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| horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04 |  Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 10:24PMIn a thread over in the star crossed forum there is a discussion of drug use in porn. While it's unfortunate that there seems to be a ficious cycle of drug usage by performers, there really is nothing that can be done about this. Every time there is a discussion about something that is happening in porn that is wrong, the basis for change is that it is unethical (whatever is happening). Squirtfan brings up an excellent point that really hits home for me.....ethics and porn are two words that can't be used in the same sentence. Change in porn for the right or ethical reason is simply not something that happens....change for the almighty dollar is. Belladonna summed things up on her interview with 20/20...she said that the industry is basically older men (who supply the working capital) and male performers, sometimes twice the age of the young porn girls, basically coming together to make these girls do wild sex acts that are simply not common in society. Anal, DP's are sex acts that are becoming more common but Cum farts, Anal Cream pies, ASS to Mouth, drinking an anal cream pie....etc . Squirtfan is right - Ethics ? Please. The Dog [Link] |
| squirtfan1 Member Flower 435 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 10:32PM [Link] |
| MLyons Senior Member 1617 Posts 8/02 | Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 10:34PM What goes on behind the camera is not always the same as what goes on in front of it. This one, simple premise is something that porn fans as a whole seem reluctant to accept. Maybe y'all define ethics differently than I do. ::shrug:: Man... reading some of the threads around here these days, it's a wonder the world isn't coming to an end. Edited by - MLyons on 1/24/2005 10:39:34 PM [Link] |
Hardware  All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jan 24 2005 : 10:54PM If you feel bad about the porn you are watching then you are free to stop, or you can support those people in the business who you believe are ethical and not support those who you believe aren't. You can also raise questions in forums like these, and if enough people agree with you then being ethical will become advantageous to doing business and more owners will start acting in accordance with the concensus. Or, you can choose to ignore those situations you feel are unethical and continue to support those involved, in which case you have no cause for complaint. [Link] |
| BrandonCruz Member Sitting in God's right hand... 62 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 12:05AM [Link] |
| Michael Saint Photographer Alexis Texas is always lovely 1062 Posts 2/01 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 2:19AM To say there are no ethics in porn is not correct either. horndogger - Answer me this. I want to make a movie about say "drinking anal cream pie's" since you brought it up and I think that is pretty disgusting. I am the producer/director. I personally talk to each cast member in person before their scene to make sure they FULLY understand what they are getting into (particularly the females). I also try my best to ensure they are not drunk (no alcohol on set) or high as best I can. I personally verify every performers test results and I stop the scene if I get the feeling the woman is in over her head but in the end my movie gets made. Did I just do something unethical? [Link] |
| horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 2:45AM You make good points Lee....as per any profession it depends on the individual person and their conduct. I think the point I'm trying to make is that when Porn stars are interviewed later on in their careers or when they have retired, they almost all say they had a bad experience in Porn. I have spoken to everyone from Shyla Foxxx to Stryc-9 and the answers are all the same....they feel that the treatment they received was poor and that they were taken advantage of. I can thing of only one girl that I have talked vie email (out of 13) who had good experiences in adult and she worked for Jill Kelly Productions. To answer your question about the anal creampie swallow scene scenario....if the producer/director took all the precautions you've indicated then yes, that's as ethical as one can get in porn - however the fact still remains that this is most likely a down on her luck, impressionable young girl who doesn't know any better and is being taken advantage of by the producer. Yes she may be a consenting adult but we all know that what she is doing is demoralizing and condensending. I accept my measure of responsibility as a consumer of this product and try to avoid titles that are demoralizing to women. I think the average porn fan is considerate towards the talent - an example was the backlash that Vince Voyeur took for xxx road trip vol 4 when he told the girl to go work at Mcdonalds. In summation.....it's not all those in porn who are unethical but I dare say it's the bulk of the producers - again I arrive at this answer from the interviews that former adult stars give later in life. The Dog [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 2:53AM Edited by - hardware on 1/25/2005 3:36:51 PM [Link] |
| horndogger Deactivated User 229 Posts 8/04 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 3:02AM The Dog [Link] |
| Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 5:33AM
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| Mienhagen aka Shameless deactivated again Europe 696 Posts 6/04 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 10:47AM [Link] |
| dragonsbum Dong Xiaoping 86 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 5:39PM ethics in life - please ! [Link] |
| Europornfan Member EU 21 Posts 1/05 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 5:39PM Well, and the people involved in the porn production probably have a hell of a lot more sex than me. Now, that's unethical. [Link] |
| bennyprofane1973 Pirate Booty 55 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 5:56PM The viewing public's taste in content dictates the ethical environment in which these films are produced. [Link] |
| Hardware All-Star Member Your other left 14594 Posts 3/02 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 6:26PM [Link] |
| boss_hog Member maryland 266 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 11:33PM So what's the point of feeling sorry for men, or women who choose to do dangerous/nasty shit. They can always say "Nah I'll pass on eating that anal cream pie!, You can keep your $1000!", but they don't wanna, because ...I've worked in warehouses and fast food joints. That shit aint fun. [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 11:48PM [Link] |
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