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Diesel
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516 Posts
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Posted - Sep 17 2000 : 10:52PM
Most DVD extras don't really interest me, but I am especially tired of Photo Galleries which are really nothing more than stills of the video feature. If they want to give us real pictures, at least let them be publicity shots, press kit photos, or anything which might be remotely original.
Endorphin
Luminary

1185 Posts
3/00
Posted - Sep 17 2000 : 11:02PM
Agreed...If I wanna see a still of the movie I'll press pause. We don't need features for people who don't have a pause button or know how to use it.
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Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Sep 17 2000 : 11:22PM
I agree 100%. Picture galleries are a waste of disc space and editing time. I haven't looked at one since I reviewed Chasing Stacy. I've seen at least a dozen other titles since then. I REALLY HATE when there's no way to exit the picture loop. That's a sign of poor authoring.
On a different note. I did like the silly commercial on Shane's World 19. Stuff like that is entertainment.
Pat-Chloe-Fan
Member

189 Posts
2/00
Posted - Sep 18 2000 : 3:16PM
I too can do without the pointless photo galleries!
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Darkmage
Member

State of Denial
328 Posts
11/99
Posted - Sep 18 2000 : 3:39PM
I'll throw in my vote to an end to photo galleries as well.
Now that we have that out of the way, I don't really like the occasional "we also recommend..." links to other features by that production company, if they don't contain actual previews. This doesn't happen too often, but occasionally you'll get a screen that is nothing but a bunch of box covers. Bleh.
Oh, and would someone ditch those fucking "virtual rooms" where you click on a picture on the wall to see thirty seconds of some random scene from some other movie? The only thing worse is Kobe Tai's little interactive sex toy where you're somehow supposed to know that clicking on the ashtray means "play the part where I'm getting a blowjob."
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Janitor
Retired

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6409 Posts
11/99
Posted - Sep 18 2000 : 3:50PM
not an extra, but i'm starting to have a real issue with overly complex menus - i can't even tell what i'm selecting and they take forever to load - and often the music loop is excessively loud.
rutigar
Member

95 Posts
7/00
Posted - Sep 18 2000 : 5:09PM
I too hate the photo galleries, boxcover shots and loud menu music. Porn companies please stop! I think we'd all prefer to watch a few bonus scenes or previews instead. And I don't mean the Vivid virtual room excuse for bonus scenes either, I'm talking more along the lines of VCA.
Bill All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5334 Posts
6/00
Posted - Sep 18 2000 : 7:28PM
If a DVD has an excellent transfer, and properly placed chapter stops, and maybe a chapter selection menu (if doesn't need to be a full-motion menu), I'm very happy.
I can't say that I really care if anything else exists. Too many companies are spending too much time on adding extra things to disks (because they can, or because it's cool), and not spending enough time making sure that the transfer of the movie is any good.
greybeard
Member

181 Posts
8/00
Posted - Sep 19 2000 : 1:35PM
I fully agree with Mr. Broderick! The primary reason most of us buy DVDs is to watch the "feature" presentation, or to get a better-quality copy of a film or tape we liked on VHS. I have no need for all the extra &%$# they insist on including, all of which costs "real-estate" on the DVD which could be put to better use on higher-quality transfers and, might I add, including the _entire_ feature!
A few trailers are always nice, but just give me a simple menu with which to select them, not some clunky, amateurish "game" interface most CD-ROM producers would have rejected! Most of the "alternative angles" I've seen included on a lot of these discs are second- or third-camera footage, or alternate shots that the editor and director (most often wisely) chose to leave out of the original edit.
All of this costs space on a DVD, which leaves us with less-than-optimum picture quality and severely edited (especially Vivid) content. "Bad Wives" is a good example -- the picture originally ran about 140 minutes on VHS. The Vivid DVD is loaded with the above-mentioned junk, but the actual feature runs about 75 minutes! That is totally unacceptable!!
astroknight All-Star Supporter
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4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - Sep 19 2000 : 2:24PM
The photo galleries could easily disappear. Occasionally there's one with something new, but I'd much rather the companies put more effort into the movie itself. I agree that the movie itself should never suffer for the sake of the extras (Bad Wives being the extreme case), although I'd take extras over DTS sound. Although VCA has got some good extras, I really hate how they're editing quite a few of their movies.
Most of Vivid's extras could be forgotten. What a miserable excuse for extra scenes. 30 seconds of a scene and if you like it, they don't even tell you where to go for the entire thing.
JKRULL
Jill Kelly Productions

