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horndogger
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Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 10:16PM
This butts for u volume 4 is comming soon as per the Jules Jordan site. Sounds like a great gonzo anal movie right ? Wrong, he has Rita Faltayano, Rebecca Linares, Maria Bellucci and Sandra Romain doing anal .... uhhh, these women have over 500 anal scenes between them but Alexis Texas, Rachel Roxxx and Rachel Star, three hot newbies are not doing anal in this movie. I tired of porn producers packaging movies with titles like this one, marketing them as gonzo, and then giving us recylced girls for the anals and straight vaginal for the newbies. You want a title like this one, crack open the wallet and bring us a first anal.
The Dog.
horndogger
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Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 10:22PM
Correction on above ... it's volume 3.
Beaumont Livingston
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Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 11:25PM
I disagree, let the newbies build up to anal so there is something different for each release.
conquistador
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Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 11:29PM
I agree with you about misleading titles. But instead of complaining I vote where it counts, with my wallet.
ma meeshka
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Posted - Sep 9 2007 : 11:51PM
if you haven't already, write a review.
 
Erik_Everhard
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 1:17AM
Where is the mis leading title? This butt's 4 U is about chicks with great round firm butt's, not anal, if you're looking for that try ANAL cavity search, that is all anal.
Erik Everhard
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 1:33AM
I don't think the title is misleading. However, I agree there isn't much reason to buy this one. Personally, the Rebecca Linares and Maria Belluci scenes are the only ones I'd be interested in, and I can't see paying the top dollar JJV premium for two scenes.
And while I don't think the title is misleading, per se, I agree with the general sentiment. It would have been nice to see a couple of anal newbies in the lineup.
ultimate_dap_fan
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 2:07AM
i thought rita faltoyano has retired . is this an old scene ?? or is she back ??? or is this her last scene ?? i hope erik gave her a dp . she didn't do any dps in 2007
horndogger
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 2:23AM
Sure Erik ... I checked out Anal Cavity Search. Recycled girls again who have done anal before. Dude, you have to start bringing us some first anals !! This latest movie once again gets its Gonzo tag from the anal with recylced girls. Vivid Video and Steve Hirsch are giving us more broken in asses than the gonzo producers. I liked your stuff in the past but this latest movie, anals from Rita F and Sandra Romain ? .. come on !!
jackthetreacleeater
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Shame on you!
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 5:31AM
I never tire of seeing Sandy Romain take cock in her ass. And if Rebeca is in it too, I'm sold.
Nothing says romance like anal sex.
Le Duc de Blangis
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Ecce Lex
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 6:47AM
butt = anal???
camaban
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 9:05AM
It's very difficult to find new girls in the US these days who do anal. Erik should go to Budapest or St. Petersburg to shoot titles like that. There are a lot of fresh new girls there who are willing to do anal.
In the US there are the same girls agaian and again who do it. And the cast, who do anal in This Butts 4 you 3 is very funny:
- Rita Faltoyana -> Hungary
- Rebecca Linares -> Spain
- Maria Bellucci -> Hungary
- Sandra Romain -> Romania
So not one single American girl is doing anal in this movie.
Endless Loop
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 12:22PM
Its one of those assumed learning curves, where the nawing lesson learned is having mistakingly "assumed" anything.
I can definitely identify with the frustration, as I too still get stung occasionally, but almost always because I got caught "assuming", instead of thoroughly inspecting the cover pics.
I've no idea the original poster's degree of savvy in discerning specific content relative to porn, but its been my experience that the basic rule of thumb suggests the word "ass", or "butt" in the title, does not an anal movie make, just as the word "Anal" in the title, does not "entirely" an anal movie make.
"Anal" only refers to somthing, having some form of relational contact, with somebody's asshole, sometime during the length of the movie.
It's the responsibility of the viewer, to have all those "somes' clearly summed up, prior to any sum ever wisely being rendered.
I see it as the responsibility of the studio, to have everything accurately depicted in the cover pics, and any whimsical text, whimsically accurate.
I've found problems usually occur within the reasonable understanding, that whimsical, or humorous cover designs, simply don't read like legal scripts or med prescriptions, and therefore can often create unintented interpretations, made by the variety of consumers in search of specific interests.
Given this, I've never known, or suspected any box cover of Erik's to have ever been designed with any emphasis toward deception. Infact I expect he, as other legitimate directors have to be extremely scrupulous in order to inject humor, or other creative description while considering the myriads of potential misinterpretations.

