucking, including women who are non-white. It annoys me that the IR genre stays in the past and doesn't rev up and get with the times. Shows that studios and directors just blindly follow the leader. With so many BM/WF movies out there, there is no way all studios are making money off of it. Only some are.Get the ebony babes in the IR genre alot more than they are, and I will bet that money will be made. Just someone has to say fuck it, and be the leader who starts the change in IR porn. [Link]
Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 11:02AM lenscap wrote: We are dealing with uninformed people here as the original poster thinks Mexican is a race. Click to expand It is considered one of the many subsidiary groups of the Spanish/Hispanic race. Oh and please feel free to quote where it is I said that Mexican is a race. Because I fail to see it. I never said it was a race. I have spoken about Mexicans on their own because it further breaks down the overall classification of Spanish into something smaller. Just as well many people describe themselves as being Mexican, or Cuban or Puerto Rican etc, rather then Spanish/Hispanic when asked of their race/ethnicity. Maybe its better for them that way. I don't know. By the way. I am sure there are more than 5 races in the world. Edited by - Dr. Nasty on 2/23/2009 11:29:32 AM [Link]
Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 11:03AM Dr. Nasty wrote: I figured I would start this thread because I am starting to see just how segregated and maybe, just a little racist the porn industry is.... Click to expand Perhaps it's not the IR labeling that's annoying but the racial segregation such porn films show. A truly interracial film is where black and white men together take on some black and white women in the same room in a one big orgy where all the guys regardless of their race get to ride all the women regardless of their race. Such an interracial porn film would show complete racial integration rather than some kind of separation between the races. And such a film would be a pleasure to watch for anyone who doesn't have any racial prejudices. Unfortunately such truly interracial porn films are very rare, if they exist at all. Most interracial films show some kind of implied separation between the races. Which suggests racism rather than racial integration. [Link]
JennaRulez2006 Member The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 1:11PM Dan wrote: Perhaps it's not the IR labeling that's annoying but the racial segregation such porn films show. A truly interracial film is where black and white men together take on some black and white women in the same room in a one big orgy where all the guys regardless of their race get to ride all the women regardless of their race. Such an interracial porn film would show complete racial integration rather than some kind of separation between the races. And such a film would be a pleasure to watch for anyone who doesn't have any racial prejudices. Unfortunately such truly interracial porn films are very rare, if they exist at all. Most interracial films show some kind of implied separation between the races. Which suggests racism rather than racial integration. Click to expand I wish that the porn industry wouldn't be so blatently racist but sadly it is. And a movie like this that you mentioned should have been made a long time ago. Sad isn't it, that we have come so far and yet the industry that we are entertained by still lags behind in this area. [Link]

ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 3:11PM JennaRulez2006 wrote: I wish that the porn industry wouldn't be so blatently racist but sadly it is. And a movie like this that you mentioned should have been made a long time ago. Click to expand So you (and Dan) are saying there are ZERO movies that fit Dan's description? I'm just a casual viewer, but I'm pretty sure I've seen movies with blacks and whites of both sexes all mixed in. Probably wasn't an orgy scene though, since I rarely buy/rent orgy titles. [Link]
hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 3:28PM NewRomancer wrote: The whole concept of race is in error... There is only one race of upright walking, tool using hominids on this planet... they come in a few different skin colours, and eye shapes and such, owing mostly to environmental factors that have tweaked their evolution over millions and millions of years... There's no such thing as inter-racial, cause there's only one race. The only people who want you to think differently are bigots. Click to expand excellent post! There is only one race, the Human Race. Then of course the rat race. Edited by - hollywood woody on 2/23/2009 3:32:32 PM [Link]
