Question: am in the minority in not liking how most creampie scenes make a big production out of it -- by that I mean, the guy makes a point of making lots of noise that he's about-to... is-cumming... he's very careful to not cum too deep inside the girl so that the entire load will quickly appear for the camera, the whole fuck-scene comes to an abrupt halt the instant he's done shooting his load, he jumps out of the way, the girl spreads her legs and holds still, while the camera zooms in and waits... waits... waits... for the cum to ooze out, like it's a slow-mo replay during a sporting event.
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Am I alone in favoring scenes where the guy cums and continues to fuck the girl, and the scene is even hotter because his cock is covered in cum and it is slowly dripping out as the scene goes on? Where he keeps pulling his cock out to have her clean his shaft? Where each time they shift position or he really pounds her, a little more cum squirts out and lands somewhere... making the scene that more interesting to watch. I guess what I'm thinking of is sort of a "sloppy seconds" without even a second guy involved -- obviously he'd also have to pop again later on in the scene. But, the idea is he cums midway through to spice up the scene.
I think the main problem is believability when creampies are involved. There used to be a time when creampies were done quite often, but unfortunately they were usually faked because the guy couldn't come. Now I think the idea is to actually proved the guy really came inside of the woman, which is why they show the performers squeezing it out.
I would love to see sex be more continuous onscreen, so to see performers keep fucking after the guy pops sounds good to me. Justin Slayer and Lex Steele are 2 guys who have been known to keep fucking after they pop. I've never seen Lex do a creampie though. Justin does them occasionally, but his 2nd (weaker) pop will normally be the creampie, well at least from what I've seen. Tom Byron used to pop and keep fucking quite a bit when he was a lot younger, but the 2nd go-round rarely was shown for no more than a minute or two. I think they're must be a 1 pop rule on most films, plus most male performers appear to be done or empty after their first pop anyway.
Yeah I agree, in the sense that I understand the factors you're talking about. I just don't agree with how "the industry" is dealing with those issues.
Yeah, viewers like to see "proof" that the guy actually came where and when he said he came. But, in my mind, having the whole scene stop like it hit a brick wall, just to show a load drain out of a girl's hole, is not worth it.
There are alternatives. If the guy says he's cumming, and his cock starts to look like it's covered in cum, then I'm likely to give him the benefit of the doubt. And if they don't do a lot of editing/cutting, when I see more cum gradually appear over the next several minutes, I'll believe it even more.
They can also "get creative"... they don't have to simply stop the scene and do the creampie-replay. For example, he could cum in her pussy, then immediately switch to fucking her ass doggy from a high angle, and from behind the camera could show both the ass-fucking and her wet pussy at the same time -- and over the course of the next couple minutes while he's pounding her ass, you know some of that cum in her pussy is going to drain out. The fact it happens because she's getting ass-fucked would make the scene even hotter. And the ultimate would be if he then came again in her ass.
The other thing to consider is that every guy knows that if the guy came at all, he came completely -- particularly if he stayed inside her. So, if they don't cut or edit the scene, and just show them continuing to fuck, if ANY amount of "evidence" appears, it will establish that the guy did indeed blow his wad inside the girl. The only remaining unanswered question for viewers at that point is, "how much/good of a load was it?" Directors are trying to answer that by having the guy barely shoot inside her and then get the whole load to immediately drain out -- but if they're patient, a great load will show up in various ways sooner or later in the scene... when he fucks her in that hole again his cock will be covered in cum, and it's a great visual I think for her to lick it off (even multiple times)... it will also slowly drip out. It will pay off eventually... the director just has to be patient.
Yeah, I like how Slayer and Steele will get hot for a girl and just pop and then go back to fucking her like it isn't the end of the world. I just wish they would do more creampies and less of the usual mouth-shots. I seem to recall a scene where Steele pulled out of Rita Faltoyano, saying she was too hot, and his cock was covered a bit, so he might have cum early in her.
I definitely agree that sex should be "continuous"... I really don't care for the usual formula. Personally I really like it when the guy is having trouble controlling himself... it makes it far more authentic than when he just does the usual half-dozen positions and then has to jerk himself off into her mouth for his paycheck. I like it when it's one guy, one girl, both horny as hell for each other, and fucking like their lives depended on it.
Unfortunately I don't think most directors have the creativity or especially the passion to pull-off the kind of scenes your talking about. And with a huge percentage of fans wanting and demanding facials, I really have a tough time seeing those kind of scenes getting done. To do those kind of scenes, I think the guy is gonna have to really be into the scene and the girl he is with. Most of the time, I'm just not convinced they are. Contrary to the belief of most gonzo or wall-to-wall fans, sex on film rarely looks truly spontaneous or inspired to me, and I'd think you'd need it for those kind of scenes.
I think it could be done with the right director/cameraman though. Other than Justin Slayer maybe, I can't think of any other current ones who could pull-it-off consistently. The main problem would probably be editing & cutting though. Just seems that most directors and editors can't keep their damn hands off the "edit" buttons.
