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| jenhonley Member 38 Posts 4/08 | Several titles that I'm interested in purchasing advertise that they were shot in HD and yet I can not find a Blu-ray release for the title. One example is Diabolic's New To The Game series. Will these DVD titles be released in Blu-ray eventually when prices drop? Why advertise HD on a DVD title with no Blu-ray option? [Link] |
| Mihx Member 12 Posts 12/09 | Edited by - Mihx on 12/17/2009 9:30:08 AM |
| markaudess Marie Madison Media 68 Posts 2/04 | Marie (Madison) decided to begin shooting in HD years ago to enable us a bit of 'future proof-ness' (if that's even a word haha) so that we would have as many options as the technology gives us in the future. For now, HD versions of our films are only available on line, and I can't even say for sure that BluRay is in our future. I don't personally think BluRay is the 'New DVD' that it was taughted to be by Sony a few years back. It seems to me that HD Cable, Satalite and High Speed Web Connections are giving the format a run for it's money. The 'Shot in HD' tag on the box isn't anyone's attempt to pick up sales by deception. In most cases, it is an indicator of the picture quality. Before anyone freaks out, I said 'most cases'. It's technical, but here's the deal. Standard Definition (which all DVD's are encoded in) is usually an image that's 720 X 480 pixels. High Def is a minimum of 1280 X 720. There's also a flavor of 'HD' that many call 'True HD' that's 1940 X 1080. More than DOUBLE the resolution of the SD image size. Now, thru the process of encoding for DVD, the image is effectively reduced by more than half, which also doubles the resolution, making for a very crisp, clear picture quality. Think of it this way. When you shoot a photo with your Digital Camera, and then reduce it by say 50 to 100% for the purpose of e-mailing or whatever, you are doubling the pixel count. It's why the smaller image looks so damn sharp. This is essentially what's happening when you 'Shoot on HD' and release on Standard Resolution DVD. I'm by no means an expert on this, but these are the basics. There are dozens of film and video editors on ADT who can probably be even more technical than this. But the point is still, 'Shot in HD' isn't meant to dupe anyone, it's intended to show the consumer that the picture quality is technically better than 'standard' Standard Resolution. - Mark Edited by - markaudess on 12/17/2009 10:29:17 AM |
| jenhonley Member 38 Posts 4/08 | I was wondering why Blu-ray is not being produced more and suspected it was something to do with cost. If HD-DVD had won the war would it be in a similar cost-prohibitive production position? Or was HD-DVD more affordable to produce and manufacture? Would everything have an HD-DVD version today if HD-DVD had won the war? I was rooting for HD-DVD when the format war was going on. |
| markaudess Marie Madison Media 68 Posts 2/04 | It's been a long time since the 'HD-DVD vs BluRay' war raged on. At the time, I was rooting for HD-DVD also, and I was one of those people predicting that it was going to win, simply based on the fact that it seemed it was the format Porn was embracing. The big studio's started putting their first HD titles out on HD-DVD, not BluRay, and then slowly switched over as it became clear Sony was going to win that war. It's my opinion that Sony won the war by attrition. Having the cash to buy up all the big content producers like MGM and Disney I think was the factor that turned the battle in their favor. They just put out so many more 'hit' titles on BluRay that the consumer didn't really have a choice. Technically, both formats present video in the same quality. The differences were only technical, with the exception that HD-DVD had the ability to be written on DVD's. Again, I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I understand it would have been cheaper for existing DVD Manufacturing plants to retrofit their lines, rather than buy rooms full of new gear as they had to for BluRay. For the sake of Porn, HD-DVD would have enabled amateurs to burn HD content onto DVD-R's and make them available to fans at a much more reasonable cost. I think we would have seen much more content on HD media had this occurred, and who knows how that would have swayed consumer's. Oh well... you can't fight 'City Hall'. - Mark |
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| markaudess Marie Madison Media 68 Posts 2/04 | HD on the web looks great, and it's going to become more and more popular with the consumers as connection speeds get faster and faster. Many of our HD Clip buyers like to watch the clips on their PS3, which I have to say, is a great integration of the web and the tele box. I agree with you that BluRay's the new 'laserdisc'. When I watch a mainstream movie, I'm way more apt to rent the HD version on cable than buy the BluRay. I own only a handful of BluRays and they are all sentimental favorites (like "Fight Club")and none of them are Adult. Pay attention folks, Mr. Quasar is one of those who know way more about this stuff than I do. :) - Mark |
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Tyler Durden: Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off. |
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| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Not sure what they were thinking, but why you would adopt a video format (and push it as a universal standard) that costs twice as much to make and expect consumers to accept paying almost double the cost for a product (movies, not even players) - as smart as buying a cartoon TV/movie on BluRay. Granted the definition is much better, but sales has always been struggling before the recession. With the recession, I don't see it happening (not talking about methodology of including bundling free BluRay movies). Numbers don't compute with economy in the tank, 10% unemployed, ridiculous rate of essential products/services, and minimum wage only up 40% (compared to 100% premium from old DVD movie to BluRay). Part of me wishes HD DVD was still around to provoke competition against Sony. I'm guessing it'll take mass adoption of Blu-Ray (much more than now) to make BluRay movie prices to come down, but don't see it happening esp. in today's climate. Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 12/19/2009 6:49:17 PM |
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| markaudess Marie Madison Media 68 Posts 2/04 | There's over 300 titles a month released from Big mainstream retailers and I would guess double or triple that in the adult world. I don't have a ton of time to myself, so I have to really pick and choose what I spend my time on, more than the issue of money. For us, at Maddy G Productions, it's one of our founding business models, to keep every single title in print on DVD, which I'm learning more and more is something rare. It seems that after the initial manufacturing run, when those titles are gone, they are gone - for the vast majority of adult movies. Re-ordering at the store level just doesn't seem to happen, because of the amount of 'fresh' product coming in every week. Unless something is a gigantic seller (like your 'Pirates') it's just not re-ordered by the store even if they sell out of thier initial stock of 5 - 10 pieces. We're making a point to make sure that every title we put out is always available on DVD and unless Marie (Madison) drastically changes her opinion on this, it'll always be that way. And when or if BluRay comes down in manufacturing costs, or we gain the ability to do an affordable BD-R (BluRay Recordable) that actually works, that might be an option in the future. It seems more and more studio's are reducing the amount of physical product they put into the market, but hopefully we're not the only one's still putting so much focus on it. - Mark Maddy G |
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