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GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 4 2010 : 11:08PM
The following statement is not speculative at all but was in fact a real press release from a law agency in New York called the Law Office of John K. Akpalu & Associates, P.C.
Of late there has been a video circulating showing “Ivy” a Ghanaian girl in a brutal “porn” movie. Having recently been retained, together with the Law Firm of Davidson & Cohen, NY to represent Ivy, we would like, with her permission, to caution other Ghanaian girls in the United States who may be approached on the train, in the bus or at school by a stranger with the promise of a modeling career.
There are scouts out there looking for young girls to deliver to the extreme pornography industry where these girls are drugged, gang-raped and videotaped for sale on the internet. These scouts pass around business cards with seemingly legitimate business names.
Nothing on the business card or in their appearance will tell you what they do until they whisk you away and the doors close behind you. Many a girl who have gone for photo shoots for a modeling portofolio have been raped.
The only mistake Ivy made that fateful day was entering the car of a white man she had met earlier in the day, who was to take her to his studio for pictures and a video shoot for a modeling portofolio. As anyone who saw the video can tell, she is lucky to be alive.
We also intend, in this message, to educate the general Ghanaian public about what happened, especially those who have already made up their minds. We would first of all like to point out that what people saw on the edited 48 minute video, was neither sex nor pornography but a young girl who was being brutally raped by several white men.
This was after she was driven to an isolated location out of State at night, drugged, and her cellular phone seized. The video has a man voice directing each action. Nothing on the video showed consensual sex and we have yet to hear one person say that they were sexually aroused by what they saw. The general reaction has ranged from anger, to sleeplessness, to loss of appetite.
Some have been overcome by such emotion that they have not yet regained their composer. The question to ask oneself is this: If this was a normal pornographic video, why did the men hide their faces from the camera except for brief occasional glimpses?
The truth of the matter is that Ivy was riding the New York City Subway when a white man who was walking through the train remarked that she looked beautiful. He told her that she looked like the model type and that he could get her into modeling. He also gave her a business card and asked her to call. The man represented to Ivy that he had helped get several girls like her into modeling and that he had access to several magazines.
A naive Ivy was ecstatic. Later that day, she called the man, who then told her that an aspiring model who was to come to his studio that day for a photo and video shoot had called off at the last minute and that if she wanted to get her foot in the door, she could come over as her replacement. Ivy agreed and the man drove over to pick her up. To make Ivy feel relaxed, the man picked up another lady (white or Hispanic) who he introduced as his wife and assistant and the person who will be applying the make-up and dressing her up for the pictures. The woman turned out to be an accomplice in the sordid scheme.
The long and short of it is that the man who met Ivy on the train was a scout whose mission was to find black girls to be delivered to a group of sick and probably racist white men to be raped and tortured and the whole thing captured on video for sale on the internet.
On their web site, they insult the girls that have fallen into their trap and boast about how they have broken them down and pulverized them.
Those Ghanaians who saw the video and knew right away that Ivy looked drugged, mechanical and was not a voluntary participant had the right instinct. Our hope is that others who concluded that Ivy voluntarily went to do a porn video and ended up being abused, will change their mind or at least keep an open mind after hearing the other side of the story.
To those who say that she should have refused or offered resistance, we have some questions to ask. Ask yourself; If you are tricked to an isolated location at night, your cell phone seized, doors locked behind you, with no knowledge of where you are and you are surrounded by six huge men telling you to cooperate or else, are you going to offer any resistance or are you going to do whatever it takes to come home alive?
How did you know that Ivy did not resist, if you have not watched the whole unedited video? Do you believe that only 48 minutes of video was shot or do you think that the video was longer but edited to 48 minutes? If you believe that the video was longer than 48 minutes, do you think that these individuals, who would not show their faces, would include portions that will show Ivy resisting? Have you seen any porn movie where the men hide their faces?
This case has just began, and as her attorneys we are determined to do everything in our power to bring the perpetrators to justice and to ensure that it does not happen to other innocent girls. Like the rapist who videotapes the encounter and keeps a copy of the tape, in the end, their own video will be the strongest evidence against them.
We implore those Ghanaians who are duplicating and selling the video to think of the consequences of their action. What they are doing is profiting from the rape and torture of a fellow Ghanaian and a young girl in her prime who could be their sister or daughter. We hope that their conscience will guide them to desist from such action.
In the same vein, we also implore Ghanaian African stores in the New York City Metropolitan area to desist from selling the tapes. If you know of anyone selling the video please call my office or send me an email. Your identity will be protected.
Let us all join in this fight for justice for our fellow Ghanaian citizen on this 50th Anniversary of our Independence.
John K. Akpalu, Esq., LLM (Harvard)
Law Office of John K. Akpalu & Associates, P.C.
14 Manor House Square
Yonkers, New York 10701
Johnakpalu2004@yahoo.com

