Latest 4 scenes have been disappointing. None of the models were particularly interesting
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Posted - Apr 12 2024 : 2:22PM
In good news, Steve has said that they just finished 4 days of shooting with Roxanne. I don't know how man Excogigirls shoots that equates to, but hopefully at least two.
I would wager that one is with a newbie and the other with Megan.
Your dissertation seems to have disappeared, as did his response to both of our comments. Replaced with a far more subdued response. Super strange.
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Posted - Apr 12 2024 : 6:26PM
I don't see a response from Steve to us, but I see where someone told him to model after SLAYED lmao. I would cancel faster than lightning.
I am already close to it actually because I am not into Megan and Kelsey's style of porn, which is just beyond the limit of cheesy and fake that I can actively pay money for.
BUT a legit gg performer comes back soon. So things looking back up.
Yep, I generally feel the same, although I am such a sucker for closeups/visuals that I would periodically sign up and watch the scenes on mute. I'm just hoping that someone, anyone, gets the memo and gives us a site with way more (sustained) closeups.
The closeups on Slayed seemed way over done to me. It's too much and TOO well lit when they do it where it feels like I'm a gynecologist or something.
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Posted - Apr 15 2024 : 1:10PM
I....I *want* to feel like a gynecologist lmao. Like, show me every little bit of you that you want me to see, Ms Performer, by all means.
I wish performers today were good at providing the illusion that they were into pussy like that lol, but they keep each other as distanced as possible while still shooting in the same room these days lol
Haha, well if Slayed put out overall good scenes I could for sure ignore the ultra closeups and enjoy the rest but it seems like putting makeup on a frog. It's hyper produced but not much there unfortunately.
As far as the performers, (I think we spoke about this before) it seems like the best are having amazing sex off set for their private pages. It's just so damn hard to track all of these great scenes down that are behind paywalls.
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Posted - Apr 15 2024 : 2:16PM
^I don't mind pay walls, but they want you to pay to join memberships sight-unseen before you know if they have anything new you want to buy, and they want to charge you for it without you actually keeping the content. Performers who put their stuff on legitimate clips stores, I am fine looking there to see if they have anything new. The OF thing, where it's like "pay 10 dollars to see if there is a video you want to rent (not keep)" is obnoxious.
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Posted - Apr 24 2024 : 12:36PM
^Yeah, wasn't that great, after 20 minutes or so I just fast-forwarded to the orgasms. That Catalina is whisper quiet as well, I had to turn my audio way up during the interview, I could hardly make out what she was saying.
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Posted - Apr 25 2024 : 1:46AM
I thought it was alright. The ladies seemed to get along and weren't shy about getting into each other. It was cute.
Ditto. I didn't think it was too bad. I thought Catalina had definitely improved since her first outing. Like others, I am less enthused about the site, but I'm still hoping it'll finally find its footing. Currently rewatching WLT and wishing that Lansky hadn't given up on the genre...
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Posted - Apr 26 2024 : 9:36AM
What's missing?
That's one question I have had for a while...was WLT not making money? Given the state of the genre right now, I'm guessing he saw some signs that made him leave it alone.
Based on my research, that is partly to blame, but I think he partially disproved that when he made Blacked so profitable. My guess is that he also bumped heads with management RK, which prompted him to launch his own company.
The other issue is that he sold his stake in Vixen long before the launch of Slayed, so any creative vision he might have brought to the table was long gone by the time Vixen finally decided to dip their toes into the genre. KGB is doing his own thing, but I think we would have been in a different place if Lansky had launched Slayed.
Anywho, back to talking about Excogi. Hoping it gets better, it's the little underdog at this point.
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Posted - Apr 26 2024 : 1:39PM
Aah, management disagreement is a good bet. Leave it to ego to ruin a good thing, for sure. I don't follow you about the success of Blacked and how that points to whether WLT was making money though. I was thinking maybe he started to notice a dip in GG subscribers back then before it got to the point where it is now.
What would you like to see different Excogigirls-wise?
Sorry if I was unclear, but my point on Blacked was that it was a runaway success despite the industry's struggle. So I think it's less about the market and more about producing a quality product that people want. WLT was probably doing fine, but overall, I think his track record proves that its current status likely didn't matter.
Thoughts on the most recent Excogi scene? Based on his current lack of engagement and very halfhearted scene description, I'm really starting to wonder if Steve is losing interest in the site altogether....
