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Imaladyman Member 434 Posts 7/15	Posted - Mar 29 2016 : 7:14PM This is a website that offers phone numbers for conversation and texts...of the most beautiful and horniest women of the world!!! I scrolled 10 pages, with I believe 48 girls per page. I was fascinated :) Almost all of my favorite adult actresses have an account there. Does anybody know if this is trustworthy and valid? Amongst my favorites listed, are the wonderful... AUGUST AMES, Bridgette B, Kendra Lust, Jayden Jaymes, ABIGAIL MAC, Nina Elle, Dani Daniels, Jasmine Jae, AVA ADDAMS, Kennedy Leigh, KEISHA GREY, Priya Price, ANGELA WHITE, LAYTON BENTON, AUDREY BITONI, Noelle Easton, RACHELE RICHEY, MORGAN LEE, ANYA IVY, SHERIDAN LOVE, Teanna Trump, Rilynn Rae, CYRSTAL RAE, and ARIANA MARIE. Unfortunately, (but I'll survived) no #s were listed for Karlee Grey, Cassidy Banks, Jezabel Vessir, Lisa Tiffian, Carter Cruise, Sophia Leone, Kianna Dior or Aria Alexander. But there is plenty to be happy about still. If this is truly legit. For other fans, Lexi Dearmas looks cute. Unbeknownst to me, Bryci looks really interesting too. Luna Star is sexy. Popular superstars Alexis Texas, Romi Rain, Nikki Benz, Janet Mason, Rachel Starr, London Keyes, Natasha Nice, Nicole Aniston, Phoenix Marie, Mia Malkova, Julia Ann, Cassandra Cruz, and Diamond Jackson are all featured on the front page. The site claims: Call, text and share pics with her from your own phone, whenever you want. 100% verified, guaranteed. However, I know Audrey Bitoni is 29 now, and her page says 28. So that leaves me with some doubt. Unless this service isn't popular, or they never updated their bios, I see a red flag there. If it is true, I'll definitely be buying the preciious digits to speak and text with the marvelous capitalized women I mentioned above. Especially... ANGELA WHITE, Sheridan Love, Audrey Bitoni, Abigail Mac, August Ames, Keisha Grey, Ariana Marie, and Morgan Lee. Anyway, does have anybody have any experience with this? Any positive (or even negative) testimony?! I just want to make sure, because I'll break my bank account to keep in solid touch with my favorite babes!!! Breaking the bank won't be hard to do :( but at least my heart's in the right place. I hope this is a legitimate site, because I want to keep in touch with these stunning horny women :) All and any input is appreciated Topic Moved by - killbillvol69 on Mar 30 2016 [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Mar 30 2016 : 1:40AM It's definitely real. It's run by the same people that run Naughty America, and while I haven't used it personally, I've talked to a few performers at conventions who have talked about how they like being on the service. Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 3/30/2016 1:41:23 AM [Link]
Imaladyman Member 434 Posts 7/15	Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 1:02AM Thanks dude. I'm gonna bbuy a couple numbers on the weekend, and tell you guys how it goes. ANGELA WHITE, SHERIDAN LOVE, AUGUST AMES, AUDREY BITONI, KEISHA GREY, ABIGAIL MAC, ARIANA MARIE are top of the list at the moment. I'll probably try to give Abigail Mac or Sheridan Love a call first. Arianatoobusyandpopular, Keisatoobusyandindemand, Audreytoocoolanduninterested, Augusttoobusyandsexyandpopular, and Angelatoosexyandbusy. Plus, I'm still unsure if these girls really are offering their numbers, but I do trust the above poster's word. If these girls are this cool and friendly with their fans, then I'm a happy camper :) Let's help this business boom! [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 1:35AM ^ If you're just looking to test out the system first (and not looking to spend much money in the process), Abigail's number is actually "free". As in, you have to pay I think a dollar to get any free number so they can make sure you have a valid payment method on file. But after that, you can get her number, and send texts to her for free. Everything else (including receiving texts back) you do have to pay for. [Link]
Imaladyman Member 434 Posts 7/15	Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 2:07AM Thanks dude :) That's a great idea! Do you know how much a number costs, on average? [Link]

whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 2:32AM ^ I can't give you an average as I haven't looked at all the profiles, but there's a decent amount that are free, a few that can be found as cheap as 15 coins (Rachel Starr being one at that price) and some as high as 60-70 coins. Looking right now I'm seeing quite a few that are around 30-50 coins for their numbers. But again, you have to remember that the number is one purchase, and then sending messages to them (or calling them) costs money on top of that. And every performer on the site has all their rates listed if you visit their page, so you can know beforehand how much everything is going to cost. [Link]
Imaladyman Member 434 Posts 7/15	Posted - Apr 1 2016 : 2:45AM Thank you for your help. I'll let you know how it goes when I get a couple numbers [Link]
