VernonRobers writes....And why SHOULDN'T they think this, if this very same criteria affords any man of ANOTHER RACE his foot in the door? There is no reason we should be content in settling for less. ...And the term "uppity negroes"? From YOU?
Edited by - tritone on 8/1/2009 7:31:02 PM
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And I can back him up on that. It's a frequent topic of discussion on the escort boards. The girls who say they won't see black men all have a bad experience or three that put a fear into them. They've had to deal with guys who walk in the door and immediately demand to be their pimp then won't leave, try to force bareback, etc. Lurk on The Erotic Review boards for a while, or ask for experiences. You'll see. It is a shame all black men have to suffer for this stupidity, I agree, but what are you doing to do, file a civil rights lawsuit against an escort?
It's funny, I've seen a very similar thread recently on a British escort forum, but discussing escorts who will not take Asian clients. From what I can gather, that stems from a few instances of Pakistani men assaulting and robbing escorts. All Asian men end up seen as a risk because of the actions of a few. You get British escorts refusing younger clients too, but I don't think I've seen any that refuse black clients. It's clearly often a matter of racial profiling rather than straightforward racism.
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Posted - Aug 1 2009 : 10:15PM
Kimi need not explain anything as I think she was quite clear. She spoke about what many girls are advised to do. Stop being a troll.
Even though I know some escorts have real concern about black men, given their history of prejudice in the porn industry, I think those 3 girls just think they are above black men. They think they are too good for brothas, even though they don't mind old fat non -black men. By old, I mean VERY old grandpas
I remember seeing a scene with Carmilla Bing and Eva Angeline. During the scene the Director asks Bing if she does black guys she responds "Fuck No" proud as can be. I was shocked and so was Eva from look on her face. If we found out that Julia Roberts refused to make a movie because it had a scene that involved sex with a black man, would we call her racist? Yes we would. She does not have to date black men she does have to be attracted to black men but as a paid performer she must see a difference between work sex and recreational sex.
That(South and West Asian ethnicity) is not the kind of "Asians" we are talking about in the US. By the way, are Arabs also considered "Asians" in the UK? How about Iranians? Iranians and Indians(especially northwest Indians and Pakistani) are ethnically and liguistically close so if they are not considered "Asians" that will be really funny. Edited by - wargamer on 8/2/2009 12:52:43 AM
If a porn star or an escort doesn't want to deal with black men, then that's their prerogative. All a black man can and should do is boycott those who offend him.
"That is not to say that no white men have been violent or stolen, simply that the proportion of safe white clients compared to safe black clients makes it worthwhile to dump one and focus on the other." I can definitely understand that as a possible line of thinking among some starlets, although if it's presented as a statement of fact(assuming the 'worthwhile' is based on greater vs. lesser incidence of non-desirable acts) I'd wonder about the sufficient conditions & indicative evidence for it. Edited by - 4theheart on 8/2/2009 6:03:33 AM
lmao!! Wow. No one is going to change anyones mind because all of your minds are made up. stop feeding the ignorance and let it go. He wants to actually complain that if he had money the listed females wouldnt fuck him!!! lmao! SO instead of saying fuck it, he post and whines about it online. lmao!!!! what a fuckin' joke!