Some diversity is nice, but I am glad the majority of creators, have caught on to the general cumfart sequence. Also, that they understand the importance of validating the cum. When there's no longer a need to validate, so will be the need to keep it real. What I would like to see, and in a way addresses the earlier suggestion, is after she squeezes out the first nut, and her bumhole is still somewhat flared from pushing, the next guy stuffs his back in, and proceeds into his turn. Typically, all cumfarts are delayed until after all have unloaded. There are still some basic varieties or changups that have not been explored.
I am glad however that over the past couple of years, these shots, and their associate cumfarts have been adopted into the general mix.
shooting creampies can be very stressful since you never know how much of the dudes load is ever gonna drip out. and when you have multiple/pile up creampies, you cant always be sure if one, or two, of the dudes pulled a 'ghost pop'. it's also tough finding dudes that are willing to slice into a chicks box, or asshole after a load, or loads, have already been dumped into them. sorry, but some guys DO mind having stranger semen on their pork piece. anyways, just wanted to add a few things from this side of the coin since shooting creampie scenes can drive a director totally insane regardless of how good, or bad, the action was. lates, Von S.
I just saw a scene fairly recently where a guy looked like he faked an internal cum-shot, so I do think it still happens. I thought the action was hot enough that I was willing t give him the benefit though. Shooting sex scenes is never as easy as we think it is, so I can understand where your coming from.
Directors can avoid the stress of trying to make a creampie come out right (if you pardon the pun) by simply not making the creampie the key selling point of the scene -- you should be able to make a great scene apart from what the money shot is. I would also cast male performers who can shoot a double-load -- so even if the creampie vanishes, he can still put something on camera. But, the whole point here is the fucking and cumming should be more natural.
Now, I know this is not what the mainstream audience might care about, and I know it's not what an average director and an average male star can pull off, but that doesn't mean it can't be done profitably. There are tons of niches in this market, and this sort of thing should simply be one more.
I agree. The best example of this I've seen is Violet Blue's scene in Grrl Power! 5. The "plot" of the scene was Blue fucking an IRS auditor to get out of paying a hefty tax penalty. After the pop, Blue stands up. The cameraman is shooting thru her legs to the (now) satisfied IRS man.
"So we can forget that little tax thingie?" she asks, as the splooge slowly drips down her inner thighs.
"The tax audit," says the IRS agent, "yeah, we can forget about that...oh. don't take little Skippy as a deduction next year."
"Why not?" Blue asks innocently.
"Because he's your dog! "
End of scene. Sorry for all the detail. But I thought the whole thing was done well. The comedy complemented the dripping creampie.
No need to apologize for the description here, because that is the kind of synopsis that I prefer. I liked that description so much that I'm gonna try to get that film when I get a chance. I just hope the cameraman didn't cut away before it started dripping down, because I'll have a tougher time believing it if they did.
it'd be kinda interesting to see a guy keep pumping but it takes away the realism aspect (if there is such a thing in porn) cos i dont see how a guy could cum in a girl and then keep pumping long enough to pull out and cum again - without ye ole viagra
Creampies were much better when they were spontaneous rather than being intentional as we have today. Great creampies, whether they be oral or vaginal, can be found in the depths of the Amateur circuit. Remember the early 90s period for porn with the likes of Randy Detroit.One of the worst pornographers ever. His shit was so bad that some of it was actually damn good! Not that he intended it to be. Randy must have been the first dude to creampie a pregnant black woman on camera with long umbilical cord like drippage after pulling out. Quite real. There are some great creampie practioners out there in the amateur circuit and I hope they dont get nowhere near 'Porn Valley'. These people make some bomb shit throughout the far reaches of the good ole U.S. of A. and beyond. Some are as follows: CreampieCathy, Janet Mason, Kandi Peach, DenniO, AmazingTy, Susan Reno, BiancaBlack, the gorgeous red head Southern Belle Angelle from MyDarkSecrets.com, Oasis from OasisPresents.com and a whole wonderful host of others.
I saw a DVD called Creampie Initiations by Jon Dough and with him in every scene. Not even a woman with the quality of Rita Faltoyano could save this for me. Dough should farm some of the stud/creampie duties out to other guys and not do every single scene himself. Bring some young bulls on board whose ballsacks are full and ready to go. Peter does this in Northpole series spacing himself out between girls. Smart. But with this experience of Dough's CI, I ran into another all creampie themed flick a couple of weeks later. It was Tyce Bune's Amateur Creampies #6. Give me a break. As good as the box cover looked I passed because it probably mimicked Dough's movie and probably had even weaker creampies as Bune was the only male in the pictures on the box.
Perhaps the best creampies, where the girl supplied the cream, was some of the stuff Vidway & Video-X-Pix did in the late 80s early 90s. Some of the girls in Vidway's/VXP's stable who creamed up included Bunny Bleu, Christie Robbins, Jeanna Fine(VXP only), Jacqueline Lorians, Suzi Lee, Aja(boy could she cream), Sue Nero, Lois Ayres, Tammi Monroe, Brittany Morgan and more. But the wettest, creamiest female with pure white nugetty fluid was undoubtedly Heather Hunter. Ive mentioned her somewhere else here on ADT about her pussy creaming. But in her earliest movies, with Rick Savage as her partner, her vulva would become whiter than a mixer gone crazy in a Dairy Queen. Kudos to that New York company for leaving all of those wonderful messy scenes in the final movies. It was a sad day when Hunter signed with Vivid and headed West because the good ole creamy days were over.
