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kinguntermensch
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Posted - Feb 14 2016 : 11:58AM
I know some sites photoshop pictures, but how are the films edited? Noise overlay? Edited unclean skin? Or is color changing like Blacked does it the "fakest" thing about porn scenes? Is everything we see on screen what actually happened?
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Oct 23 2016 : 5:42PM
Please?
pat362
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Posted - Oct 23 2016 : 9:14PM
I'll try to answer the first part of your question but I hope you can explain what you mean by the above statement? Are you asking us if they somehow edit content to show something that isn't true or if they add stuff that wasn't filmed for the scene? While I wait for you to reply I can at least confirm that in the good old days of 35mm film and the arrival of VHS tapes that it was not uncommon for an anal themed scene/movie to have a non-anal performer appear to do anal all the while shooting the scene in such a way that her face is never visible in the anal shot because doing so would reveal the truth that said performer did not actually do anal. Some producers were better than others but for the most part it didn't take long to realise that the girl receiving the anal penetration isn't the performer herself.
I may be wrong but I don't think a lot of photoshopping is done in porn films. For one thing that requires hiring professional people and that cost money. Porn producers are already not making huge profits so hiring extra people to work on a scene is just not good business. Also it's not necessary. I think studios like blacked, tushy and Vixxen to name a few simply using special filters on their cameras to give the scenes a cleaner look. Their choice of shooting location also help because it's always well lit with natural light that comes in from all the windows. They shoot in the day time so no need for artificial lighting and they probably invest in makeup artist to hide the various skin blemishes most people are plagued with.
A_Fan
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 12:11AM
THey don't have a lot of money to spend huge hours and resources video editing their shoots. There are of course lots of cuts if a guy loses wood or they have an anal accident or a cumshot is not right.... they do use fake cum at times, especially in anal creampie videos now. But there isn't any "fake sex" or "fake sex acts".....
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 6:42AM
By fake porn I mean something like a girl who has a huge wart or anything ugly that can't be hidden with make up gets removed by editing it out for the video. But that would probably be really expensive, right?
I know there are apps which changes hair colours, that would be possible. They need a blonde girl for the part so they just change her hair colour by editing it.
 
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 6:53AM
Are there some girls not doing anal nowadays that just get their head put on the body of a girl taking anal?
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 7:37AM
No, and no.
No warts edited out in video, no heads of different girls being put on other girls in video.
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 7:53AM
Why not? It's possible as seen in movies
Simple Simon
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 8:03AM
Actually, can I ask it stunt dicks are used? As in a man fills in for another male performer. I assume it would be needed, as I'm sure there would be times when a man can't complete a scene.
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 8:07AM
I'm sounding like a troll. I'm actually just paranoid that I fap to a girl but in reality it's a pretty girls head put on the body of a ugly girl. It's highly unlikely, but do we know for sure? And with each passing day the the possibility becomes more likely as technology is advancing. This stuff is scaring me.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 8:18AM
^ It's highly doubtful this has happened with moving images. But if you had jerked it to a composite, who cares?
RobinWood
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 12:11PM
It is possible and it's been done. See Lars Von Trier's two volume director's cut of "Nymphomaniac". Or if you are hesitant to make the six hour commitment, just look for the clips online. It actually looks quite seamless (this is assuming they didn't lie and just wanted to cover up the fact that they actually had the actors engaging in unsimulated sex).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2328660/Above-waist-stars-A-listers-Shia-LaBeouf-Uma-Thurman-let-performing-real
Of course this was not a strictly pornographic film, it's a legitimate independent film with some hardcore images . And the leads were played by legitimate actors, not porn stars. And therein lies the rub with the OP's question. The reason to do this in "Nymphomaniac" was because they were using real actors who do not do porn. But they agreed to act in it and have their images composited into the scenes digitally. There's no reason to spend the money to do this with porn actors who have no problem actually having sex on camera. The only reason to do this is for getting moving images of actors who would not do porn to appear as if they are. In "Nymphomaniac" it required a lot of work, including the actors acting for the imagery that required compositing. A lot of things went into making it look seamless.
Theoretically, someone could take a sex scene featuring a non porn actor in a movie and try to composite that image into a scene with real sex, but they'd probably have to shoot the real sex to match the lighting and imagery of the real scene, which would require a lot of money. And if the actors didn't give permission they could and would sue. Photoshop fakes stills are small potatoes... realistic looking faked video footage is a different story though.
As digital technology advances though, such a scenario could become affordable for amateurs FX wizards who just want to tinker around. It's not there yet but it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility or speculation.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 12:26PM
^ Right, that's why I said it is highly unlikely. Porn studios are working with much lower budgets, and I think you would be able to tell if they had tried.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 12:38PM
This is way, way beyond the budget of modern porn.
A_Fan
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 12:48PM
I seem to recall back in the 90's when anal was not as widespread and acceptable with young women as it is today, some girls would use "stunt butts" in order to get anal out to their fans without doing it. It was likely very rare, however, none of that happens anymore.
Edited by - A_Fan on 10/24/2016 12:49:10 PM
 
