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Posted - Nov 13 2001 : 1:30PM
OK, I am back, unfortunately, with another excruciatingly boring post.

Back in July I bought the Voyeur 18 DVD from Five Star, I think. I played it a couple of times and noticed some problems: my player would not play some portions of the disc. As I was slightly disappointed with the DVD anyway, for reasons I shall not get into here (probably too high expectations regarding one of the girls), I did not investigate the matter further at that time.

Yesterday I was archiving some of my DVDs, and noticed something new about this disc. There is a ring of what looks like tiny scratches near the outer edge of the DVD, as you may be able to see from this image:

It is quite probable that this ring of damage is the cause of the problems I encountered with this disc.My first guess was that this was caused by some unknown problem with the manufacturing process.

However, when I inspected the DVD case, I noticed that the profile of the part under the DVD is such that the part of the DVD where the tiny scratches are rests against the bottom of the case. So, if the DVD is able to rotate in the case, this could cause the scratches (and it does rotate fairly freely, apparently scraping against the bottom).

Has anyone else run into similar problems? I doubt it is possible to return the disc after so much time, and it doesn't really matter that much to me, but perhaps this helps to prevent the problem.
(To complicate my second hypothesis, I have another DVD in similar packaging, and it is in perfect condition.)

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Posted - Nov 13 2001 : 1:40PM
I don't know what caused it, but that doesn't sound anything like the stories of rot that I've heard (A surface cloudiness that can only be seen under high-intensity light, images breaking up shortly before crashing. Also, all the titles named as having rot came from the same plant).
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Posted - Nov 13 2001 : 2:14PM
It's not dvd rot, it looks like it was caused by scatching. I've seen a couple of discs like that.
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Posted - Nov 13 2001 : 7:13PM
I don't think that the scratches at the outer edge were the cause of the playback problems. DVDs (like CDs) play from the center ring outwards. While DVD playback can be random access I assume it's generally linear from the center outwards. Scratches in the playback surface along the outer edges might not even be in the playable region. I could be wrong though. I'm not an expert.
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Posted - Nov 14 2001 : 10:59AM
Well, this DVD is a dual layer disc, and those usually play first outwards (first layer) and then back inwards from the outer edge (second layer). The playback problems do not occur in the beginning, but somewhere in the middle (if I recall correctly, it skips one chapter or jumps into some other part of the disc). I am pretty sure there is still data in the damaged area, which would be where the layer change occurs.


 
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Posted - Nov 14 2001 : 3:24PM
Check how deep the scratches are.
1 very deep scratch is more likely to cause problems than several light ones, so if you can spot a single deep scratch, thats probably the cause.
To check if its disc rot, jump straight to the part where the layer changes, if the layer change plays fine, then that should eliminate disc rot as the cause.
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Nov 14 2001 : 3:51PM
I took a look at some of our cases, and actually pushed the edge of the disc down as I was rotating the disc, and it didn't seem to cause any scratches.
Of course, these were new cases.
I suppose if a case was dirty and had some particles in the hub area, if the disc rotated on top of them, it could get scratched.
As for the problems with the disc, if yours did get scratched somehow, this would explain why it was jumping.

I haven't had any previous complaints about Voyeur 18 yet.

Tricia
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Posted - Nov 15 2001 : 11:14AM
Well, thanks to everyone for the input, and special thanks to Tricia. All this helpfulness makes it even more embarrassing for me to say that when I actually played the disc yesterday, I did not notice any problems.

I did upgrade the firmware in my trusty Philips DVD player some time ago, which may have fixed the skipping problem.
To be on the safe side, and to conserve space, I moved the disc into a slim CD case, where it should not get scratched further.

Correction! I spoke too soon!!!

The skipping problem is still there, I just misremembered the place where it is. At approximately 1h40m the picture freezes for a few seconds and then jumps into 1h50m. I can still get to the missing 10 minutes by rewinding the picture after the skip.

Would the layer change be at 100 minutes, by any change?

Edited by - reason on Nov 15 2001




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