Jules, you are the best director. amazing! just have one request that you could use to make your titles that little bit better. <if that is possible> you know you that you love close ups of the girls butts as they are walking about before a scene? i think you should maybe let the girls go walkies after they have been given a good seeing to. this way we could see the butts fully naked and would differ from the usual close up of the face. what do you reckon?
also you always dress the girls in naughty-wear.
my particular faves include:
Shyla in Flesh Hunter 2. <where did you get these pants from?>
Shyla in Lex the impaler 2.
Jewel de' nyle in ass worship.
belladonna in ass worship.
i think we should see more of the girls in fish-net stockings/tights.
keep up the good work mate.
doe's anyone else have any suggestions for minor tweaking?
and what are everyones fave naughty-wear???
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superfly skywarrior Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 13 2002 : 7:11PM
actually, as your after jules' attention it'll save me starting a seperate thread.
whats with the weird extra footage on some of your dvds???
i really don't want to see chicks pissed off and disgruntled cos they've got cum in their eye. i don't wanna see jenna haze pull a tissue out of her ass and let us know there is shit on it???? WTF???
i just saw flesh hunter 3 and in the extra footage your wailing on gauge cos there was cum on the bed??
why can't you show the girls chatting or ask them about themselves.
porn is fantasy, keep the reality in your own private collection please.
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Druber Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 13 2002 : 7:22PM
Jules, you dress them nice and put their asses really at maximum use, which I do much appreciate. But I am not the super-die-hard ass-only man: In the tease section I would like a bit more attention on those girls legs and shoes. (Lex does that part very nicely, BTW)
My fave naughty wear are stockings, preferably fishnet, but not only and high high open toe plateau heels. Any kind of high heels and boots, do. (I do not want to wear those girls all the same, but NO naked girls, please!)
wow, superfly, thats going pretty far to find something you didnt like, the extras. No girls have ever been "disgruntled" or "upset" in any way, and I never "wailed" about cum on the bed, it wasnt my bed anyway, we were joking around :), i find it hard to beleive that anyone would have taken it any other way. I challenge someone else here to look at the extra footage and tell me their interpretation of "wailing" I think i might just stop putting "outtakes" on the dvds as extras, people always seem to mis-interpret what really goes on. My suggestion to people who might lose their fantasy- DO NOT WATCH EXTRAS! REALITY ONLY!
also you always dress the girls in naughty-wear.-odelay
yes, i hand pick everything the girls wear in my movies thanks, jules there you go superfly, you got my attention....
I think i might just stop putting "outtakes" on the dvds as extras
No. Don't do that.
I have Flesh Hunter 3, had it for a while now, but please don't bitch slap me for saying this... I haven't yet watched it.
Anywho, I can't comment on the extras on the disc, but please don't stop. I actually enjoy the candid shots, after all it is "behind the scenes", as opposed to a "up" type interview.
I, for one, really love the extra outtake footage on your discs. Please don't take that out. I think it's interesting and it's neat to see the befores and afters when part of the fantasy is stripped away. I really love it. The outtakes with Jenna Haze and Luna in Flesh Hunter were just great.
I also second the comment about the clothing the girls wear. I love your choices, and I really love that the outfits become a part of the sex, and not just completely thrown away once the teasing is over.
Hey Jules how about in the next 2 girl 1 guy scene once the guy cums instead of going to the next scene right away how about having the two girls swap kisses for like two minutes. I am telling you nothing more sexy than two girls kissing and after someone has cum in their mouths they won't have to bitch about the lipstick smudging,lol. Seriously why there isn't more g/g kissing is a mystery to me. I personally like everything of yours I have seen so far some with Feeding Frenzy being my favorite and probably the Jenna Haze scene in Flesh Hunter 2 being my single favorite scene. I like that you are using Gauge so much, just a suggestion put her and Monica Sweetheart in a scene together, I think that would kick some serious ass. Thanks for listening Jules and keep it up!!!
I think it's wonderful that people like Jules Jordan would even bother to post here. Sure, I'd still love this site even if it were just porn fans talking. But I love it even more with the presence of Jules, Tricia, Jenna, Tom Byron and other big shots. And we need more of them.