Edited by - Endless Loop on 9/10/2007 12:33:42 PM

astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 1:01PM
As long as there's plenty of ass worship in it, the title isn't misleading. There's a difference between an ass fetish and an anal sex fetish, and there's nothing about the title which would lead one to think it's about first anals either. Why would this not be considered gonzo? Every Everhard movie I can think of had the girls interacting with the camera, and I have no reason to think this one would be any different.
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Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 1:32PM
A lover of women and a fine speller, too!
We need more people like you posting on ADT.
 
leatherdick
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 3:07PM
I do tend to buy more Euro releases these days. Rocco is always out there bringing in new girls as seen in his recent Russian flurry and Woodman are bringing in new girls as well that go straight to anal.
Maria Belucci would be interesting but I can just go and pick one of her from my Private collection.
I think the issue is using the same girls and some studios pass a girl round amongst directors so they pop up on releases from the directors of that studio over a six month period.
I have a low boredom threshold and don't suffer from fanboyism, keep scouting and bringing new talent.
juha
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 6:03PM
Thanks, Bob.
I was thinking the same.
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Edited by - hardware on 9/11/2007 4:06:07 AM
ma meeshka
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 7:38PM
+1
horndogger
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 8:47PM
Wow .. you guys with your spell checker. You got me !! Wow.
Now on to the point at hand, I was in the adult video store the other day and the manager said that I have rented over 5000 titles so I know a little bit about the industry and the product out there as I'm sure a lot of you do. What picks me about this movie is not the misleading title but the fact that Erik Everhard has produced a gonzo movie right? He understands that the most talked about, celebrated, requested, important aspect of gonzo is anal. So what he does instead of paying the cash to get a new girl to take anal is he grabs some girls from the Europe who have done so much anal its becoming a health concern for them. Packages the movie and sells it to the market. That's my simple point. Erik Everhard is not the only producer who does this, most of them do. Is this site for consumers to speak their minds about the industry or to be nice to all the producers ? You guys are the ones buying this stuff, I find it hilarious that you would criticize me for a spelling typo instead of voice some constructive debate on this topic.
The Dog
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 10:26PM
Actually, I criticized you for being a misogynist dickhead.
Rosario Stone
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 11:34PM
The cast is the best Sandra Romain is my crush, my friend Rebeca is an angel,i worked with Rachel Starr, she is very pretty, hot, and nice(i love her skin color) Alexis is one of my favorite butts and is very hot too, the movie look nice :)
Besos...... Rosario Stone
ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 11:40PM
did he tell you that you need a new hobby, too?
JOOOOOOOOOKE
lots of my pals on here watch that much porn. i'm just joshin'.
ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Sep 10 2007 : 11:43PM
Rosario,
I want to check out some of your work. What would you recommend as some of your best work? Just curious. Thanks.
Rosario Stone
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 12:04AM
^I have tittles with evasive angels (4), vouyeur media, candy shop, WCP, Lethal Hardcore, pistol whip(website)Elegant Angel. Must of my scenes have not came out yet RLD, Justin Slayer, New Sentations, Smash and others, i have almost 30 scenes done
i am newbie yet :)
Besos...... Rosario Stone
Edited by - hardware on 9/11/2007 4:07:25 AM
ma meeshka
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 12:40AM
and you're talking about the health concerns of the porn girls?
are your 5000 titles the only contact you have with real women?
 
wolf69
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 12:47AM
No offense to ma meeshka (and granted, I am probably being a bit pedantic here), but in this case the word that is highlighted above is extraneous.
Porn Scout
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 1:14AM
horndogger
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 1:15AM
Still waiting for one of you guys to talk about my comments regarding the cheap way out of producing gonzo, then packaging it and selling it to guys like me so producers can drive a Mercedes Benz ... please will one of you validate my point here. I chose the recent Everhard movie as an example of paying $1200 a scene and getting Eastern European girls to do the anal. I'm simply requesting, for the love of god, for some of these guys to spend a couple of grand to have some of these new girls do the anal. It's unbelievable to me that you guys as consumers would shoot the messenger instead of discussing my points. Bob loved your in depth response. Your a true genius
The Dog
lindi
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 1:31AM
Dog, they just don't share your sentiment that Erik Everhard has any obligation to meet your needs.
ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 1:44AM
thanks for the response Rosario. I'll definitely check out some of your stuff. The RLD and other so-far unreleased scenes sound nice. Thanks.
Porn Scout
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 1:52AM
^ dude, what's up with the thread hijacking?
ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 2:07AM
eh, sorry. didn't really consider it hijacking but whatever. just a question amongst some arguing. lighten up bro.
Porn Scout
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 2:32AM
Believe it or not, I wasn't trying to be a dick. I just thought your exchange with Rosario was random and not relevant to a discussion that actually had some merit. Why not just start a new "Rosario Stone" thread instead?
Now I'm hijacking the thread. Awesome.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 2:41AM
Thanks, Dog.
To share the love, let me just say that your command of the language continues to astound.
ChodeMasterJ
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 2:47AM
PS: Point taken. :)
 