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This arguement is so dumb, Im tired of these girls, these porn agencies, porn companies, ect. thinking that these pornstars are too good for black guys, But more so Im tired about people caring about it.... Caring about it is them saying themselves that they are too good for black men. Who the fuck are they really, anybody that believes they are too good for an entire race is putting themselves way up to high that they fell and went so low. People below me can't get to me, so I don't give a fuck about any of them hatin' on blacks. If you ask me they are all racist from top to bottom... Porn Producers and agencies are racist because if you look around it is CLEARLY OBVIOUS! that it is okay to say no to fucking black guys but not okay to say to fucking white men, thats why with the exception of very little black women There are NO pornstar in the business, especially white pornstar that has never done a white guy.... And I know they come here on these forums and challenge anyone of them to go out and get a non black hot female to do nothing but black guys and make them a star, I gaurantee half of them won't even answer this, because they know they will never do something like that in a million years. But you know what thats alright because they never ever got a chance to Fuck Flame, Darlene, Luana and Cali Davenport Female pornstars I say about 85% percent of them black, white, latin, asian, ect. are racist because 1) the ones who don't do interracial at all because of their preference... If angelina jolie or charlize theron or one of them say that, they will be called racist, so why aren't they? 2) Even alot of the girls that do Interracial are a bit racist as well, because we and black male pornstars know that they put limits on what they will do with black guys, like how some will only do anal with white guys and not black guys like Sara Jay, Tori Black, Kirra Lynne... and don't even try to give me black guys are to huge excuse because they are all not hung. Katja Kassin has only done rimming with white guys, but never with black guys. And alot of black female pornstars like Jazmine Cashmere, Beauty Dior, Jada Fire, ect. has also done rimming with white guys and not black guys in fact jada fire has done alot of stuff with only white guys. Alot of the black females in porn are self racist. SO even the ones that do do black guys are racist, because it is a matter in how far they will go. So a bunch of people in porn is racist, but the point is as a person watching it you shouldn't let it affect you, because they are the ones pushing themselves beneath you by being one of the most dispicable things you can be, a racist. Thats why I watch alot of blackice, evasiveangles, and blackmarket porn vids...
I think it's a bit naive to assume that skin color has no relevance in sexual attraction and that anyone who makes a distinction based on skin color or race is a racist. When you consider that the visual impression of a physical object is basically color + shape. On top of that, different genetic heritage obviously leads to different physical traits. Depending on preference these physical traits might be considered less attractive, or more. That's not racist, that's just the state of things. Edited by - unkwnusr2 on 8/2/2009 6:03:21 AM
Do you think porn girls and escorts care that much about attraction? Why do you think Ron Jeremy gets everybody and guys like Ray Victory and Mr Marcus aren't wanted ? Is it because they find Ron so sexy? Escorts sleep with fat, very old and ugly men, as long as it's not black. Do you think they are attracted to them?
No, it's because they pay better, tip hugely, bring gifts, return as regulars, don't act like they're god's gift to women, wash thoroughly, and obey the rules.
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Posted - Aug 2 2009 : 11:16AM
^Somethings are so obvious that they disappear from sight or are never heard. It is clear that the thread is about a couple of pornstars who may or may not have certain predilections regarding clients or johns. However, this thread seems to be devolving, into the same old self righteous chest thumping, that has been hashed out in 100's if not 1,000's of threads, spanning nearly a decade, about which female performers are or are not racist, when performing in a porn scene. A news flash, such things are off topic. Thread is about escorts. Please get over yourselves. Edited by - Clam Digger on 8/2/2009 11:22:39 AM
they are not prominent but there sure are Asian men in US porn. there are even websites and DVD series devoted to Asian men on white pornstars. She Loves Asian Cock, Phuck Fu Masters. for example the guy behind the websites Next Door Amateur and West Coast Gangbangs, Rick Lee, is Chinese. he has worked with a long list of pornstars including "no interracial" chicks like Taylor Rain, Mindy Main, Kelsey Michaels, Alektra Blue, the list goes on so for them Chinese guys are okay, but black guys are not okay. why?again, not prominent but they sure are there. for example Juan Cuba. he has also worked with girls who won't work with black guys.
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Posted - Aug 2 2009 : 11:55AM
^Hey, and let's not forget Chico Wang.