While I think that their are many aspects of this statement that are improbable it clearly shows that their is in fact evidence that non-consensual activities do in fact take place on the set of Duke Skywalker's video. Of course I believe in innocent until proven guilty, but its still evidence and not merely hearsay.
Despite some of the improbabilities in the statement cited above, the Law Firm is an actual firm. I was told by her former attorney that the girl decided not to press the case further because of overwhelming "stress."
Of course many people will say "Duh!" to that and not see the point of even bring this up. The fact of the matter is that their are a lot of naive people in this world and their are people in the world who are willing to exploit that naivety.
Liberals (my people btw) are of course some of the worst.
Glenn Greenwald writing on Max Hardcore spews out this typically idiotic analysis.
"In the Land of the Free: if you're an adult who produces a film using other consenting adults, for the entertainment of still other consenting adults, which merely depicts fictional acts of humiliation and degradation, the DOJ will prosecute you and send you to prison for years.
"Fictional acts of humiliation"? Huh!
I know you'll probably just say:
"Forget it, Jake" It's Chinatown"
chinatown.pngEdited by - steph on Sep 6 2010
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Posted - Sep 4 2010 : 11:52PM
Can't say if it's real or fake however a simple internet search shows that Akpalu & Associates is at a different address than that specified and it is Hernandez & Associates at that address. Nor can I find anything showing this is a real press release. Just that it has been circulating the internet since at least 2007.
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Posted - Sep 4 2010 : 11:53PM
I should add, please point to where the official press release is so that we can see that it is real.
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 12:02AM
I know its real because I called the law office and confirmed that it was real.
They can be reached at their current location at:
LAW OFFICE OF JOHN K. AKPALU & ASSOCIATES 714 Morris Park Ave (at White Plains Road) Bronx, New York 10462. Tel: 718-828-0888.
The release can be found at my www.myzongo.com, a new and opinion site for Ghanaians.
http://www.myzongo.com/commentary/opinion/the-truth-about-ivy-the-ghanaian-girl-in-porn-video
Harri Patel
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 12:20AM
Another day, another alt-ID, another lame attempt to drum up interest in a website no one's interested in.
 
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 12:23AM
I don't believe in using multiple acounts. I am not PR for that website, if anything I am the opposite.
pornlaw
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 3:37PM
Wow that is not very smart if an attorney did release that... that can easily be seen as defamatory and actionable. I suppose Harvard doesnt teach that though....
An attorney should never comment on a pending litigation matter. Let the case and its resolution do the talking.
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GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 6:39PM
The attorney told me that the girl was too "stressed" to continue with her case.
I agree that the statement may be taken as defamatory. However perhaps he thought that their are more important things here than the law.
Also the "press release" may not have been an actual press release but something that the Ghanaian new magazine made up using some of the things the attorney told them. When talked to the attorney he seemed to imply that the contract was deceptive but that she understood that it was a porn production.
I think he's betting on the idea that the courts don't take the porn industry very seriously, and he think its especially unlikely they will take this particular branch of porn seriously.
zambi
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 6:54PM

Total bullshit. You have to be very naive to believe this crap.
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 7:02PM
I called the lawyer and that is what he told me. Why would he lie? Especially since he isn't even taking on her case. Obviously he takes this very seriously.
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 7:33PM
Sounds like good promotion for the video to me although it isn't to my taste !
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 7:37PM
Well he is a real attorney who is backing this story. How much do you think they could possibly be paying him to do their PR? Much more likely that this is real IMO than this is a sly promotion gimmick.
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 7:49PM
So this is not real? Bummer. I was gonna go check it out. Sounds like a good video.
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 7:57PM
Well whether or not the events took place in the manner described in the release it is probable that something happened that caused "Ivy" to seek the help of an attorney.
 