jdbella New Member 4 Posts 4/16	Posted - Apr 10 2016 : 2:26PM Hey guys - I can't tell you from experiences texting anyone, but I can tell you from experience on the other side of the coin. Bryci is my wife. She is on dreamlover as well. She gets txt's often and almost no matter what we're doing, she disappears into another room for awhile. I'll later ask her what's up, and she replies, txting with a fan. I have found photos in our iphoto stream that were graphic, and I'd ask her.. so.. this for candids (for her website) and she'll say.. no, that was for Tom or Henry or whatever the guy's name was. She said often she'll just sit and talk with guys to get to know them better. I was surprised to know that more than half of the guys, aren't txting to have phone sex or txt sex, they're just txting to hang out because at that particular moment, they're bored. So from what I have seen first hand, it's real. [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - Apr 10 2016 : 8:33PM ^ I actually heard the same thing when I was talking to one of the male performers that was on the site as well (they don't market it much, but they do have men on the site as well). He told me that most of the women that text aren't actually talking about anything sexual, they just want to talk. They're bored, or they're lonely. [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 7:12AM whatsatelephonebill wrote: ^ I actually heard the same thing when I was talking to one of the male performers that was on the site as well (they don't market it much, but they do have men on the site as well). He told me that most of the women that text aren't actually talking about anything sexual, they just want to talk. They're bored, or they're lonely. Click to expand There was a thread about dreamlover.com (phone sex???) and I wanted to post but for some reason it kept asking me to sign in and I was already signed in. My comment is that I noticed that some girls when they first started out were into any and all opportunities to make money; webcamming, phone, escorting, dancing, you name it. Many came to realize there was more to being a porn actor than just fucking and sucking on camera. It's a full time job!!! One girl I followed, Kennedy Leigh started doing dreamlover in 2013 along with Streamate, her sites for those two venues are still up, but she hasn't done dreamlover for over two years or more, and her last appearance on Streamate was Dec 13, 2014, but yet these sites still carry her, although they have probably disconnected her access. So beware before you sign up or buy anything. For example, she has a website, Kennedyleigh.com, and if you log into it, it says "coming soon." It's been "coming soon" for over three years. It seems that for all intents and purposes Kennedy has sort of dropped out of active work and just hasn't punched the "retired" button yet. Her Twitter site is mostly horoscopes and occasional photo's usually two or more years old. She probably never even thinks of dreamlover anymore. I've read that some guys call dreamlover just to have a chance to actually talk to one of their favorites, no sex talk at all. I totally get that. What I'm saying. is before you spend your money, do your research. [Link]
Aya Senior Member All The Cool Girls Are Lesbians 7439 Posts 6/14	Posted - May 21 2016 : 7:19AM I always find it funny how surprised people still are when they find how many people just want somebody to talk to and listen to them, and that's it's not always about getting off. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 21 2016 : 8:47AM ^ Yeah, companionship is a massive part of sex work. That's not sad or weird. It's entirely understandable. People look at Japan and their companionship businesses as if they're weird for not pursuing sex. Yet, we have that same system here in many different spheres, just not labeled as such. [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 10:25AM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ Yeah, companionship is a massive part of sex work. That's not sad or weird. It's entirely understandable. People look at Japan and their companionship businesses as if they're weird for not pursuing sex. Yet, we have that same system here in many different spheres, just not labeled as such. Click to expand I understand that for any number of reasons why some guys pursue "relationships" with porn stars or sex workers. I was stationed in Japan for two years early in my career and trust me, the social mores that govern "companionship" if you're referring to Geisha's go back centuries. Geisha translates to "art person" in English and these women are recruited at a very young age and are restricted from marriage and having children. They are held in high regard in Japanese society as long as they follow the rules. Many prostitutes in clubs in Japan are Asian but not Japanese, and young white women from America are still lured to Japan by "talent agencies" to sing and dance but are soon forced into prostitution by their Yakuza bosses. Some make thousands and return home after a year, some disappear. Many if not all porn stars rely on the "number of reasons" on their social sites like Twitter to charm and play guys for gifts on there Amazon Wish Lists, and this was discussed quite well by a guy named RobFTV in one of these forums, and his insight was hilarious but true. I admire girls like Veronica Rodriguez who take advantage of every opportunity to earn, and play it straight with their fans. VR is appearing here in CT this weekend feature dancing at a club, I doubt some of these girls would bother to come here to CT and would rather stay in CA, NV, or AZ hustling. I guess my point with Dreamlover is the same with all the other hustles. Before you invest in property in River City, make sure there is a River City. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 21 2016 : 10:33AM ^ I was also referring to things like host and hostess clubs. In the documentary, WHORE'S GLORY (highly recommended), the female Thai sex workers would leave work and go spend their cash at a local host bar. Here in America, we pay for services that are ostensibly about a particular act (haircuts, massage, etc) but are often about human connection, or the act is expected to come with that human connection. I myself have been hired for landscaping by people who seemed to want me to sit and have coffee with them more than they wanted me to weed. That's fine, though it made me feel a bit guilty for not doing any work. Then I realised that I actually was working, doing emotional labor. [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 11:36AM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ I was also referring to things like host and hostess clubs. In the documentary, WHORE'S GLORY (highly recommended), the female Thai sex workers would leave work and go spend their cash at a local host bar. Here in America, we pay for services that are ostensibly about a particular act (haircuts, massage, etc) but are often about human connection, or the act is expected to come with that human connection. I myself have been hired for landscaping by people who seemed to want me to sit and have coffee with them more than they wanted me to weed. That's fine, though it made me feel a bit guilty for not doing any work. Then I realised that I actually was working, doing emotional labor. Click to expand Yes, that's exactly what they call them in Japan "hostesses" samo-samo. Your insight is right on the money. It seems that younger people and "millennials" spend more time with their noses in their IPhones and tablets, and little time enjoying personal one-on-one interaction. If you can't say it in 15 words or less, don't bother. Why actually talk to someone face to face when you can text them. A lot of these "stars" rely on this on their Twitter accounts and use it to prey on dupes for stuff. One girl "Alison Angel" (a name out of the past) is very positive about always thanking someone for a gift, regardless of what it is and plays it straight; she's also a pretty nice person. Another girl more often than not would simply ignore a person's generosity, and when a guy would tweet her asking if she got the gift she was sometimes kind of "snooty." However, in her case, "What goes around comes around" if you get my drift. If you haven't already, check out Jenna Jameson's autobiography, she writes a lot about this. [Link]

Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10	Posted - May 21 2016 : 11:51AM Aya wrote: I always find it funny how surprised people still are when they find how many people just want somebody to talk to and listen to them, and that's it's not always about getting off. Click to expand It's not? [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 12:02PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ Yeah, companionship is a massive part of sex work. Click to expand I seem to remember a rather headed debate here on ADT when I was talking about this and everyone saying I was full of it to some degree. yes, fellas, men don't always hire an escort to have sex, sometimes it is just to talk over dinner or have a gorgeous woman to show you around. Not every one (especially if they are married), want to have that extra risk of pregnancy or STI's (perceived or real) or want to have sex with someone who is having sex with many men a week. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 21 2016 : 12:14PM ^ I remember that and I think I weighed in to support that yes, Cindy is correct. People have incredibly blinkered and narrow ideas about intimacy and what is worth investing in. It's quite sad. [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 1:16PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ I remember that and I think I weighed in to support that yes, Cindy is correct. People have incredibly blinkered and narrow ideas about intimacy and what is worth investing in. It's quite sad. Click to expand There was a very interesting movie out a few years ago starring Woody Harrelson playing a high class male escort in Washington DC who became involved in murder investigation. He and is counterparts were escorts to upper level women and were very successful and well off, no sex strictly companionship. If some guy can afford $1500+ to be "escorted" around Vegas by a good looking woman, good for him. The discussion Cindy was involved in was about PornStars who escort. A friend of mine came over from Germany to Vegas on a job and wanted to meet up with this Porn Star he liked, He arranged a date with an agency and she met him at his hotel, They went to dinner, did a little gambling and then the moment of truth. He was expecting "Tonights Girlfriend" by the time she laid out the "do's and don't's" he thanked her for her time and sent her on her way. Between everything, it cost him $3000, he was not pleased. [Link]
Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09	Posted - May 21 2016 : 1:18PM ^ He thought he could do whatever he wanted? Has he never engaged in a business contract before? Strange. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 2:39PM jzalski wrote: He was expecting "Tonights Girlfriend" by the time she laid out the "do's and don't's" he thanked her for her time and sent her on her way. Between everything, it cost him $3000, he was not pleased. Click to expand I think that is an example of when a man needs to communicate better or ask questions. Just assuming something and going forward can lead to problems like this. PS - my business friend I told you about , spent 4 or 5 weekends last year in Vegas.. and the investors paid a particular woman to be his companion for the weekend somewhere around 10 grand and it was a non sexual thing (although they would kiss and go to a strip club and make out with the clothing on). This particular group of wealthy men did things this way because they enjoyed strutting around town with hot women and they also GASP loved their wives and didn't want to risk fucking up their marriage just to have an orgasm. (Stis, pregnancy, extortion or blackmail, etc) They often were booking retired porn girls who were out of the sex industry but were in the sugar daddy life or just wanted to make money this way. Everyone is happy and nobody should be condemned for this. A lot of sex workers are thrilled at companionship arrangements and not to be treated as an "orgasm sack" like most people meet them for. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 5/21/2016 2:44:11 PM [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 2:50PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: ^ He thought he could do whatever he wanted? Has he never engaged in a business contract before? Strange. Click to expand The agency involved had a very in depth disclaimer regarding "escorts" being involved in actual solicitation. It covered them pretty well. He said she was a very pleasant young woman, with a great sense of humor. He also said she was a little heavier than her pictures, a little "shop worn" but still pretty, and she enjoyed her booze. I got the impression he was expecting some romance, and what was offered was a pretty sterile, dispassionate encounter. He said that after she laid out the rules, he felt he should have brought a "condom suit." The lesson for me was, with all the STDs, and other issues out there, maybe it's best not to get involved at all. Maybe going the Dreamlover, MyFreeCams, etc. route is just a better deal all around. You're right as well and maybe a phone conversation prior to the actual meeting might have solved some of the problems early on. [Link]
Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 3:10PM ^ It is also about someone's financial resources. For one person $3000 with a hot woman for a night is awesome , for someone else it is a serious amount of cash and is appalling if they perceive they didn't get "full value" such as taking a shot at her weight or being "worn out". Not everyone is cut out for the prices and style of porn performer escorting. Maybe sometimes it is best just to play with $300 on backpages for many people. [mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/21/2016 4:44:37 PM [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 21 2016 : 3:52PM ^ I agree with you completely about financial resources. Knowing my friend, I don't think he was taking a shot, as he did say she was pleasant, had a great sense of humor as well. I've read other comments from guys who actually went to an "in call" situation with one girl and from what he described as far as the neighborhood, her overall appearance as so on, he had more guts than me. I have learned a lot reading these forums, and also doing research into the so-called "backpages" if some of these girls actually look like the photos they post, it would be quite an experience. I saw a picture of this girl that she posted on her Twitter site back in January, it was in an SUV and the Tweet said 4:30am. Honestly, she looked like a combination of tired, drunk or stoned. Probably on her way back to the agency or the airport. I looked at a picture of her taken a couple of years earlier and it was kind of sad to see how she had aged. I don't think that this girl is anything like the "high-end" women that Canadian_Cindy refers to. Maybe sometimes, it's better to enjoy the fantasy, than to see the reality. [mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/21/2016 4:45:04 PM [Link]
whatsatelephonebill Senior Member 2935 Posts 10/11	Posted - May 21 2016 : 8:57PM jzalski wrote: whatsatelephonebill wrote: ^ I actually heard the same thing when I was talking to one of the male performers that was on the site as well (they don't market it much, but they do have men on the site as well). He told me that most of the women that text aren't actually talking about anything sexual, they just want to talk. They're bored, or they're lonely. Click to expand There was a thread about dreamlover.com (phone sex???) and I wanted to post but for some reason it kept asking me to sign in and I was already signed in. My comment is that I noticed that some girls when they first started out were into any and all opportunities to make money; webcamming, phone, escorting, dancing, you name it. Many came to realize there