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Posted - Aug 2 2009 : 12:09PM
Just another reason to not care abou the racism in porn, This is one of the reasons why outside of porn it is ridiculed and demeaned, because they all sell out and do ANYTHING FOR THE MONEY. Just Look at Flower Tucci, She drunk piss for money, all through her career has never made a piss movie and then out of nowhere she is gulping it down.
yeah it might be off topic. personally it is not a big deal to me if some pornstar escorts refuse black clients. it is par-for-the-course but let's be real, the US porn world is definitely fucked up when it comes to black males. let's not minimize it. there is straight up racism in US porn ...these "no IR" rules which really mean "no black males" ...the constant portrayal of black males as ghetto thugs or subhuman animals ..persistent racist myths like the idea working with black males hurts a white performer's career you know how Japanese porn has those themes of rape and tentacles and other WTF shit? well racist themes are US porn's WTF shit. it is interesting how "IR" is no big deal to most Euro performers. i remember an interview with Monica Sweetheart where she could not understand why US porn is so weird about black dicks. it was silly to her, she did not care about skin color, it was just sex
Okay, let's focus on "escorts", and please...let's not be naive about this, escort is a fancy word for prostitute. Seriously, where have things gone wrong that we're now worried about the racist ways of a couple of prostitutes? Remember this is not a Fortune 500 company refusing to hire blacks or the NFL's Rooney Rule. There is no lawyer to come along and make the "escorts" fill out a black man quota per year. Just use that negative energy to focus on the people who aren't racist instead of the ones who obviously are.
except black males. that is my point. i am sure someone has offered Alektra Blue good money to do a scene with a black man. but she will not. Chinese man, however, step right up. ask yourself why US porn world is obviously fucked up about black males. that is all i am saying
Well ya I probably lack the understanding of an escort's work ethics or whatever. My preference is much more with Eurasian women but I'd nail 100 average black chicks before some white/Asian girl with weight or hygiene issues (or someone's grandma). Edited by - unkwnusr2 on 8/2/2009 1:41:28 PM
Taylor Rain fucked multimillionaire rapper Lloyd Banks behind the scenes of Groupie Love back when G-Unit ruled the charts. Alektra Blue did a blowbang early in her career in Baker's Dozen #5 and there were about two or three Black Guys in the scene with her and she didn't hesitate to suck their dicks and have them paint her face, she treated them just like she treated all the other the guys. Kelsey Michaels fucked Ramon from bangbros but she said she checked to make sure he was Latin first LOL. She even had the nerve to come on here and post "My decision on IT is the fact of I was raised that way and I have in some stayed with my roots". IMO I think porn attracts a certain type of female who can easily be lead in a number of different directions its just all a matter of who gets inside their heads first.
I didn't mean to offend you, its just a term I use for Black people who have made it to the top and now think their status supersedes their race. Ex. A couple years ago Oprah was in Paris shopping and she tried to get into this high end clothing store and apparently she was dressed down in regular clothes with no hair or makeup and the people in the store didn't recognize her, they just thought she was some regular old Black woman so they ignored her and pretended they didn't see/hear her knocking on the door. Later she did a show about it and said she would never wear/buy anything from that store again and blah blah blah. And I just remember laughing my ass off at the time not because I think what these people did to her was right but because they knocked her down a peg and reminded her even with all her fame she's still Black first. I'm sure all that time Oprah spent wearing their clothes they were treating regular Black customers like shit (not buzzing them into the store, following the ones they let in around the store), but when they treated an uppity Negro like Oprah that way people were shocked.