Porn Scout
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 2:51AM
And yes, I think there is some merit in this topic. While I don't think producers owe it to us to constantly pay huge sums of money for newbies to take cock up the ass, it's perfectly legitimate for porn fans to provide this type of feedback. I agree with horndogger that there really isn't anything special about this title. I'm sure it'll be pretty good in a general sense, but is it really worth the JJV premium? For some, yes. For me, no.
camaban
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 3:20AM
The big problem in the US porn industry is that it is very difficult to get a new girl into anal. I don't know why so many girls never try it and renounce the extra money. But I think they get paid much enough for vaginal only. So they do
a few more "normal" scenes per month and have the same money without doing anal.
In Europe most of the girls are doing porn because they really need the money. They don't know how long they will be in the industry and want to earn as much as possible. Therefore it's not very difficult to talk them into anal sex.
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Edited by - hardware on 9/11/2007 4:18:47 AM
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 4:21AM
Paying the Euro-gal's rate doesn't get her here to the US, or get Erik and camera over to Europe, so Erik can shoot her. Ergo, horndogger's assumption of what it would cost is simplistic.
However, horndogger, you can always offer to pay Erik the performer's fee and associated expenses if you feel that strongly about producing his movies for him.
Harri Patel
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 4:27AM
It would probably be cheaper to do that than to rent 5,000 movies that aren't what you want.
BSD
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 4:54AM
HORNDOGGER -
Well, I've been watching porn for a million years and as to the two points you seem hung up on, I don't share your view on one and I don't think the other is quite as simple and straightforward as you make it out to be.
First, given my experience and knowledge of gonzo porn, (and that's all I watch), I don't find the Everhard title "This Butt's For You" misleading. I don't think it implies or infers the GUARANTEED anal for every girl in the flick that you seem to think it does. I will agree that on occasion some titles, boxcovers, and scene descriptions DO do a semantic dance about what's contained within, but the savvy pornaholic, (I guess that means those with MORE than 5000 trips to the well. Smile.), have learned to decipher and see through that to determine what's real and what's not. A much bigger problem in porn labeling, is PICTURES of people or things on the boxcover, that are not contained on the DVD or tape. That is much more aggregious and frustrating than you reading something into a title that's not really there.
Second, I don't think it's quite as simple as producers opening the checkbook to get some girl to do anal on demand, as you seem to think it is. You ever think that maybe the girl just doesn't want to do it? At least not at this point? You don't think that porn producers wouldn't pay a premium for Alexis Texas' first anal, if that was all it took? As long as she and her management weren't being completely unreasonable? You don't think an outfit like Evil Angel couldn't or wouldn't meet that expense? These companies HAVE the money, so the reason must lie elsewhere.
Maybe the girls just don't want to do it. Yet. If ever.
BSD
juha
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 6:01AM
+1
007
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 7:47AM
The title isn't misleading.
Good job on the casting Erik.
Rachel Starr looks amazing on the cover. Rachel Roxx too.
The Sentinel
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 1:04PM
woaw....
I think we shouldn't care so much about the genre properly, or scene details.... as long as the Casts and the Movies are great.
But on the "Recycling" part of it, I kinda agree - of course, so many people to cast and always the same names in JJV&Co prods, it sounds like a real "Club" to me.
Why don't you go a bit further in your castings ? why Euroglam Fames like Sabrina Rose, Simone Style, or even a Sarah James cannot be included in such releases ?? you took Sandra Parker - who's fantastic to me - in a previous volume, why don't you keep going on ??
I'm only a fan (an thus a wallet-voter), so I am totally misunderstanding those business principles....
If anyone has some explanations about this......
astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 1:54PM
No, because I don't think you have a valid point. I talked about your comments on the title in my last post, and I think the comments about Erik not shelling out enough and doing cheap releases is beyond laughable. He barely ever releases a single DVD release (working on memory here so I might be wrong here) and the LARGE majority of them seem to run well over four hours with some going over five rather than holding to the 2 hours 20 minutes or 3 hours that so much of gonzo adheres to. He also cares enough to mix up the talent with some fresh girls and some old girls so that most everybody should be able to find a style of girl they like.
"I do not as a rule seek advice about food from thin people..." - Jeffrey Steingarten
tmd5
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 7:52PM
More like we need less people like YOU trying to correct someoneone's spelling when it was obviously just a typo.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 8:14PM
tmd,
Apparently, your problem is reading comprehension rather than spelling.
juha
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Posted - Sep 11 2007 : 10:13PM
+1
and +10 for this thread.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Sep 12 2007 : 1:20AM
Since this thing doesn't go to eleven, I guess a plus ten is a good indication that it's "done, fini, it is no more."



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