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Does anyone find anything so pointless and annoying as "Cuckold"? I mean, everyone knows that's not the woman's true partner watching. It's just some member of staff the company has hired to pretend he's the woman's partner, so why have it? Him not being her true partner defeats the whole object of the scene! To have a sex scene and have this nobody weirdo watching in the background is also distracting and off-putting. Time and time again I think I've found a great scene with a hot babe only to find a creepo hovering in the background. Anyone else find this category as frustratingly annoying as me? Edited by - Darth Bush on Dec 3 2016
Well... but isn't the same thing true for all scenarios acted on porn? WE also know that it's not a true teacher forcing the schoolgirl into sex, not really incest, not really a true boss & secretary, or a nurse... or in Forced Sex scenario, it's not really a rapist/thug. I'm not saying that it is NOT pointless/annoying from this point of view. I'm just asking why it would be MORE pointless/annoying than any other story fetishes/categories and scenarios.
Porn involves staged scenarios?! Whatever next... It's called fantasy. Whether you realize it or not, all of the porn you watch and enjoy has been coordinated by workers and didn't magically, organically happen in front of a camera. They are performing for you and you indulge in that performance.
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Darth Bush Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 3 2016 : 1:50PM
But as I said, that guy watching is completely unnecessary. Even if you don't go for the fantasy paedo stuff (as I don't), at least it's the guy forcing himself on the girl to have sex, but the fake cuck stuff is a completely dressed stranger watching a couple having sex. Do any of you get your rocks off watching a completely dressed stranger watching a couple having sex?
^ Given the fact that these types of scenes exist, I'm sure quite a few people do. The world is full of people whose particular kinks are pretty much incomprehensible to others. It's just the way of things. No sense in trying to apply your particular tastes to others.
^^ Yes. There are also lots and lots of people who enjoy watching clothed women fuck naked men, naked men fuck each other, fully clothed women squash ground beef with their naked feet, and on and on. The cuck genre is popular, so people obviously like it. Other people will not be able to understand some of your preferences, either. Edited to add another up arrow. Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 12/3/2016 1:53:34 PM
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 3 2016 : 1:54PM
In terms of fantasies this is hardly an uncommon one. Voyeurism is obviously also a component and that is a very popular fantasy as well and obviously is well suited to visual pornography as a theme.
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Posted - Dec 3 2016 : 3:37PM
I like voyeurism. Me, I'm the voyeur, and I don't find it at all sexy seeing another stranger doing the same thing. I don't think seeing women dressed as little children having sex is that nice, but at least she is having sex with a guy. Cuck, on the other hand, is a guy sitting as some sort of prop watching complete strangers having sex. Ironically, if that was her real partner cuck would actually be pretty sexy, but it's not. The guy's just an extra, which makes the concept of "cuckold" redundant. Why not just make it a straight sex scene? Better still, why not have her saying that she's doing it behind her husband's back? Then the scene wouldn't be ruined by having us seeing this stranger hanging around in the scene. Fantasy for those who want to imagine she's doing the dirty, and a straight scene for those of us who just want to see the sex. Edited by - Darth Bush on 12/3/2016 3:43:28 PM
A major part of any work of fiction is the "Willful suspension of disbelief"... it means that your brain is never going to have those sympathetic reactions that makes funny scenes funny, scary scenes scary, and daresay I hot scenes hot, if you ardently refuse to let it. You have to try to work with it and immerse yourself in the scene a little bit as if it were real, instead of constantly telling yourself that is isn't.
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Posted - Dec 4 2016 : 7:43AM
Well, what can I say, I'm more into realism rather than fantasy setups. That's the reason why I love the idea of women like Lana Rhoades and Stella Cox, or Angela White and Phoenix Marie having sex together. Not only are they stunning babes, but they're lovers in real life. I also like casual nudity, where the woman's really nude in public. Better still if she's having sex in public. And of course, I don't like acting during sex. I prefer to see genuine reactions from the woman, even if it is just panting and gasping. I don't like a woman performing a sex act when she's not really into it or she doesn't like her partner (the exception being BDSM). Yep, my only fantasy is the babe in question, and keep the rest as real as possible. But back to the cuckold, what is so sexy about the "fantasy" of seeing some other guy watching his wife having sex with someone else? If you've got some kind of fetish about that sort of thing, shouldn't it be about your wife having sex with someone else? Again, that's another reason why I don't understand it. Even though I don't like POV, at least I understand it, because you're imagining having sex with the woman. Cuckold, on the other hand, you're watching some other guy pretending to watch his wife having sex.