somedudeyo Deactivated User 42 Posts 3/09	Posted - Jun 24 2009 : 8:49AM Dr. Nasty wrote: I figured I would start this thread because I am starting to see just how segregated and maybe, just a little racist the porn industry is. I was talking to a girl named Vanessa Leon who was talking about all the IR she has done. When asked what her nationality was she said she was full Spanish. I forget exactly which one (Mexican, Latina etc). Anyways, her being lets say 100% mexican and having sex with a black guy is considered IR. But her having sex with a White guy is considered normal. WTF? So to see if it was just me I looked up the names of a couple other girls of Spanish decent. Jenaveve Jolie and Veronique Vega. Sure Enough it lists their sex scenes with black guys as IR while their sex scenes with white guys are normal. IMO that is bullshit. Long story short Interracial means the mixing of two different races, whatever they are. Black and White. Mexican and Asian. Native American and Indian. Most porn companies are blatantly labeling the black race in their movies. As a gimmick or maybe as an inside joke. Now I'm not trying to come of as a guy looking to start a movement or anything. I just figured I see if I was the only one put off by their labeling. Either you label everyone the same or you don't label them at all. Dr. Nasty Click to expand spanish descent ??? spanish is WHITE CAUCASIAN, go to spain and you'll see it, it's not a race. [Link]
somedudeyo Deactivated User 42 Posts 3/09	Posted - Jun 24 2009 : 9:01AM Just to make my point clear, those you call "latinos" are mixed people from central and south america (and north america, mexico ), NOT SPANISH, they are mixed with natives, they're mostly white but are mixed, SPANISH means people from SPAIN and SPAIN is in EUROPE. [Link]
Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05	Posted - Jun 24 2009 : 9:11AM Spanish, Latino, Mexican, Hispanic...whatever. Everybody else got it. ***The Dr. of Nasty*** [Link]
jizzyjay Member 914 Posts 10/07	Posted - Jun 24 2009 : 9:58AM hollywood woody wrote: NewRomancer wrote: The whole concept of race is in error... There is only one race of upright walking, tool using hominids on this planet... they come in a few different skin colours, and eye shapes and such, owing mostly to environmental factors that have tweaked their evolution over millions and millions of years... There's no such thing as inter-racial, cause there's only one race. The only people who want you to think differently are bigots. Click to expand excellent post! There is only one race, the Human Race.If only this was true! Then of course the rat race.If only this was true! Edited by - hollywood woody on 2/23/2009 3:32:32 PM Click to expand [Link]
Stud_Rob Member 703 Posts 4/09	Posted - Jun 24 2009 : 3:49PM Not really no. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - Jun 24 2009 : 4:17PM Maybe it's just me, being a newbie and all, but a) I find threads about interracial/race interesting (doesn't mean they're all smart or that I agree in any way), and b) people seem to get disproportionately upset by these threads, which I also find interesting. [Link]
Zaer Deactivated User 249 Posts 10/07	Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 12:20PM the unknown pervert wrote: For purposes of porn forums IR should stand for Inevitably Retarded because that is what every thread that it is posted in eventually ends up becoming. Click to expand So stop reading these threads. And the term is annoying, but given the racially backwards nature of the industry they're not going to stop using it anytime soon. Edited by - Zaer on 6/25/2009 12:27:46 PM [Link]
Rick James Jr Deactivated User 72 Posts 7/09	Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 12:03PM its just a label to catagorize the fetish or flava. [Link]
Johnothan Pedak Senior Member Catastrophe 1594 Posts 6/07	Posted - Jul 11 2009 : 3:54AM hollywood woody wrote: There is only one race, the Human Race. Click to expand A race we have lost. [Link]
