as far as goth or punk girls go i would say i know of myself, Renee Pornero, and i think Victoria Sinista too.
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Posted - Mar 20 2004 : 5:07PM
i get inquiries about shooting raver, goth, punk girls quite frequently. I mean the real deal, putting a pink wig or some outfit on a girl in a studio doesn't make her a raver girl, finding a girl with jet black hair and a tattoo doesn't maker her a goth girl.
You have to have a video shooter and photographer who understands that scene to do anything good. That's why SuicideGirls is such a successful and famous website.
I to would love to see some adult films with girls who look like the models from SuicideGirls. If any films do exist with girls like this I would love to see them. There is nothing hotter then a girl with beautiful body mods and a strong personality.
jab
"What difference do you think you can make, one man in all this madness?" ~~~First Sgt. Edward Welsh (The Thin Red Line)~~~
so, then, the obvious question is: how do we get the suicide girls to do hardcore?
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Posted - Mar 20 2004 : 6:40PM
not sure, you'd have to have access to talk to them first, Northwest seems to have more of the SuicideGirl types than anywhere else - all you could do was offer them money, they are not the types who are going to be impressed by some porn scout telling them they can make big money and get on the cover of Barely Legal magazine.
L.A. porn biz will never be able to reach those girls nor handle them.
Best would be some guy who understands them and is one of them to shoot his own movies and find a distributor.
It's a small goldmine for somebody - there are plenty of guys out there that want these type of girls. Goth chicks rarely do hardcore for money either.
Hmm that's interesting, most of the chicks I know are either punk or wannabe punks. Nah, you don't see alot of them in porn. Everybody is different, but I doubt very few of real punk girls, or at least the one I know, my girlfriend included, would not even consider it.
I think you don't see a lot of them in porn because the general assumption is that people only want to see Jenna Jameson/Houston types doing porn, which obviously isn't true.
Look at the success of the Suicide Girls and other sites like it. Take a peek over to a.b.gothic and you'll often see goth/punk porn. The girls exist and the market is there, but no porn makers have really explored it.
in fact i have had directors specifically tell me on many occasions NOT to look goth and to look like a young girl or... wear more pink and blue, stuff like that. its not that the girls dont want to do it, its that those who do are not allowed to look it that often.
Really Keiko? Hmmmm I smell a way to get into the business, but which company will help me get this series off the ground, lol? Well maybe I'll think of something. Very interesting.
jab
"What difference do you think you can make, one man in all this madness?" ~~~First Sgt. Edward Welsh (The Thin Red Line)~~~
Ok,it's old school,and I know I mention her everytime,but someone post a damn pic of JUSTINE REAGE/CHANDRA VEGA!!!
I'm all for it.But can someone please explain what an "emo"girl is?I still don't understand what emo music is supposed to be,a bunch of punk rockers who whine about relationships?
'Emo" stands for Emotional. And your explanation is pretty much right, although emo is usually applied more to boys than girls - i.e. indie boy bands or singers who write songs about the pain of relationships without the bullshit male bravado. Bright Eyes would be an example. This thread is putting naughty ideas into my head...as I am somewhat of an emo/indie (though not goth) girl. Anyone wanna pay my air fare to LA?
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Posted - Mar 21 2004 : 2:06AM
majority of people who make porn, gonzo and feature, are pretty limited artistically and creatively. but some of the choices they make are economic, it's not that cheap to produce a DVD and it would be a risk to spend $30-50,000 on a DVD featuring goth or punk girls when you have no idea how it will go over with the distributors, retailers and the public.
porn is no different that mainstream entertainment, your biggest sellers are usually lowest common denominator type of things. The innovative and interesting stuff is always on the margins catering to a smaller audience.
i've never been inside SuicideGirls, i've looked at the free side a bunch of times. I don't think there is any hardcore inside. I don't think any of those girls would care to be in some gonzo studio movie sitting on a sofa in some Belaire rent a porno location between two middle aged dudes about to double anal her. Think she'd rather commit suicide than that. What might work with those girls is shooting them in their natural habitat with people they really do have sex with, boyfriends, girlfriends, fuck buddies.
Sometimes u do see these type of girls in Homegrown Video movies. I can think of one really sexy goth girl and her bf I saw a few months ago.
But, that doesn't mean that those girls don't exist. Shit, there are cheerleaders, teachers, housewives, you name it doing that kind of stuff, why would punk/goth girls be the exception? Keiko and Renee Pornero have expressed, in this forum, their desire to reflect more of their punk/goth interests in their movies and porn directors have basically restricted them to the teen/girl next door/doll look.
I just think that the porn makers simply don't understand the idea behind it. They're just gonna go with the shit that they know.
thanks for the comments... I really wish that style was represented better in todays adult films...
I personally know a few suicide girls and I so I know that thay will not do porn thay are amateur models..... but I think thay too would love to see some porn like that.
I just watched Full Anal Access vol. 2 and Renee Pornero looks rather goth in it. This was the first video I've seen with Renee in it and let me just say.
Renee you're HOT!!! And not just looks, good performance. I'll have to check out some of your other videos.
Side note: Everhard, can you keep it down(vocally) a little bro? Thanks.
thx, goofyfoot. I enjoyed 'full anal access vol.2' as well. I don't really consider myself to be that kind of goth/punk type of girl, but I am totally into those outfits. Actually my 'work' suitcase is just filled with red, black and white clothes, fishnets, leather, vinyl and all kind of accessoires. I love that dark, mysterious look. And I know that a lot more people out there would love to see more of that. Well, there are some directors who have the same taste when it comes to outfits like Pat Myne or Skeeter. And honestly, when I am able to wear the stuff I think I look sexy in, my performance is better as well, because I just feel more comfortable. I can be myself and don't play a role. But we are all actresses so we have to step in different characters sometimes. I am just sick of that typical pink fishnet top. Don't you agree? _______ yours Renee
Posted - Mar 20 2004 : 12:45PM