^ Dude. It's not for you. End of story. You're fighting a pointless battle with your "shoulds." It's hot to people who enjoy fantasy humiliation, voyeurism, and a host of other complicated turn ons specific to them. You don't like it, you don't get it, and that's fine. Why worry? You should also know that the examples you provide that present a more realistic scene are also staged and performed, regardless of whether the performers are real-life lovers (and even there, you might be indulging in a script).
I agree with the others that point out that your rationalizations in your head that make sense mostly to you (that's not a putdown because that's how most people are). Most of the stuff in porn is acting and fantasy, yet your fine with acting and pretend in certain scenarios but not others. Obviously cuckold isn't your thing. I'm not a huge fan of cuckold myself but I watch it because I'm much more into the two people having the actual sex than I am with the guy sitting off to the side watching the action. If we applied your thinking to most porn it would be a waste of time watching any of it. In most cases those girls aren't real secretaries, cheerleaders, MILFs, barely legals, horny housewives, horny lesbians, or hot bimbos willing to bang any guys who comes along. Why bother with POV porn? That's not my penis.
I guess I can understand you wanting to see a real couple doing thee things but for me and perhaps a majority of watchers out there it probably wouldn't make much of a difference. In my mind I pretty sure seeing Katy Cox or Janet Mason's husband on camera playing the cuckold wouldn't make the scene any better than using the stand-in guys. Some people may get that extra thrill from having that guy or her real husband over in the corner watching but I'm guessing most people are far more into the action on the main stage between the performers having sex. Also, for me at least...the idea of putting real life lovers in a scene together sounds great on paper but in reality just because they are lovers in real life doesn't mean that going to be the best scene for either person involved. Maybe it's just me but I have yet to see a scene with a real life couple be the best scene from either performer. Not saying those scenes are bad but IMO they are never the best. There always seems to be someone else who they do better work with. So, like many of the porn fans out there, the stuff you are into and think is best isn't much of a concern to most of the audience.
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Posted - Dec 4 2016 : 3:09PM
You do realize none of the storylines in porn are meant to actually convince you of anything? It's porn for god's sake. I love cuckold porn, especially when the cuck is interactive. The mean bitches site is especially nice where the girls force the cucks to eat them out of worship their feet, while they are tending to a hung guy.
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Posted - Dec 4 2016 : 5:30PM
I think I didn't explain myself properly. It's not the fantasy thing or made up script, but rather this. If you watch interracial you get interracial, if you watch lesbian you get lesbian, if you watch BDSM you get BDSM, if you watch shemale you get shemale, if you watch orgy you get an orgy etc. But if you watch "cuckold" you're not getting cuckold. I don't think there's one category of porn where you don't get what's on the description, except for cuckold. It's not like shemale where the partner is definitely is a shemale, or the partner is black if you watch interracial. You tune in to watch a guy watching his wife having sex with another guy, but you don't get that. You get a studio extra watching a stranger having sex with another complete stranger, so it's in no way cuckold.
You get a woman dressed up in a cheerleader outfit having sex. That's the kink of it. It doesn't change the fact that the guy isn't the woman's husband, which is the whole point of cuckold.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 4 2016 : 9:33PM
You obviously would be incapable of watching feature porn which is full of fictional scenarios, people pretending to be lovers, wife and husband, family members, serial killers, madmen, prostitutes, children, spirits, soldiers and seaman, lower class thugs, failed businessmen, spies, aliens, cops, detectives, secretaries, teenagers, teachers, cult leaders, criminals, etc. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/5/2016 11:18:02 AM
But you don't get a real cheerleader. You get someone playing a role. Just like you're getting in most sex scenes you watch...people playing roles. As I mentioned before no one will see or agree with your point of view because you've made up in your head which role-playing is and isn't acceptable while the rest of us simply see it all as acceptable role-playing.
If you don't understand that the cuck situation and the cheerleader situation are the same thing and "that's the kink of it" is the answer to your own question, then I don't think you will ever understand. Maybe it would help to imagine a scenario where a chick is watching? I have no clue. But "that's the kink of it" is as good an explanation as I think anyone has offered in this thread.
