Plenty of new models, but even agencies that earlier had photo galleries available for free and and granted anybody free access nowadays only show teasing material on their frontpages !!!
But even that pixels are in some way nasty stuff ?!?! Like that cherry!
I do wonder why some girls make it over her and some are not allowed. In the BTS of HardBall#23. Jessica Fiorentino mentions Visa problems but says they'll be sorted soon (that was a while ago (?)). Also im not too bothered if American producers don't go to Eastern Europe anymore when the likes of Rocco and Christoph Clark are based there and know the business better.
Suffice to say that creative means are necessary. Like anything else in the world, if it was easy, then you would see more girls in USA. Sandra Romain is one of the best, and she was very close to Prague and Budapest and connected with one of the best directors/producers in the biz in Steve Holmes. Yet it was still worth a significant investment of time and emotion (and MY money!!) to help her come to LA. And it was worth it for her financially.
Enough said. The process of bringing an attractive, young, unattached woman from Eastern Europe to USA is nearly impossible. It has nothing to do with common sense (which most posters to these threads try to employ... reasonably). It has everything to do with connections, creativity, motivation, frustration, patience and fizzy lifting drinks. :)
NO ONE knows this more than me.
lANCE cUMMING
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Posted - Jan 20 2005 : 11:37PM
But what are the rules if some girl wants to come to the US to shoot porn? Is there a particular classification that they fall under? I would think they would be classified the same as other entertainers, i.e., fashion models, musicians, dancers, actresses, etc. Or is there a special category for the adult industry?
Undesirable, I'm afraid. They could come in a tourists. If you come to the USA to work then you have to have a green card. I admit I don't know the details but I expect that means someone has to say they have a job waiting for you, a job which they have been unable to fill using domestic labor.
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Posted - Jan 21 2005 : 5:10AM
Thank you so much for your insider view, Erik! You point in a direction I guessed a bit, too. I just wonder, are there already reliable agencies active? Are business insiders from Prague and Budapest investing in those countries? Trying to set up agencies? Is there a porn biz infrastructure beeing built up?
Or are you as a director just left alone with what you believe are new hunting grounds?
Its seems to be alot easier for girls from EU countries to come to America so i'd have thought that the Hungary and Czech Republic situation should be changing for the better now. Is this not the case?
A green card is a dream for everybody, not only for "Euro" porngirls. And, since there's really a lack of new talent, who do you want to fly to the US? The invisible new girls?
Stem, there's plenty of new Czech models, some of them are gorgeous, none of them will ever do hard core. Drop Perfectbodies an e-mail, they'll send you a pw (it's the same pw for everybody).
you still need visa to go to USA rom Czech. Thats the main problem, another problem mentioned Lance above - leaving everything in Czech and go somewhere to USA - not many girls will do it in the first lane. As I can see, the visa problem wont solve quickly, more to say its harder and harder to get one, also because of american mood after 11th september. I have a cousine in the USA and I can see it myself.
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Posted - Jan 21 2005 : 8:27PM
There has to be somebody here that knows what the rules are!! Some girls do get through, that's a fact. We know they do. How come they can do it and others can't?
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Posted - Jan 21 2005 : 8:33PM
money, bribed consular clerk in homecounty, very good connections, US-husband
...but certainly not a fair procedure allowing mass Euro porn girl tourism.
I like your dream, pornopunk, but it's not gonna work that way.
ok, my knowledge is 3-4 years old and the rules may have changed but i spent a few summers at probably the biggest immigration law firm(which isn't that big) on the east coast.
you've basically gotta file two forms way in advance, the I-129 and one i forget for a few hundred dollars. the temporary work visas are basically h-1b which means you've got specialized knowledge in a lacking field, an l-1a which is corporate transfers, j-1 which is for generally elite students and a bunch of other ones for refugees, athletes and recognizable celebs, religious workers and there's an easement of regulations for nafta-people. it's basically a case of letting useful, rich or important people in. for h-1b and the L's you're talking about finance and tech executives with some management consultants in the mix--i'd put the average salary i saw get approved at around 250k.
the ins is slow and it's a bitch to deal with, to get a real permit to enter and work and come back within 3 years requires advance planning of at least a month and without a lawyer you're probably paying close to a grand in fees. no way the majority of girls are doing that, but realistically there's very little chance of getting caught like ashley long. porn is about as perfect for working illegally as the food-services industry in terms of simply being hard to monitor thanks to a essentially itinerant workforce and cash and personal check payments.
