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I love my porn, and have done my entire life. I did not grow up with sisters, and I do not have a daughter, so I am curious whether having either in your family has had any effect on your regard or taste for porn? For example: Are you less inclined to view rougher material? Did you shift to more mature adult actresses after your daughter reached age 18? In answering, please don't feel limited to the example questions. A full, intelligent discussion would be very welcome!
I can give this question a try. First, a little bit of background: I have a sister who's a few years younger than me. Growing up, I was never into girls her age because she was young enough that girls her age were still just "kids" in my eyes. But then at some point in my mid- to late-twenties, I couldn't help but notice that many girls I was attracted to weren't so far off from my sister's age anymore. It was kind of a creepy feeling. After a couple of brief relationships that didn't work out because the girl was a bit too young for me, and the same with my sister, where she dated guys who had goals too different from hers because of them being much older than her, she and I made a pact that I wouldn't date anyone younger than her, and she wouldn't date anyone older than me. It has actually worked out fairly well for both of us on at least a couple of occasions to avoid what in hindsight looks like it would have been a pretty disastrous relationship. So anyway, though I never discussed watching porn with my sister (we're close, but not that close), I also used to try to avoid porn with girls younger than she is as well. More recently I haven't, now that my sister is older than a lot of porn girls (she's in her mid-20's now), but I would say that I do still see porn girls younger than her in a different light than I see the ones who are older. When I watch porn scenes with girls who are older than my sister, I can often fantasize about dating them, what it would be like, etc. But when watching girls younger than my sister, I really just do treat it as a scene I'm watching to get off to right now, and the girl isn't anyone who I want to think of in any particular way at other times. At this point it's not a conscious choice anymore, it's just how I end up thinking of them. So all of the porn girls I consider to be my "faves" are older than my sister, even though I may find some of the girls younger than my sister to be quite hot - I just don't seem to have the same "connection" with their scenes. Does all that make sense?
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Posted - Oct 24 2008 : 2:21PM
There ain't much you've seen a porn star do that your grandmother, mother, aunt or sister haven't done... or that your daughter won't one day do....
@ KILLBILL (and @TYLERJ) Yes, your answer makes a lot of sense: sounds like your sister has become a kind of reference point, both for your porn and for your real-life relationships. That seems to me like a very natural thing to happen. Thank you for your interesting and considered answer. @ NEWROMANCER I agree with what you wrote in the sense that, yes, porn stars have sex, and so do most women (including one's relatives). But even if we left it at that level, I still think it might be a little weird (or at least different) jerking off, for example, to a porn actress who is younger than one's daughter. I think it gets even more interesting when one considers that porn is extremely different from real-life sex. I doubt very much, for example, that your grandmother, aunt or sister have ever done a gang-bang, been throat-fucked, DP'ed, bukkaked, or swapped cum with another girl or taken ass-to-mouth. These are more "out there" sex acts that most people don't do, and, frankly, probably wouldn't want their sisters or daughters doing. Thus, I could see how having a sister or daughter might make some difference in the way one reacts to such treatment of women . . .
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Posted - Oct 24 2008 : 3:19PM
"I still think it might be a little weird (or at least different) jerking off, for example, to a porn actress who is younger than one's daughter" The best thing about 18 year old girls is no matter how old I get, they stay 18. "I doubt very much, for example, that your grandmother, aunt or sister have ever done a gang-bang, been throat-fucked, DP'ed, bukkaked, or swapped cum with another girl or taken ass-to-mouth." You don't think that late 20th century porn 'invented' any of those things do you? There's nothing new under the sun.
^Of course these things existed before. But that doesn't mean that every female in the history of the universe has done each and every one of them. Both of your posts so far in this thread seem to have as their sole purpose to convince people that we need to think about their female relatives doing every sex act seen in porn. Why do you feel that this is important for us to do? [edit: I was switching persons in mid-sentence. It was awkward. Fixed now.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 10/24/2008 3:50:02 PM
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Posted - Oct 24 2008 : 3:49PM
Not at all... The point is, why stop viewing porn because someone you know MIGHT have done the same thing.... Why avoid porn that has 18 year olds in it, just because your daughter is 18... It's not like you're stoking off to your daughter... (Which is a whole different can of worms)
^Ah, I get you now. Fair enough. I think it's safe to say that I misunderstood you completely. Oops! To address your point, at least in terms of my own experience, I did at first try to "artificially" change my desires/tastes. It didn't work, but later I found that my tastes had changed anyway (not exactly in the way that I was trying to change them, but somewhat in that direction). In other words, I was trying to make myself not be into girls younger than my sister. That didn't happen. But when I gave that up, I noticed that I was into girls younger than my sister in a way that was different than how I was into girls older than my sister. Maybe that was as a result of what I did previously, maybe not. It's probably impossible to say for sure. All I know is that this is where my tastes are at now.
I don't have kids. I do have sisters. I think it's safe to say my porn interests are not influenced by that. I think porn interests are partially learned--things from your childhood, your relationships with friends, family, your life experiences. But I think some of it is hard-wired in your head--chemical reactions and electrical stimulation--stuff you couldn't control or change no matter what.