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stoneblade Deactivated User
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Posted - Dec 5 2016 : 9:45AM
Well most lesbian porn, isn't 'real lesbian' porn. just two woman who pretend to be affectionate with each other. Take the Stoya/ Kayden lesbian scene. It was a great scene but had no lesbians
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Posted - Dec 6 2016 : 8:55AM
Look at it this way, I'm okay about the partners who're indulging in the sex pretending whatever they like. It's the third party, the studio extra just sitting there, fully clothed in the background, that I find really distracting and really rather creepy. More often than not I'm totally okay when the guy and woman having sex pretend something. It's when a stranger sits in the background just watching do I find it really off putting. It's especially bad when the scene would otherwise be fantastic, with one of my favourite girls doing loads of great stuff with one of my fav studs. But damn, if it wasn't for that weirdo sitting in the background! Get my meaning now? Edited by - Darth Bush on 12/6/2016 8:59:05 AM
Apparently, some people fantasize about being that weirdo in the background. Other people fantasize about making someone else be that weirdo in the background. I find foot fetish content completely off-putting and don't watch scenes with my favorite stars if it includes that. It doesn't upset me because I don't have this sense of entitlement that all porn has to cater to my tastes.
There is this Brooke Wylde scene on Dogfarts and i felt so bad for the cuck.They made him lick cum off her and were so nasty to the poor boy.I legit felt sad for the guy even though i knew he was an actor.I just hope he got paid really well to taste so much cum. Are these cucks who taste cum straiht dudes or are they gay? This is perhaps off topic but dammit just thinking about that scene makes me weep for that dude now .
I wonder about that myself. There are some that must be gay or bi. Those are the ones that actually have to eat cum or blow the guy like in those KICK-ASS movies. I get annoyed when some of the EVIL ANGEL directors do stuff like that with no warning. Then there are the guys who basically just sit there and look lost and confused. There's this little bald guy with glasses who's whole porn career seems to be appearing in cuckold scenes sitting off to the side looking weird. Every now and then a director seems to throw him a bone and let him bang a girl if the part calls for a weird guy to have sex with a girl. Him and the Asian guy who gets kicked in the balls are interesting to me because they have such strange porn jobs.
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Posted - Dec 7 2016 : 3:48AM
In real life Denzel Washington is not a cop, lawyer, doctor, member of the military, gangster, pilot, or a teacher. Yet those were all the roles he has played throughout his career. Scripted Hollywood is not all that much different from scripted porn isn't it? AJ Applegate and Riley Reid are very much in their twenties now yet they still get cast in schoolgirl roles and the coming of age daughter roles. Fake scripted cuckolding what's so different?
If anyone is interested in real life porn "cuckold", i know "mature" performer Susan Reno has her real life husband actually doing the filming/directing in her scenes. I've also seen Chelsea Rae have her real life boyfriend on set in some of her scenes.
(Sorry, I know this is off topic.) I love those (rare) scenes where the director tells the lady "you've still got some on your cheek", and she says back to him "you wanna' lick it off?". Edited by - Simple Simon on 12/7/2016 7:42:25 AM
^ Please name titles!! I was watching TABOO III last night and a dude makes out with his female partner after cumming in her mouth. No big deal, just passionate and hot. 👍
^ Sorry, thé only one's i can remember off thé top of my head are: Ashley Long in RLD 's 'Gang Bang 2' - she then offers all the men to lick it off. Alicia Rhodes in '7 The Hard Way 2'. it's actually in the BTS over the credits. Alicia has cum all over face and the director says to her they don't have any towels, she says back to him "we'll have to use your tongue to lick it off". (Those sexually aggressive British women ...) I'll try and remember some others. It's not my thing, but I'm pretty sure there's a whole series related to this called something like 'Cum in my Mouth, and I'll Spit it Back into Yours'.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 7 2016 : 2:59PM
I believe there was back in the gonzo goldrush days and it featured Mark Davis who was down for this. In particular I remember a hot scene he did with Sunny Lane that ended that way. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/7/2016 3:05:18 PM
Mark Davis cums on a girl's lips/face/mouth and proceeds to kiss them afterwards in quite a few scenes i think.He has this scene with Shyla Stylez where they are a bored couple waking up every morning and him going to work and her bored sitting at her dining table and then she wears a lingerie and seduces him.
Also Mods : Prior to Simple Simon's post above i was logged in but couldn't make a post in this thread i.e i was logged in but the reply button wasn't showing.This happens a lot to me.Why?
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 7 2016 : 3:07PM
Best to post about the reply issue in Tech Talk where the mods will see it and look into it. First question will be what browser you're using so I'd include that from the top.
Dani Daniels: The Iconic Collection - review by Captain Jack
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