was more to being a porn actor than just fucking and sucking on camera. It's a full time job!!! One girl I followed, Kennedy Leigh started doing dreamlover in 2013 along with Streamate, her sites for those two venues are still up, but she hasn't done dreamlover for over two years or more, and her last appearance on Streamate was Dec 13, 2014, but yet these sites still carry her, although they have probably disconnected her access. So beware before you sign up or buy anything. For example, she has a website, Kennedyleigh.com, and if you log into it, it says "coming soon." It's been "coming soon" for over three years. It seems that for all intents and purposes Kennedy has sort of dropped out of active work and just hasn't punched the "retired" button yet. Her Twitter site is mostly horoscopes and occasional photo's usually two or more years old. She probably never even thinks of dreamlover anymore. I've read that some guys call dreamlover just to have a chance to actually talk to one of their favorites, no sex talk at all. I totally get that. What I'm saying. is before you spend your money, do your research. Click to expand To kinda/sorta get back to the original point of this thread, the last time Kennedy logged into Dreamlover was 2 months ago. So even while she's been inactive on social media, she's had some activity on it. [Link]

jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 22 2016 : 3:44AM ^ Interesting. Thanks for the update. I stopped following KL back in January. I suppose you can log in, look around and log out. Prior to that she rarely mentioned Dreamlover or the other webcam site she used to do. I enjoy following girls on Twitter that are fun and interact with their fans. KL got too weird, and it was kind of a downer. [mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/22/2016 9:43:23 AM [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 22 2016 : 8:24AM whatsatelephonebill wrote: ...the last time Kennedy logged into Dreamlover was 2 months ago. So even while she's been inactive on social media, she's had some activity on it. Click to expand After I read your quote I did a little research. KL's Dreamlover page has a few disparities. First, she's not 20, she's now 22. The header photo she uses is over 2 years old, and the first photo in the gallery of Instagram photos is more like what she looks like today, it was posted nearly 6 months ago and may have been taken in Vegas, which is where she is "working", a topic for another area of this forum. I followed KL almost from the beginning and enjoyed not only her scenes, but her obvious intelligence, talent, and her sense of humor. Times change and people don't always make the right decisions or choose the right friends. Like I said, I follow girls on Twitter that are fun and interact with fans, not to be bored and depressed. [mod edit: cropped quote. From the ADT forum etiquette: "Please don't quote people's entire posts - quote only relevant sections or address the person by name."] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 5/22/2016 9:44:49 AM [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - May 22 2016 : 9:46AM People, please, let's stop with the excessive quotes of quotes of quotes. If you're responding to the person above you, don't quote their post. Just type what you want to say, and put a ^ at the beginning of your post. If you're worried no one will know who you're speaking to, just include their username at the beginning of your post. If you do need to quote some text, just quote the part you're responding to, and delete the rest. Thank you all. And please, do not quote this. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - May 22 2016 : 10:24AM killbillvol69 wrote: And please, do not quote this. Click to expand You realize that is like writing don't push this over a button. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08	Posted - May 22 2016 : 10:37AM ^ Damnit! It's true. haha. [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 22 2016 : 3:49PM Again, thanks for the info. I get it. Look forward to more discussion on this topic. This is no BS, I have learned a great deal since joining this group. [Link]
jzalski Deactivated User 135 Posts 10/15	Posted - May 23 2016 : 8:29AM ^ In regards to Dreamlover, I decided to do a little research about this site and the payout models receive for their efforts. As you can see, this page is a forum not unlike ours, and it contained some very interesting information. By using social media, and the Dreamlover page on Twitter, a model can make some pretty good money, and the woman describing the info, didn't even get into Skype, or other camming deals the model can offer. Of course, like any other self-promotion, you have to be willing to put in the time and effort. If a guy is going to pay $69.00 for a months access to a model's phone number, the model has to be available to play along, and it isn't cheap. There were several other sites that offered even more in-depth info, but this one seemed more from a personal perspective. I also went to the Twitter page to see how model's would advertise, again, many we all know were there, some others we know were not, and I went back to March 2016. https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?198555-Dreamlover-a-new-egg-make-money-with-sms-mms-and-phone [Link]