^Yeah. She follows Blackedraw and Jason Luv. People expect a scene because of that.
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SuperFreak Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 14 2018 : 12:45AM
^ She tweeted that she already did a few ir scenes. I know she lies ( A lot). so who knows.
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CherokeeFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 15 2018 : 7:13PM
The next time you proclaim it's her coming up on Blacked and Blackedraw remember... 1. Just because you see a girl with a similar hair color in the pixelated pics it doesn't mean it's her. 2. She has made it pretty clear she doesn't want to do scenes with black guys. Edited by - CherokeeFan on 3/15/2018 7:15:24 PM
^ She probably just does it for the fame/money. But that's what most porn viewers love.
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CherokeeFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 16 2018 : 1:55AM
^^ Each girl has limits, point to artfuck was stop expecting her to show up on Blackedraw or any other site like it cause she has made it clear she's not interested or would be comfortable doing it. Edited by - CherokeeFan on 3/16/2018 2:01:19 AM
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SuperFreak Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 16 2018 : 2:01AM
^ She says a lot of stuff. She said on twitter she already did a few ir scenes. I doubt she is comfortable doing porn. money and attention
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CherokeeFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 17 2018 : 3:38AM
^Well she actually does porn. She doesn't shoot for Blackedraw or other similar sites like Blacked DarkX and so on and those sites have reached out to her. She is comfortable enough to do one and clearly isn't comfortable enough to do the other so not really an equivalency if that's what you're attempting to do.
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SuperFreak Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 17 2018 : 11:26AM
^ my point is this, She does stuff she is not comfortable doing. So why not do IR, which pays more... If she hasnt done IR yet, she eventually will. Guys, she is a pornstar lol
^She'll do IR this year and it will be with Jason Luv (Blacked.com). That's my predictioni. [Tweet is no longer available]
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Posted - Mar 17 2018 : 1:05PM
^ Idk. I do know she said she shot more than one IR scene.
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CherokeeFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 17 2018 : 3:16PM
^^^Yeah I understand the point you made but again however uncomfortable you feel she is doing porn she does it. Conversely Blackedraw Blacked DarkX and so on haven't been welcome knocks at her door because like I said earlier she has made it pretty clear she doesn't want to and isn't comfortable enough to actually do scenes with black guys and I feel like I'm stating the plainly obvious here.
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SuperFreak Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 17 2018 : 4:37PM
^ The obvious She fucks guys in her personal life She said she already shot ir scene that are going to be released in 2018 She isnt stupid. She is building up a demand from the fans. Porn companies will see this and offer to pay more money. Notice she is doing more anal scenes.
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CherokeeFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 17 2018 : 5:30PM
Not black guys. Reading between the lines it's clear she hasn't and there won't be. Yeah a lot of girls do this but as I said earlier it's obvious she doesn't actually plan on shooting IR like the girls who build up demand with the plan of shooting IR and actually shoot IR. They have already offered her more money and she hasn't taken them up on it because of the reasons I already mentioned. Plenty of girls do plenty of anal who have no desire to shoot IR.
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CherokeeFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 18 2018 : 6:03PM
^^ And she is hot right now. Let's face it she could receive whatever price offer she wanted from the top IR companies and could hand pick whatever black guy is allowed to work with her. There are plenty of normal sized black guys despite Dredd and Mandingo receiving a lot of attention. That she still turns down offers from all the top IR sites studios networks producers directors that want to book her shows that she doesn't want to do scenes with black guys like I mentioned previously. [Tweet is no longer available] [Tweet is no longer available] [Tweet is no longer available] [Tweet is no longer available] [Tweet is no longer available] [Tweet is no longer available]
Well she has a point lol. I think those tweets just reflect how open she is to us, maybe some were the heat of the moment after some requests. I'd bet today she can handle them better but I understand that even for a pornstar it could be strange being treated like an object. I remember like two years ago, after I congratulated her for a scene (can't remember if Mike Adriano or Perv City), she asked me if I wanted her to do a DP or a gangbang next, in an ironic way. Clearly she was getting used to those request, from people that maybe doesn't even pay for that lol. And that ladder is the reality of a lot of new pornstars today. Add younger to the "going fast" and that's what happening to a lot of new girls today. Maybe not all of their careers end bad, like Aidra Fox who maybe will retire in two years but she's still enjoying the trip and I love what she's done so far... but she's just 22!
^ The reality is that the "going fast" is a myth. Many girls go slow and end up no where, quitting in the same time span, if not less. Many girls "go fast" and end up in grand stardom. How fast a girl goes doesn't matter as much as their appearance and their performance. Elena's tactics just do nothing but make her available to less directors and available to less viewers, which only hurts her in the long run. It's also been quite a bit since she tweeted about shooting IR so I'm starting to feel honeydicked already.
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CherokeeFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 19 2018 : 6:47AM
^ It's pretty obvious that she wasn't telling the truth about already shooting IR and having multiple IR scenes released this year. ^^ There are multiple regular sized black guys in the industry. Sure we all know that Elena shooting a scene with one of those regular sized black guys would be billed as the most audacious thing she will have done basically on the level of a DP or a gangbang but realistically Elena shooting a scene with one of those regular sized black guys would just be a one-on-one vaginal only scene with a normal sized male performer. Totally extreme right?