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Creampies are cool but creampie movies are mostly weak.
Creampies should just be treated as something to make a good scene better, not as a circus attraction. They should be in there with deep-throat, tittie-fucking, double-penetration, and other ingredients for a hot fuck scene. Any time you have a single, short "act" become the whole point of a video, you get stuff that's lame... the way you would if they were making videos named "deep-throaters 2", "extreme titties", or "double penetrated 15"... it's just too fucking narrow a focus for a video.
Everett: that's a great set of video clips...
I like the interview clip... cool chick... though this nonsense about "she doesn't know she's getting a creampie" or "she didn't take her birth control" is just stupid to have her try to act on camera.
I love the way he HAMMERS the other girl doggy from the high angle... the girl has a great pussy and it's overflowing at the end... I just about laughed out loud when the director asked the guy, "did you cum?" I'm thinking, does he know what cum looks like? Did he notice the river suddenly flowing out of her? The guys with high-volume, watery loads definitely make for the best visuals.
Unfortunately the director stopped the action and had the guy pull out and leave the scene... the stupid "stop having sex so I can see the creampie better", like it's going to vanish in thin air if he doesn't, though at least he didn't do the even more annoying "spread your pussy and make it come out for me" drill that's in most creampie movies these days.
Again, the irony is the guy was doing a great job of pushing the cum out just from him continuing to slowly thrust into her... actually made it squirt from her... if the director had simply instructed him from the start that he needs to cum with her either on top or in doggy and not to stop hammering her, so that it would squirt out from his thrusting, the visual would have been spectacular.
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Francios: I forgot to mention, I watched that scene you mentioned with Jill Kelly getting creamed... yeah, it's definitely the way it should be done, only more so. Her "squat fucking" him was the PERFECT position for him to cum inside her... she should have simply continued squat-fucking him hard, fast, and deep for the next few minutes after he came, squeezing his load out a little at a time and covering his cock and balls in it. Periodically she could pull off him and suck his cock clean, then go back to squat-fucking him... keep repeating that cycle until there's no cum left (or his dick gets too limp/small to continue).
Unfortunately in that particular scene, Julian didn't seem to deliver much of a load. I have to say Jill also looked and sounded totally wasted and used up... please tell me she was near retirement... for most of the scene with him fucking her pussy, I couldn't help noticing how shockingly dry his cock was as they went on for what seemed like forever... young, tight, and wet she was NOT!
That Jill Kelly scene sounds like the one I saw in "Jewel De'Nyle's Sluts Of The Nyle #3" years ago. I'd agree that scene was the best one I've ever seen. Jill is straddling Julian in Cowgirl and fucks him until he cums. Julian drops a big load that practically pours down out of her pussy and onto his dick, and is dripping when he pulls out, and some even drops out of her pussy onto his dick. He fucked her for about another 30 seconds, but I wish he had kept fucking her longer. The bj clean-off was pretty hot, especially the way she did it.
Jewel does a doggystyle dp creampie in it with Mark Wood in her ass and Joel Lawrence in her pussy. Mark's creampie didn't film well, but Joel's was similar to Julian's and was pretty good, but not as much volume. Both guys appeared to cum at the same time, but both pulled out immediately. Jewel later does one in a threesome with Haven and Dale Dabone. This is done in Missionary with Dale cum soaking his dick and then dripping onto Jewel's ass and pussy as he too immediately pulls out.
Angelica Sin does one with Rich Handsome, who I believe is her husband. This is done in Cowgirl also. Like the Jill Kelly scene, she fucks him until he cums. She gets off him before it could drip down though. He didn't appear to drop that much, although a little is on her pussy. She licks most of what he did drop off her fingers, which again was pretty hot.
Chennin Blanc's scene with Cheyne Collins probably was the weakest of the 5. She's in doggy, but turns over on her side right after he cums, so none drips down, and rubs whatever was there with her fingers and licks it all up. Again visually hot, but just not from a creampie standpoint.
This was by far the best one I've ever seen. Only Jill's scene with Julian really worked completely, although the 4 out of 5 were pretty good.
Cowgirl/Reverse Cowgirl, or a scene where the girl is bent over does seem to work the best. If she's in the position the cums has to drip down automatically. Not every stud can consistently drop a large load though, and not all of them seem capable of remaining hard after they cum either, which creates other dilemma's.
Matter of fact, not only most director miss out to have guy continue after cum, but also not fully exploit the preparation for anal creampie, specifically enema!
Only Max hardcore had done that in Hardcore Schoolgirl and no one had done it since.
Do hope Tyce Bune would do that in some of his so-called "Tyce Bune creampie guaranty" in near future.
, the gorgeous red head Southern Belle Angelle from MyDarkSecrets.com, Oasis from OasisPresents.com and a whole wonderful host of others.