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Posted - May 1 2024 : 9:25PM
^Oh wow, yep, that description is very unenthusiastic, indeed. Of course, there are only so many times you can write the same thing lol
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Posted - May 1 2024 : 9:33PM
I thought the scene was incredibly average and yeah, Steve hasn't bothered with a description, nobody's bothered to comment (or Steve hasn't put them up yet), it really is pointless.
She might be one of the Favs but maybe she doesn´t want to shoot anymore like Melanie Marie or others and Money seems not that important to her to get back (or Steve did not uploaded some of her Scenes yet. Don´t have any News of her and beside the ECG Network she shoots not much (5 Scenes for ECG and 5 for other Sites when i am right).
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Posted - May 2 2024 : 12:08PM
Steve has said Trinity is probably coming back. We shall see.
We'll see but Seve said so much over the Years on Ecg what never happens like a Return of Luna Mars or a lot of other Girls which never happened or an Upload of that 4 Way he released 5 Years after the Shoot an I don't give anything about what he posts. He only posts what the Members want to hear and if he really did what he wants and don't care about the Members most of the Time or why did he post that much Scenes with Britney in the last Time or Stella...
That's the same as on Ecg and besides 2 or 3 good Girls it was a really bad Year for the Network overall and why should I pay for Excogigirls anymore? I was a Member in the Beginning cause I got it cheaper and of course there are some good Scenes. And I was a Member 2 Month ago but canceled after a Month cause the Way the Site is going now. in the Beginning there were really Newbies on the Site who did her first Time but now there are mostly Scenes with Girls who did already 4 or 5 Scenes on Excogigirls like Britney and Raven oder Melanie and Stella and how do those Scenes fit in that Slogan do it the Ecg Way? And when I read the Thread here I am not the only One that feels like that and canceled the Membership
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Posted - May 3 2024 : 5:32AM
I mean, you're not wrong as far as there hasn't been a ton of new girls recently; there have been a couple. If that's the main draw for you, it makes sense to cancel and maybe try again later.
I'm just in it for the quasi-unscripted sex between people who have never done it with each other before.
My current reduced enthusiasm is due to something hard to control; I am looking for chemistry/interactions like the Roxanne/Trinity shoot. That can be difficult to manifest. I will say as far as personal preference, I don't see too much of this X-factor in the likes of Britney, Kelsey, and Megan, who all appear alot. Megan is ok; her performances are more attractive than when the site launched. Still missing an X-factor though, in my opinion. With Trinity and Roxanne supposedly set to shoot more, I think there's a greater chance of hot content ahead.
My other issue is that the list of acts to shoot in the list of positions gets kind of rote after a while. I'd like them to try for a little bit more dynamism/further unscripted approach. This would likely necessitate some confidence and steering of the show from the leading girl to kind of set her on flow as it comes to her, but that might be asking a lot. But if any girl who has appeared so far can deliver a more off-the-cuff fun sexual experience and maybe discover some instant sex chemistry with a random girl, it would be Trinity and Roxanne.
About this week's shoot: I thought it was pretty ok
Lezzyist - I forgot to answer what I thought was missing. For me, it's enthusiastic and fully committed oral sex, where there girl "dives in" and goes to town on the other girl, ideally with a decent amount of sustained closeups. I've seen plenty of newbies do it elsewhere, so I don't really buy a lot of what Steve is saying, especially if some of them were cast specifically for the site.
I've still been holding out on the possibility that it might (substantially) improve, but so far, it's only improved a bit and I am starting to think it's a lost cause. He just really seems to think a lot of the "hesitant licking" is way hotter than it actually is. I'm fine with that in the beginning, but not for 60-90 minutes....
Agregator - thanks for the intel on Steve. I was wondering why so much of the content is still basically the same after he promised so many changes.
I got a chance to see the April 24th scene and it seemed okay. It had the initial ingredients of a scene i'd really like going into it. We already know Roxanne is into girls but the new girl actually also seemed into it. She seemed to kiss good right from the beginning. She ate pussy really good too. The nails were a little much for a GG scene.
My gripe with these scenes though is that they are too formulaic. It seems like they have too many rules they have to stick to. For example, you'll notice when one of them is eating pussy they always have to have their arm tucked awkwardly underneath them. This is silly to me. Sometimes being way too concerned with ANYTHING blocking the camera becomes distracting. The greatest GG scenes have the girls freely touching each other all over. The cameras find ways around it.
They also never voice what they like to the other girl. Even an encouraging "yes keep going like this or that" would help make it more interesting. Instead it seems like they are told to keep quiet.
I think the toy should be removed from the GG scenes. It just takes away from things.