I'd hate for Jules to suddenly decide that he's turned off by this forum and stop coming here as a result of sharp criticism. And Jules is not the only star to receive sharp criticism.
For example, I recall reading in another thread here where some porn fan was extremely rude and insulting when criticizing Tom Byron for something. Tom did respond and he was very gracious, yet somewhat taken aback.
When rendering criticism, I'd suggest that people employ maximum tact and diplomacy when getting their point across (not so much when it's directed at other porn fans, but when it's directed at porn celebrities like Jules).
I don't think any of us really likes criticism, especially when we're breaking our backs to try to please everyone. True, constructive criticism can be a good thing, but the more tact and diplomacy that the criticism is clothed in, the more likely it will be favorably received and considered.
Again, let me repeat, my point is not to discourage criticism when you think it's appropriate. Rather, my point is that when you do find it necessary to criticize, be tactful and diplomatic, especially when dealing with celebrities.
Very well said, Pontus! The exact same could be said for all the various porn studios and their representatives here such as Cal from ANA/DIABOLIC, Dion from RED LIGHT DISTRICT and David from WICKED PICTURES just to name a few and all the bullshit they sometimes have to experience at this wonderful forum. But some idiots here take it upon themselves to bitch and whine about certain titles or series and even the stars and directors themselves who make these movies possible in the first place. Sad to say, but even pornography can be taken for granted...
Edited by - Asmodeus on Sep 14 2002
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superfly skywarrior Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 14 2002 : 7:23AM
Ahhh,diddums
first i'd like to apologize to jules for my tone, it was late, i'd had a few jars, and i wasn't thinking all that clearly. re-reading my post it is a tad harsh.so, i'm sorry, jules. but my sentiment remains the same i'd much rather see the girls having a laugh and joking or telling us about how they're doing and so on. obvoiously, i mean if those things happen, i don't mean get the girls to look happy and talk shit. i'm all for the reality of porn, but there are different ways in which to view reality. i believe jules when he says that they are just fooling around, but it doesn't really come across that way. mayby thats because you are only showing part of what went on and it can be taken out of context, sometimes.
actually, i like the 'in scene' out-takes, jules. but when the scene is finished they're not out-takes anymore and they take on a different form.
so, anyway, sorry for wailing on you jules and to all the ADT er's who had to read it.
Allow me to just jump in here for a sec..! Jules! your stuff is really what porn should be about, hot and nasty. I've a few of your titles and I've watched them many times over. Picture Quality is number one and thanks for all those wonderful Anal Creampies and Gapes. If there was one thing I would like to see included on your DVD release that would be the addition of "Previews" . I've bought other titles just because I'd seen the preview. And DVD techonlogy allows for so much to be added on the disc, so why not add a few. Preview to some of us are like bonus and sometime I even watch the previews before the main feature.
I hope you and Evil Angel will consider this soon.
One of the best "behind the scenes" extras clips was on RLD's Just over eighteen #2 with Jenna Haze. It's mostly interview but you get a good idea of how fun-loving Jenna H. is. There's even a trampoline scene!
I have no problems with the extras Jules put on the discs (must've missed the dirty t.p. one)...they are sometimes an interesting glimpse at the production side of what's going on in the scenes. Jenna's meditation in FH2 was kind of funny...because she was serious. Jeannie didn't seem too angry about getting "smacked with cum". It would be interesting to hear what the stars themselves feel about the behind the scenes extras. One clip where Jenna actually gets hurt during the DP in FH2 was kind of enlightening. The guys of course laughed it off but that's the type of thing that would drive a girl to JKP...literally.
I'm of the opinion that the more extra footage, the better. I don't really care what it contains, I'll still watch it. If it's Aurora Snow giving a lecture on the economic conditions of post war Europe, I'll watch it. If it's Shyla playing miniature golf, I'll watch it. And even if it's Jenna Haze with poopy TP, I'll watch it. My point: it's extra stuff! Jules didn't have to put this together but the fact that he did is appreciated...at least by me. Keep up the good work Jules!
Just to add to some great points made by Pontus, the post regarding Tom (and Extreme) was written before Tom began posting here. Tact and diplomacy should not be reserved only for the industry representitives that are already participating.