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Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 3:07AM
The probelm is that Eastern European citizens dont even get a tourist visa often. Thus they dont even get the chance to work illegally in the USA. EU-membership did not change anything in this field, because the US work on an individual county to county basis.
We'd better look for Euro agencies getting their girls from further east in Europe, than dream immigration phantasies.
It would appear, from the view here out west, that basic sense of letting useful, rich, or important people in, is not necessarily to curb, the lower wage, or lesser skilled immigrants from finding work here, but simply the type of workers, they have more interest in monitoring.
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Posted - Jan 25 2005 : 3:21PM
Dont believe all this horror stories, please. And of course like everywhere, there you need to test porn actors before as well. Test are availble there, too.
That none of them will ever do hardcore is always about the money and if they don't get enough soft work ,they will do hardcore and the Budapest, Prague girls became a lot competitors from Russia and Ukraine.
homeslice, do me a favor and google russia, the ukraine, and a few others with the word "hiv" and question me on having factual evidence. that part of the world is an aids bonanza right now with the explosion in post-communist IV drug use mixed with a low use of condoms. they're not as bad as swaziland and a few other african countries overall, but they're the fastest-growing places in the world right now in terms of new infections. the total number of infections is growing on a ridiculously steep curve to the point of doubling every few months and the reported cases is already a few million and that's considered wildly conservative given infrequent testing hiding a huge number of positives who'll notice they're dying in a few years. it's not a good place to use your penis with any frequency, period. check your facts honey.
endless-not true, the rich and research elite get in almost automatically, but most of the h-1/l-1's are being paid less than the american exec. for the same job. you hire lawyers to be creative in getting the job description within a certain percentage of what's defined as "the prevailing wage" for an occupation. it's often 2k in legal fees to save 100k+ over a 3-6 year period in salary. janitors are going to have a bitch of a time getting a visa to work here.
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Posted - Jan 26 2005 : 5:06AM
Wasnt the problem exactly those high prices, Gapelover? Maybe they will do it proposed really enough greens, but their fare will prevent US-directors to shoot in Prague and Budapest. Because it just doesnt pay anymore. And that's certainly no good starting point for competition against Russian and Ukrainian girls, is it?
No, it's NOT always about the money! Isn't this the topic of this thread? The girls don't want to, period. They did it in the past: they swear it's not them (most of them). They did it once or twice with their boyfriend, but now it's over (Sharon M). I offered good money for a SOFT lez between Peach and Silvie Thomas and the answer was NO WAY! If it was only about the money, DDF's pages would be filled with the prettiest babes, while 80% of the "Calendar" girls are now pro porngirls, Russians and the same old faces.
I see a hiv infections in the east side of Europe a big problem too. Especially Ukraine and Russia. But this is probably for a different topic.
During some monts ago, I also can say I noticed the trend of girls to not doing everything for the money. I mean "Ill do it of course, just pay me more!" basis. I even heard them saying about not doing some things they even like only for money. Damn, the world is some kind of changing.
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Posted - Jan 28 2005 : 6:40PM
Do you know where DDF does get those Russian girls from, Sbando? Do they shoot them there or do the girls work in Budapest/Prague?
Citizen from Eastern Europe even if EU members have limited access to the older countries because of a tragic economic situation not solved. So the western european countries want to rebuilt their economy before allowing unlimited access that's to avoid an invasion of millions of people without any chance to find a job. And what's more lot of girls won't go outside their countries or are not allowed to go for many reason one of them is money they must be paid a lot more in another country then in their one so most part of producers prefere to shoot in location instead of shooting in their country. Another problem is the Vatican Rocco may have many problems in shooting in Italy because the Pope doesn't like this kind of work of course.