beverly hills California
99 Posts
7/00
Posted - Sep 19 2000 : 8:39PM
I hate photo galleries as well. They will still be on the DVD'S we have in production, as our customers, the occasional viewer has
asked for them. ( we actually asked the consumers) But I do expect them to fade away.They are a pain the ass, to tell the truth.
I think Behind the scenes is great, and bonus scenes - from start to finish- are way cool- and enhance value. Also every once in a while a cool "gadget" feature is fun, but at the end of the day- it is the transfer and content that is important.
Substance is what counts, clean easy to use menus, quality trailers, commercials in a seperate menu choice (hate when phone sex shows up on DVD movies)
As I read reviews thats what matters.
If the movie sucks- or transfer sucks- or music sucks- who really cares about some interactive "room" or whatever the heck that place is, where no one seems to get into anyway.
But I know whats going to happen, someone is going to get a hold of one our new titles, and bash it for not having enough "extra's"
I guarantee it.
So we will continue to try to find a happy middle, not enough stuff to be obnoxious, and enhance viewing experience, with excellent transfer.
ONE BIG QUESTION- WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK OF THE WEBSITE/INTERNET ACCESS?
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David Lord
Member

236 Posts
9/00
Posted - Sep 21 2000 : 9:43AM
You're never going to please everyone. I am a DVD fanatic and a photo gallery doesn't mean anything to me. I put them on our discs for the people that it does matter to. Remember not to long ago in porn's past, picture discs sold like hot cakes. I never understood it. When I buy a DVD it is all about the features. Behind the scenes, audio, deleted scenes, bonus scenes, and uncut versions being frontrunners. Some adult companies try and put to much on a one sided disc. DVD-5 holds about 120 min of high quality video, and DVD-9 hold about 220 minutes. That's all video on the DVD too. The buttons being video captures, the main and sub menus being a rendered animation or video, and that pesky little photo gallery sometimes being video. Add trailers and bogus angles .man that's a lot to put on a one-sided disc. Keeping in mind garbage in garbage out. The cost of a DVD-9 is almost double that of a five .So some companies that want to put so called multiple angles (yea right), a million trailers so you might buy something else they made, (I do a couple he he) and a 120 min movie on a DVD-5 will always pump out crappy video quality DVD. Being a fan of DVD, when I get a flat no features run-o-the-mill DVD I'm pissed (Fargo). I want to give people the most features (real ones) for their money, and put out stuff that if I bought it I would be glad I did.
Oh and web-jumps...same as above. I don't use them a lot, but I want it there for people that do.

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Wicked Pictures

astroknight All-Star Supporter
Questionable Moderator

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4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - Sep 21 2000 : 10:55AM
First, welcome to ADVD, David.
Second, this is great to hear from Wicked Pictures. You guys have had great stuff in the past, and it's great to hear what you aim for in an adult DVD and what we can expect in the future. Thanks!
tricia_devereaux
Evil Angel DVD

Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous?
4283 Posts
4/00
Posted - Sep 30 2000 : 6:12PM
I agree with JKrull and David.
Except that I LOVE photo galleries. At first, we were putting on still frames from the actual video. But I talked my authorer into scanning production stills. Whenever I rent a mainstream DVD, it takes me about 3-4 hours to get through the disc because I love all of the features.
Not that picture quality should suffer for it, and the video should NEVER get edited except for legal reasons (I won't even bother ranting about that!). But there can be a happy medium I think.
And just to defend my photo gallery decision a little, for those of you who may not know, the relative amount of disc space that the photo gallery takes up is VERY VERY little. Otherwise, I might have to let go of one of my favorite features.
Tricia -- Evil Angel DVD



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