zambi
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 8:42PM
Because apparently they have not filed a police report?
It just doesn't sound credible at all. Just because you
called some guy doesn't mean he is a lawyer? Doesn't mean
he is a credible lawyer? In fact we don't even know if you
are legit my friend? Regardless the fact they didn't go to the police
with this just tells me its all bullshit. And if they did go
to the police and nothing happened then the police don't believe
them either.
Ignoring all that why would some rapists document their crime and
then charge to see it on internet? My guess is that they have very
credible evidence (probably a videotaped interview) showing the
girl clearly consenting to appear in the movie and perform sex acts
etc.
So I declare this a feeble attempt by someone trying to start some
kind of urban legend or a scam perpetrated by anti-porn zealots.
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 8:54PM
Well, I don't know if their was a police report or not. I did not ask. I could ask him or anybody else who has his number can ask him. If there was a police report that was publicly available it wouldn't have any names of the alleged victim for privacy reasons.
That being said. It is not necessary to have police evidence to charge somebody with a crime. Sometimes private investigators can provide evidence of a crime. Sometimes the police fail to investigate crimes that they should investigate.
As for the lawyer not being credible, again why would he make this up?
I am a real person. As for the anti-porn zealot theory scam, that does seem plausibly like something that an anti-porn zealots might make up but I am just giving evidence. Yes their is always the possibility that this isn't real at all but it's all possible its very real.
Harri Patel
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 10:51PM
It's more like a feeble attempt in a long line of feeble attempts to use ADT for free advertising. The operator of the website in question has a long history of doing this here.
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 5 2010 : 11:08PM
Well, in a way that is what this website is for. So that people in the porn biz can interact with their fans and of course to promote themselves. The internet does create a strange world where it is difficult to distinguish PR spin from reality. However it's never a good idea to write stuff about a site that is self-incriminating in an attempt at self-promotion.
Cody McLarge
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Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 1:47AM
It might be settled already, a victim a little too shaken up to proceed...
EDIT: It's probably bullshit.
Edited by - Cody McLarge on 9/6/2010 1:50:10 AM
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 2:05AM
Bullshit by whom though? Bullshit from the owners at the site trying to promote themselves? That explanation doesn't seem probable because it involves making incriminating statements and it makes false statements about "Ivy" as well. Bullshit from "Ivy" or her lawyer simply to cover up the shame of being involved in such an extreme production? Possibly but possibly not. Bullshit from an anti-porn zealot conspiracy? Possible but not likely IMO.

Edited by - GoodCharles on 9/6/2010 2:06:43 AM

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Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 3:33AM
Well, as some have noted, I have yet to hear if "Ivy" and co. filed a report against the company for their actions. If rape did occur, that is the best route for seeking justice. If the police ignored them, than they have reasonably decided not to pursue the matter for a legitimate reason. It's most likely that there is no legal avenue for proceeding. They may have determined that she signed the release and she signed the contract and she did so of her own accord with no proof to the contrary.
Then this firm puts out a very pointed "release" directly accusing Ghetto Gaggers of being a rape syndicate. This attorney must feel he has one hell of a case, or he's incredibly stupid because accusations like that are serious and he can find the tables turned on him quickly. I have no idea what his motive is, but most likely he's not fully informed.
Therefore, I am going to take the "shame" route. Maybe she was tricked or unaware of just how rough they were going to be, which is why several modeling agencies that contract to adult studios review material before contracting to companies and it's one of the first pieces of advice porn stars give to aspiring entertainers. Still, the producers probably did nothing illegal and this attorney is not fully informed. In such a case, unfortunately, it would be "Ivy" that is "bullshitting" us.
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 3:58AM
Well I agree that some of what has been stated seems implausible based on our assumptions about how the world works, but I think porn like this challenges our beliefs about the world. I think that its probable that something illegal happened to her or else she wouldn't have gone to a lawyer. Though it is possible that she made it all up without any basis whatsoever, possible but not necessarily so. If she was "tricked" then that is in itself an illegal action, non-consensual sexual acts are by definition non-consensual.
Just because the police turn down an investigation doesn't mean that nothing happened. Sometimes people people need to get a lawyer before any real justice takes place.
GoodCharles
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Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 9:51AM
Consider that Neesa filed a police report about Max Hardcore. She says that 12 separate police reports have been filed against him. I do not know what evidence she has to substantiate that claim, though.
It does provide evidence that undermines the claim that if Ivy filed a police and nothing was done about it that it means that nothing happened. Because if it is true that their were 12 police reports against Max Hardcore then it means that something was happening despite the fact that Max wasn't ever formally charged with the crime of sexual assault.
Neesa talks about her claim that Max Hardcore raped her on this video, and her claim that were multiple police reports filed against him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8gY6W8g4Ks
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Posted - Sep 6 2010 : 12:06PM
(sniff sniff) What's that smell? Oh it's only the pile of bullshit on the floor!
1. Nice Yahoo email address.
2. What's with the (Harvard) at the end of so called law firm name?
3. No links provided for us to witness the disturbing and disgusting visuals ourself.
4. The only thing missing is a note from a Foreign or Finance Minister telling us they need help moving some funds out of the country.
 
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I checked out the 1st half of the link. A lot of babbling about nothing.
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