It seems pretty clear, at least to me, that there are other industry people who lurk here, but do not post. It sould be a shame if the thing that was preventing people from posting is the fact that they are being abused here because people are unaware that what they are writing is being read by the person about whom they are writing.
Jules - this is a great idea! Great butt shot potential!
I love the extras you include. Viewers have to have a sense of humour and understand that you are joking with the girls for example Lex the Impaler 2 where you say to Alexa "Ok - time for Anal" ...its a joke! Its not like you were forcing her to do an anal scene!
Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00
Posted - Sep 15 2002 : 7:58PM
I think all of us porn people are used to people saying stuff about us, but it never gets easy to hear people say things bad or harshly. That being said, the forums took a little detour a while back but have been improving a lot lately. However, I do think it's important to remember that when a person says something, they should say it as if the subject of the post were reading it over their shoulder as they were typing it.
OK - back to the subject! At Evil Angel, we try pretty hard to balance out the extra footage with keeping the reality and keeping the fantasy. So although we may show that a girl wasn't overly thrilled about getting cum in her eye, we wouldn't think it was appropriate to show if a girl was bitchy or something during the shoot. If we have gone over the line a few times, I'm sorry if anyone feels that way, but remember that behind-the-scenes stuff is meant to be completely separate from the scene, and if that's not what you want to see, then I suggest that you skip the behind-the-scenes section and go straight to the extra sex footage, or skip the extra video section alltogether.
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Planet Sex Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 15 2002 : 8:36PM
But we´re still allowed to speak our minds, or must we become just yes-people?
..... First there was the dream, now there is reality. Here in the untainted cradle of the heavens will be created a new super race, a race of perfect physical specimens. You have been selected as its progenitors, like gods you offspring will return to Earth and shape it in their image. You have all served in public capacities in my terrestrail empire. Your seed like yourselves will pay deference to the ultimate dynasty which I alone have created. From their first day on Earth they will be able top look up and know that there is law and order in the heavens!
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Planet Sex Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 15 2002 : 8:39PM
Strangely enough, I DO like that kind of thing. It´s on the outtakes section, so it´s not as if they´re ruining the scene per se.
Patience is a virtue, but who wants to be virtuous? 4283 Posts 4/00
Posted - Sep 15 2002 : 11:02PM
I'm not saying that I think you should kiss anyone's ass. There was a topic not so long ago about posting negative stuff, and some people talked about speaking their minds. I think it's fine to not censor what you think. I just think it's usually worth it to think about HOW you say it.
It would have been one thing for the person who was talking about Tom Byron to say that Tom was beyond his performing years (not my opinion, Tommy!), but to say it with such a harsh tone is what I'm suggesting to avoid. I mean, if someone said that I had packed on some pounds, they'd be right, but if they said that I had turned into a fat cow who was unbearable to look at, that would be a little hard for me to read. No one needs to boost my ego - I'm a big girl. It's just that I constantly read how a lot of you would like to see other stars come to this site and start posting, so feel free to speak your mind, just try not to be an ass about it!
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Posted - Sep 15 2002 : 11:06PM
Amen to that.
DenverDon
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Planet Sex Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 15 2002 : 11:22PM
NO THEY WON´T!
Tricia, I will say it once and for all: you didn´t packed on some pounds, you ACQUIRED MEATIER CURVES! Would you call Marilyn Monroe fat? No! Sophia Loren was fat? No! Betty Page? NO! So YOU´RE NOT FAT, crognabbitt!
It pisses me off when people use anorexic supermodels as role models for beauty. Just yesterday, I got a friend of mine to an italian restaurant and force-fed her will pasta. She was losing her ASS! Gimme Pink´s chubby arms anytime, I don´t want bony girls for sex. One wrong move and you can lose an eye with all those sharp edges. Ew!
For what it's worth, I agree whole-heartedly with this comment. And I know it's probably been talked about to death, but I also think it's worth reiterating once in a while. This philosophy should apply not only to our criticism of the adult industry insiders, but to each other as well. We can all express our opinions respectfully, without losing our conviction. This is a great forum, and overall a very friendly place. I think that the care with which we all post will directly determine the number of industry insiders who come here and participate in our discussions. The more the better, I say.
Not a criticism, just a point that deserves repeating every now and then. :)