LenfordLeonard Member 6 Posts 7/09	Posted - Jul 11 2009 : 10:16PM As far as I'm concerned it's pretty simple. It's not a way of judging people or insinuating any sort of hierarchy/prejudice, it's just a way of easily bracketing and marketing genres of porn. In the same way you go to a record store and see a certain band in the rock/metal section when you think they're more suited to the indie or classic rock or some shit like that. In porn, IR pretty much stands for anything containing a black performer and someone of another race. Someone of south american descent leading a scene makes it latino/a, someone from europe it's euro, and obviously people from asia = asian. It just happens that black on white/latina/euro/asian sex is bracketed under the sweeping term IR because at its emergence it was a particular niche genre. I'm sure the finer details of race and identity are discussed day in day out worldwide, but I'm pretty sure those who make/watch porn aren't too fussed about semantics, so easily distinguishable genres will always win out over political correctness. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Jul 11 2009 : 10:40PM LenfordLeonard wrote: As far as I'm concerned it's pretty simple. It's not a way of judging people or insinuating any sort of hierarchy/prejudice, it's just a way of easily bracketing and marketing genres of porn. In the same way you go to a record store and see a certain band in the rock/metal section when you think they're more suited to the indie or classic rock or some shit like that. In porn, IR pretty much stands for anything containing a black performer and someone of another race. Someone of south american descent leading a scene makes it latino/a, someone from europe it's euro, and obviously people from asia = asian. It just happens that black on white/latina/euro/asian sex is bracketed under the sweeping term IR because at its emergence it was a particular niche genre. I'm sure the finer details of race and identity are discussed day in day out worldwide, but I'm pretty sure those who make/watch porn aren't too fussed about semantics, so easily distinguishable genres will always win out over political correctness. Click to expand Explain the premium that's is paid to anyone who isn't "Black" for doing a scene with someone who is Black. It just happens that black on white/latina/euro/asian sex is bracketed under the sweeping term IR because at its emergence racism was the de facto law of the land. It's remains the the law in the porn industry. [Link]
mindee Member If you don't break the rules, you'll never have any fun! 717 Posts 10/06	Posted - Jul 12 2009 : 9:07AM ninja1 wrote: BigBobxxx wrote: Doesn't bother me at all. Why? Because porn uses broad srokes to market genres that people want to whack to. Click to expand That's the bottom line. It's just a category so folks can more easily find the porn they want. It's all oversimplified and inaccurate. Like "MILF" is imperfect when they use too-young women. Or "BBW" is imperfect when they use too-small women. Or "all-anal" is imperfect when there are vaginal scenes. Better to just learn the lingo and not try to change the world. Click to expand I think it's sort of dumb, and Ninja is right..it's imperfect. But..my own personal take on labeling something as IR, is to imply that it's naughty, nasty & bad. If you consider that a lot of middle age, suburban white guys are buying porn, what says naughty more loudly than (gasp) a young slutty white girl fucking a black stud?? It's stereotype to the max, and it sells product. Somehow I can't believe that in 2009 this kind of silly stereotype is needed to sell product, but it does and it works. Of course it's imperfect...it's racist and it's dumb. [Link]
Dr. Nasty Senior Member Asa Akira.....Damn! 3797 Posts 9/05	Posted - Sep 8 2009 : 8:34PM That it is. And its still irritating. I would much rather them put SWABP or Sex with a black person on the cover than IR. At least then they would be upfront about it. ***The Dr. of Nasty*** Edited by - Dr. Nasty on 9/8/2009 8:35:02 PM [Link]
BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09	Posted - Sep 8 2009 : 11:36PM IR labeling doesn't really bother me, although I admit it's ignorant and reminiscent of societal attitudes several decades ago. As everyone said prior, companies are just sticking with the same routine (just like everything else in porn these days). As for the whole race thing, I remember seeing a cover of TIME as a kid that showed what a typical future face (phenotypically) of America would look like, as a result of America's evolving attitude on interracial relationships. Now, I see a girl like Danni Cole and realize how we are starting to see distinct ethnic facial features blending and blurring. Personally, I am looking forward to seeing more hybrids (beside the car kind) like Danni Cole. I find it funny that porn (media showcasing sex) is stuck in the past, even though sex (being the driving force behind the blurring of distinct races) might be the only hope of marginalizing racism in the US. Make , not [Link]