RobinWood
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 1:13PM
Well technically you said it's highly doubtful it's happened :). I think Nymphomaniac is worth bringing up in the conversation. Obviously, this is all out of the budget of modern porn and isn't being done now. But the stuff you see on "Game of Thrones" today was way out of the budget of scripted television just ten years ago. Digital technology is constantly developing and becoming more affordable for smaller budgets. Who knows what will be possible on the budgets porn producers have to throw around in ten years.
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 4:44PM
Isn't that super obvious if they have a fake butt?
A_Fan
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 5:25PM
I am wondering as to if your questions are actually serious....
What I am referring to, is where they would film a girl having anal sex...... so when they edited the scene the feature performer would have the anal part put into her scene from that other performer (without the face showing of course)... like a stunt man would stand in for a movie star .. hence 'Stunt butt".
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 5:26PM
^^ Watch MIDNIGHT DESIRES. Eric Edwards uses a stunt butt in that movie. It's obvious if you are literate in film editing, probably less obvious if you're not. In gonzo, it would be incredibly difficult to pull off.
Edited to add: wait, this dude actually thought they used fake butts??
Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 10/24/2016 5:27:36 PM
pat362
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 6:23PM
Yes it was. Now imagine being someone like me who reads about an upcoming anal scene from his favorite performer, waits the weeks for the movie to be released and when he sees the movie realises that he has been had. It's the old bait and switch and the performer doesn't actually perform the anal. Luckily those were rare but it was a lot more common for a non-anal performer to appear in an all anal movie and manage not to do anal.
A_Fan
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 7:02PM
I don't think it happens anymore pat... at least not in gonzo.... maybe in some feature movie, who knows..... most women who enter porn these days have already had anal sex .... remember , young women today and the guys they are dating have have grown up watching internet porn, so they are bringing these ideas to their new sex lives and thus getting into more things at a younger age . a little different from 1980's and 90s performers who's sexual desires came from simple nude mags and some VHS porn and hadn't seen 8 man blowbangs and double anals by their 20th birthdays.
Edited by - A_Fan on 10/24/2016 7:06:38 PM
shenmue
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 7:29PM
The OP is the most paranoid and over thinker on this site, he also made this classic thread.https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/pornstars-getting-older/reply/3110995
OP, stop over thinking porn and just enjoy it for what it is in the moment.
Gore Gore Girl All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 7:42PM
^ Oh god, I had forgotten about that thread. Yes, it is a classic. The OP asks incessant questions in general and needs to chill the fuck out.
murdock
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Posted - Oct 24 2016 : 11:25PM
I kinda want to put on my nihilist hat every time the OP starts a new thread. Every pornstar you jerk off to will be dead someday. Beauty is temporary, death is forever. It's all pointless anyway.
A_Fan
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Posted - Oct 25 2016 : 12:36AM
That is quite the thread.
 
kinguntermensch
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Posted - Oct 25 2016 : 8:18AM
I guess I am, but what can I do? I can't just stop and change myself, you know?



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