This is why the scene between Amber Moore and Alice (albeit awkward at times because of Alice's shyness) was my favorite because it sort of "broke the rules" when they went into the shower. Usually the shower scenes is sort of a BTS of the girls taking a shower and talking etc. But the Amber and Alice scene is where to me the scene actually got interesting because it wasn't choreographed.
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Posted - May 4 2024 : 4:26PM
I pretty much agree with all of this. I tried to express a bit of that in telling Steve, that maybe he should let the girls figure out how the shoot should flow on the fly. I think what you've said about the camera finding ways around it as they do their thing more naturally is super important. I think you should take this to the Excogigirls comments.
On the note about them being quiet, I agree, but I also don't want the "oh yes, oh my god, just like that, oh fuck, oh my god, fuuuuck, yes, yes, yessssss" porn thing. I super duper hate that, so I have been hesitant to say anything about their communication during the sex.
Edit: I also agree the Rox/Catalina shoot was pretty good. I don't think I commented on that one here. Catalina seems like a natural.
^Oh for sure I wouldn't want them to swing the other way and over vocalize fake stuff. That annoys me to no end and gets to the point of being condescending to the viewer lol.
I'm glad you saw what I saw in Catalina. Hopefully she is in more GG scenes because I think as she gets used to being on camera she will get way better since she seems to already have that attraction to women. (From what I can tell).
Trinity is back today. I know some people will be happy seeing her back! To those who watch the scene later (I'm not currently subscribed), let me know if it was good! I'm thinking about rejoining the site.
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Posted - May 15 2024 : 8:13AM
This weeks scene is with a returning Lena Anderson and new girl Sage King. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't think the start of this was very good at all. The chemistry was DEFINITELY there but kissing and the pussy licking was very lacking, there was a lot of it it just wasn't very deep. It got a lot better as it went on though as they connected more. It's a record for orgasms from Lena with 3. So I thought overall it was pretty solid.
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Posted - May 22 2024 : 10:28AM
^I actually groaned when I saw it was a threesome and the FIRST thing I noticed were the nails. I mean, if she came there with them you'd ask her to take them off right? And if they put them on there it was a bad choice. I only skimmed through it and it looked just OK but the thing I appreciated was that most if not all of the positions they did involved all 3 women.
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Posted - May 23 2024 : 9:18PM
I thought this week's was ok. I am really not into 3dome content. Honestly, increasingly, content that looks too far away from two women legitimately trying to get each other off bores the heck out of me.
I really just want someone with a camera to release shoots pf two women working sextape-style every week, honestly. That is increasingly the only porn I find interesting. I need candidness.
Back when girlsway started out, sextapelesbians was a nice concept, but sadly it seemed like it wasn't that well liked.
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Posted - May 24 2024 : 10:38AM
Yeah, that site has never really been about sex as much as skits. Even though sextapelesbians is scripted, it's not like "mom wants to have sex with her kid" or whatever. Wrong audience for a sextape site.
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Posted - May 29 2024 : 8:07AM
This weeks scene was muuuch better, I liked it quite a lot. It needed a bit more energy but I was happy overall. Kati is cute as all hell with a killer smile. Her pussy licking isn't exactly going to set the world on fire but it was solid enough, I love the way she cums as well. It's weird things that I find intimate, a few weeks ago it was Trinity putting Luna's hair in a hair tie and this week it was Megan putting hair clips on Kati. In some ways I think it's MORE intimate than eating a pussy, maybe because you just don't ever see it. The toy usage was kept to a minimum which I appreciated, there was actually 2 moments when Kati rejected toys because she couldn't handle them. Very solid scene overall. I think this shot says a lot.
as a dude, part of a good GG scene is that the ladies are genuinely enjoying themselves. if one lady hates it don't cast her; there are a dozen others that would love the day.
^ If you've not already joined, how do you know what is and isn't in the scenes? You can't judge without watching whole scenes and not just a few clips!
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Posted - Jun 2 2024 : 4:39PM
^^But that's how most GG sites are too lol. Maybe not always a dude talking in the shoot, but the other stuff is pretty common these days.
I would say at least about this site that the fake and stupid noise isn't as bad as the other sites, but it is trending that way and will get there. Outside maybe 2 or 3 videos, the videos at the front when viewing by Popularity have the annoying fake noise element, along with the other two elements you mention. But there's some good stuff in there too.
Videos with the woman named Trinity are pretty good in general. Trinity with Roxanne, and Trinity with Amber, are the best things on the site and haven't been quite matched in quality, now that I think about it.
I'd say grab it for a month. The members will move the site toward being more Brazzers/Girlsway performances soon, but it's ok compared to other stuff on the market right now.