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 12:07PM
IMO the problem is two-fold: On one hand Czech and Hungarian girls got other career choices than doing hardcore porn - and be it softcore or just fashion modelling - on the other hand those Czech and Hungarian girls actually still doing hardcore charge too high prices to make it still profitable for US directors to shoot them in Prague and Budapest.
Third: They also dont do it anymore because of cabel channels and porn more widely available in their home countries so that it is more difficult to hide the job from relatives and boyfriends. This may be also coupled with a more conservative shift in some of these countries.
Forth: Forget about US-immigration and easy tourist visas to US. After Sept 11th all looks even worse.
All this together looks really bad for Czech and Hungarian porn girl future!
I don't know. The sets star Hungarian guys but I don't know if Tanya and Anna are now in Budapest or still in St. Petersburg.
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Posted - Jan 30 2005 : 4:34PM
The studs are Hungarian + this strange Shameless guy claims to have "exported" Tanya to Budapest on your site = is there maybe still a grain of truth in this alleged Russian porn girl agency?
You can see Pamela aka Vika on the sample page and i know it ,because i have joined the site. Every girl takes a big dildo in the ass and gets an anal inspection by speculum and flashlight ! You can download the trailer.
I wonder why always talking about European porn(the right is EASTERN European porn).Where is the American porn?No beautiful girls,no new talents,nothing in the last 2 years. But the last 2 years from Europe,we have hundreds BEAUTIFUL new stars:Claudia Rossi,Ellen Saint,Sandra Mark,Angelina Crow,Lilliane Tiger,Sarah Blue,Angel Dark,Julie Silver,Jennifer Dark,Cindy Lords,Nikki Sun,Claudia Ferrari,Niki Belucci e.t.c Which is the problem?
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Posted - Feb 6 2005 : 11:35PM
chris: "Which is the problem?"
The problem is that 2004 these Euro cuties suddenly stopped pouring in!
I observed ()this thread for some time now... I tried to hold back but since it's one of my key interests I can't resist to make a comment:Sbando is absolutely right. Money plays a major role but my impression is that it's far more complex: it has to do with traditions that were built up, the appearance of certain new media in Hungary, the resulting image of the industry and so on (but I don't want to present vague theories - I needed far more empirical evidence for good results). BUT I also point towards the fact that casting a girl is not a one sided but a two sided affair.
Furthermore, I closely watch the girls making the crossover to escorting business and I have the feeling that the perfomance of many of them has improved because of this "other job". So there's a positive side to it, too.
HARDWARE ... "I admit I don't know the details but I expect that means someone has to say they have a job waiting for you, a job which they have been unable to fill using domestic labor."
That argument can surely be made. Some over paid fat arsed american chick (as many of them are) can fulfill same fantasy expectations of some hot blooded eastern european porn vixen ..."
Anyway, so if its so difficult how does Monica Sweetheart find it so easy to go to USA and film?
She is in the bonus scene of "Big Natural Tits #12" .It looks like more Russian babes travel to Budapest. I think you can find her in some Sineplex titles also .
10 days over: 4 long ago passed girls added (active 1994 etc), 3 new girls doing lez and solo only. Only Honey Winter actually had dick in one of her orifices on film.
Drought over? Bullshit!, But a bad weather forcast indeed!
Shayhiri, just recently saw a documentation about Bulgaria on French-German Arte-TV. Even a University professor earns only 200€ a month. So, money-wise that would be a new job market ! But are you sure that a lot of Bulgarian girls are ready to join the Porn parade? I don´t think so! Their common attitude (Pride & Prude !) with sex is simply very different compared to Czech girls.
I have visit Bulgaria many times(Sofia,Haskovo).The hookers are very cheap,only 30 or 40 euro for 1 hour!And the girls are very hot(not prude,not shy).For my option simply need good agency!
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