Yes It does make me think sometimes. Its kind of like when I was young, if you drove around and saw a girl walking along at night you would stop and try to pick her up with the idea of getting a root (nicely of course). Nowadays If I am driving along at night and see a young girl walking alone I get worried for her and want to stop to offer her a safe ride home, but do not feel able to as they might think I am a dirty old man (58) (which I am as I like porn) but I just think if it was my daughter out there ..... Regards Digby
I have a younger sister and she's well aware of my interest in porn, as do our parents. They've never really told me anything negative about it, at least not now that I'm an adult. My sis is no saint herself as she was once a stripper a few years ago but has since given up that crazy lifestyle to settle down and raise a family. As for myself, so long as hot babes wanna keep sucking and fucking for the cameras, I'll keep watching. Edited by - Asmodeus on 10/25/2008 1:58:40 PM
"Why avoid porn that has 18 year olds in it, just because your daughter is 18?" I don't think anyone in this thread is suggesting that anyone stop or avoid viewing any kind of porn! :) What I'm seeing in people's replies are two ideas: (1) on some fundamental level, hot young girls are always hot young girls ("The best thing about 18 year old girls is no matter how old I get, they stay 18"; "some of it is hard-wired in your head--chemical reactions and electrical stimulation--stuff you couldn't control or change no matter what"; "so long as hot babes wanna keep sucking and fucking for the cameras, I'll keep watching." (2) while having a sister or daughter does not erase the sexual desire for hot 18 year olds, it can complicate it. One might, for example, feel a certain protectiveness that might not otherwise have existed (example -- "Nowadays If I am driving along at night and see a young girl walking alone I get worried for her and want to stop to offer her a safe ride home....I just think if it was my daughter out there"). Other examples of how having a sister or daughter can complicate one's sexual desire -- "many girls I was attracted to weren't so far off from my sister's age anymore. It was kind of a creepy feeling"; "though I may find some of the girls younger than my sister to be quite hot - I just don't seem to have the same "connection" with their scenes." My impression is that these "complications" come about unconsciously and naturally, and not as a result of being told something, or of telling oneself something. Some possible mechanisms: having a sister causes a person to empathize with females differently; having to raise and protect a daughter (actively trying to ensure that she doesn't fall in with the "wrong crowd") gives a person different perspective, one slightly at odds with instincts that are aroused by porn. If anyone else has any thoughts on the topic, please do share them!
You do realize that sister's and daughter's come from the same type of sex as do sons and brothers, right? I can tell you that all three of my children were conceived during very kinky, rough sex. So no....you want children because of the love in your heart and the willingness to take on the responsibility of raising them responsibly. You want rough sex for entirely different more "base" reasons. The human range of emotions are incredibly complex and it's quite easy for me to engage in a variety of sexual scenarios without having issues considering my daughters being exposed (eventually) to same with their own respective partners. I say this with not a hint of arrogance: I want my daughters to find a man who respects them as much as I respect their mother. And one who will cater to their every whim, no matter how "kinky," the same way I have with my wife. My oldest is already dating and we've had MANY an open and frank conversation about sex. She is ready for the world. The only thing I worry about is the inevitable breaking of her heart....but even that is part of growing up. Sex and her exposure/enjoyment of same is hers to explore. I hope she waits for the right time, but it's her choice. It's my responsibility to ensure she feels confident enough to set her own boundaries AND confident enough to choose guys who are worthy of her, not the other way around. Now my younger daughter (14) is exhibiting some very interesting views towards lesbianism. That is new for me and I'm not entirely sure how to process this just yet. I'm all for her right to choose but for some odd reason she considers pre-marital sex with a guy to be off-limits but with another girl to be "fine." She says she HASNT yet, but in conversations about right versus wrong behaviors it's come up a few times. I'm completely thrown off as same-sex relationships are just alien to me. Unlike most men I don't even find girl-on-girl porn that interesting....some of it is OK but most is kinda just like watching a circus act to me. My wife has some bi-tendancies and has a fair number of girl crushes on celebs or porn performers out there (even a few porn stars....she couldn't take her eyes off of Mia Rose for over a year). So I struggle a bit with these types of convo's with my daughter. The boy/girl stuff I can relate to just fine and offer a good ear and so-so advice when needed. But for girl-girl relationships......fumble all over the place. Oh and as for moving from watching "young girl" porn to other. I realized a long, long time ago that most of the "Eighteen and Anal" flicks are NOT REALLY about 18 year old innocents. ;-) Porn is fantasy, not real...learn that and you can enjoy a healthy view towards almost all of it.
It didn't have an affect on me unless the actress looked something like my sister. If they did... Cover the eyes and fast foward. Then I make it point to never watch that actress.
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Posted - Oct 25 2008 : 7:58PM
A couple years ago I saw this porn/model chick who was mixed(black/asian)and she was fine as hell. But then at one point it dawned on me that her face looked like what my niece, who is also mixed like that, would grow up to look like and it really fucked up my head for awhile. I swore off looking at such chicks for awhile.
Have teen daughter; I've made my porn stash more secure over the years, and definitely get a little more self-conscious going to topless bars. But no, this doesnt prevent me form going, but I feel a bit more guilty on some moral level
I have no children, nor did I grow up with a sister. I've had female friends over the years, but I definitely make the distinction between a woman I want to fuck or a woman who could be a friend, or a woman about whom I'm not interested. I guess I need some mystery to feel sexual attraction. I've remained friends with only one ex-girlfriend. The only female figure in my life growing up was my mother. She was very attractive physically and very bright as well. Somewhat unattainable. The kind of chick I was usually attracted to when in my 20's and 30's. Maybe this explains why I've been single most of my life. I think had I grown up with a sister my view of and my relationships with females could have been more balanced. And then again maybe not.
Edited by - xformyzombie on 10/25/2008 10:06:23 PM
I have a 20 year old sister and while I know she is involved with her boyfriend, I am content not thinking about it and as hypocritical as it is, wouldn't want her to do porn. That said, my habits are my habits and she does not affect those.
Replace age with skin color and you've answered the question for me. I sometimes have a hard time watch black on black porn or WM/BF porn because of my sisters. I just dont like seeing black women in a degrading fashion. I know it's bullshit but I can't help it. Recently i've been getting into BOB porn more. I guess i'm getting over it. Vouyer has been putting out some quality and classy scenes with black women.