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Posted - Aug 2 2009 : 3:51PM
Yeah well I didn't mention that it is except for black males because I don't care, I value my race way more than that to be upset that a pornstar or ESCORT doesn't want my race, Not only are they racist, they are hos, so a racist ho shouldn't bother anybody when they speak against us, IT IS NOT SAYING MUCH, because racism should always be beneath us, since when do the lowly people affect us, thats why i said the entire arguement is so dumb. A racist is not going to get to me, let alone a racist ho. A racist Ho saying she wont do black guys should not be taken seriously, its like when a pornstar try to run for office, aint nobody but perverted fools are taking them seriously. But overall like I said, They are all racist (damn near all at least.) Even the ones that do IR, like Tori Black for instince, this bitch is on youtube saying she prefers black men and her first anal scene is white which is nothin wrong with that but it is with a few white guys in one movie, meaning it was a cast of guys starring in her first anal movie and she didn't want or suggested that not one of them be black, for someone who so-called prefers black guys. They are all racist, IR amateur porn is the only place where racism doesn't exist, I suggest people get up on some raven black, jennifer ashton, candy monroe, ect. And stop tiring yourselves out over racist. Edited by - THEREAL on 8/2/2009 4:06:49 PM
seriously nimrod get some pride. if a woman chooses -NOTICE THE WORD chooses- not to have sex wth black men (aka you) then get over it. If woman doesnt want to have sex with me I take it LIKE A MAN a say oh well or screw her. stop crying already. act like you got pair. HINT- THE WORLD IS NOT OUT TO GET YOU. Edited by - nerdgod on 8/2/2009 4:04:42 PM
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Posted - Aug 2 2009 : 9:42PM
It certainly is, as IR porn is racist to its core. If you think that black guys have some special juju, that other males do not, that causes blonds to quake in controlled orgasmic seizures, you are a racist. Edited by - Clam Digger on 8/2/2009 10:02:54 PM
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VernonRoberts writes ...OK. I get you now. :) Hehehehe. Comedian Paul Mooney used to joke about situations like this, calling it the "n***er wake up call"! Edited by - tritone on 8/2/2009 9:59:04 PM
Did Alektra Blue suck a black cock? I doubt it. She said before she will never do IR because she isn't attracted to black men. As for Kelsey Michaels, that excuse she gave pretty much says she is racist.
How do you explain that a girl don't mind doing scenes with Ron Jeremy but has a problem with Ray Victory or Mr Marcus, even Jake Steed ? How do you explain that an escort don't mind seeing an ugly fat, old ,rude non-black man but won't see a young, clean, polite black man? How else do you explain this besides racism? I will like to hear your argument.
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Exactly thats what I do, I just don't buy it, they lose a customer and in this recession and with piracy taking over the porn world, they need more fans. But what makes a pornstar racist is actually not really them not doing black guys because there are some black pornstars out there that doesn't do white guys like that hot young new cummer who retired after only a few films Cali Davenport she has no films with white guys, neither did that big booty lightskinned pornstar FLAME... are they racist too since they didn't do white guys, No! What makes a pornstar racist is that they are being called racist across the porn world like Alexis Texas for example she is probably known as the biggest racist right now, every where you go someone is calling her a racist and she and none of the others are defending themselves being called racist... You are being called one of the most evil things in the world and you dont want to do nothing to defend yourself. A nonslut doesnt want to be called a slut, an nonracist doesnt want to be called a racist simple as that. And that is the main reason why they are reason where everything else fall into play. I don't care if they are pornstars, escorts, regular stars, whatever no NONRACIST wants to be called a RACIST, and alot of them apparently do so therefore they are racist. But just like other racist we have to stop paying attention to them, you wouldn't give the KKK attention so why do folks give it to a pornstars Im starting to see some people are suckers for sexy women, I dont how sexy they look, a racist will forever be a ugly ass muthafucker.
Any valid point that you may have had before was shot down by this weak weak post. It's sad that in 2009 people still think like this. Hygiene, manners, or lack thereof aren't exclusive to any one race. Just watch the news and you'll see that lowlifes come in all colors...even white lol.
I never said anything about those qualities being exclusive to any single group of people. I only responded to why I believe escorts 'sleep' with fat, very old and ugly men - and it's not because they are attracted to them. And don't try to push a racial agenda on me. In porn I did scenes with black men when I was cast for them. As an escort my door was open to any adult who played by the rules and had the money. Male or female (or any combination thereof), any color of the rainbow, 18 to 80, blind, crippled or crazy.
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