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Posted - Mar 19 2018 : 5:01PM
She is now saying that she will shoot IR on her onlyfans but again it's obvious she's being sarcastic here. And again the size thing comes up which is funny because she has already shot with guys who have bigger dicks than some of the black guys in porn. [Tweet is no longer available] [Tweet is no longer available] Edited by - CherokeeFan on 3/19/2018 5:07:30 PM
^ I love how snarky she is being. I don't follow anyone on Twitter to know how frequent are the IR requests but it's quite understandable if she is just saturated of seeing people asking for IR.
^She needs to get over herself. She doesn't get bombarded all the time about it. I've seen maybe 2-3 posts since she started. If she doesn't want to do it, fine. She should only do what she's comfortable doing. There's no loss to the IR genre or porn period if she decides to stick with her current career path. There are plenty of girls doing IR. She can't take dick anyway. Always complaining about it. [:P)]
^ I think that she is gonna do IR given that she replied to Jason Luv in that twitter you presented, if she were against it at all, she probably wouldn't reply to any black talent. People that wants to see her doing IR will just have to endure a bit of her silliness. I think I remember seeing here talking about how anal was so difficult for her and she wouldn't do any other anal scene after the first with Tushy, and she has done at least three others since. And as you said if she doesn't, she doesn't, it's her choice after all.
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CherokeeFan Deactivated User
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Posted - Mar 19 2018 : 7:50PM
^^^Yeah she has always given snarky sarcastic responses whenever there are requests for her to work with a black guy performer. That's why I said initially that she has never given off the attitude that she wants to actually work with black guys. Out of all the guy performers I've seen her say that she wants to work with or work with again none of them have been black ever.
^^ Until some of her "IR scenes" are released, to be honest. If you're an IR fan you get used to girls you really dig dodging forever but I'd be pretty salty that the two really tall girls from 2016 (Elena and Blaire Ivory) don't do a single IR between them since they were my type.
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Posted - Mar 21 2018 : 8:39PM
Personally, I feel scenes with the Ricky Johnsons Tyler Knights and Isiah Maxwells are no different than scenes with the Manuel Ferraras Mick Blues and Alex Legends in that they are all just scenes with men. Of course each of the men I mentioned have their individual performing abilities. But girls are advised by agents directors etc. to hold off/wait or avoid doing scenes with the Ricky Johnsons Tyler Knights and Isiah Maxwells because the porn industry is hyper conscious of race and skin pigmentation, so here we are. Elena has no problem enjoying black men privately, but girls are advised to not work with certain people[read: Black men] for image reasons, just the way it is.
I don't really care when she chooses to do IR or anal... I just want to see her in a nice b/g scene wearing black leather thigh high boots, rarely do we have such a beautiful tall porn star
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Posted - Mar 22 2018 : 5:23PM
I think this thread should be changed to "Nothing but complaining and not moving on from Elena not doing IR when we want.". Y'all are ruining this topic of hers already.
^^ She's done anal already. Hell she's been doing anal for a while now. She's just one of those girls who sends mixed messages for no apparent reason. If she wants to do IR, just do the damn thing!
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Posted - Mar 22 2018 : 7:21PM
Yeah, she says that black men are all too much to take because their dicks are so big, but she continues to shoot scenes with men who are bigger than Nat Turnher, Tyler Knight, etc. In fact, Danny Ocean is actually quite a bit smaller than all of the guys she has worked with, but she still declined his offer: [Tweet is no longer available] She can say what she wants but from the looks of it, she just doesn't want to be seen having sex with black men. And of course those who aren't black, along with those who don't want her to work with black men anyway won't care and/or will be happy about this, and that's perfectly fine, but her "I will work with men of all races, except yours" isn't a selling point to a black male customer. It's her basically saying "your kind aren't welcome here". And she seems to be perfectly fine with it. Oh well.
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And I did see her post that society still sees sex with black men as taboo, in other words, a mark of disgrace, and that there was nothing she could do about it. She deleted the post quickly though.
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Posted - Mar 22 2018 : 10:14PM
So yeah, given that she continues to work with men are who are bigger than Nat Turnher, Tyler Knight, Danny Ocean, etc., it's obvious that her not wanting to work with black men is not about size, in and of itself. And given that she works with Asian men, Latino men, etc., it isn't about her not wanting to work with men outside of her race, either. There is stigma specifically attached to working with black men that makes it tricky, and it doesn't seem like she wants to deal with it. Fair enough.
^^&^^^Here are two rules you should always avoid breaking with your post but especially your first ones. 1-Accusing performers of being racist. Nothing good ever comes from doing other than you get deactivated and we don't have to read your skewed view of a performers personal choice. 2-Insulting performers or other posters. The first is in many ways similar to rule #1 but insulting posters tends to make whatever argument you have void because if you thought it was valid than it should stand on it's own and not require that you attack people with varying opinions. How about in the future you simply say that you hope that Elena chooses to work with African American performers.
It's her body, so it is only right that she decides who she has sex with for whatever reason. Remember August Ames? Leave the girl alone. Her body. Her rules.
I don't know how you expect people to react when she clearly said she has done IR but no pictures nor scenes have popped up about it. But of course since some of y'all are already content with what she's been doing, it doesn't really matter for you but you have to see it from her fans who want to see her take some black dick. There's really no reason to be rude and snide on either end of this. Until BLACKED tweets a picture of her getting fucked by Jason Luv pops up, this "discussion" won't be over.