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DVDwishes
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7/04
Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 5:34PM
has there been one or am I jumping the gun yet?
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 7:13PM
You're jumping the gun.
John hasn't done another feature yet, and his next one, which he'll probably shoot in early 2005, will not be a sequel.
DVDwishes
ComX

1060 Posts
7/04
Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 7:40PM
whatever it may be I'll be there for it. can't top anything that comes out of Evil Angel. would like better or more reviews on all of their movies though.
Saki
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Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 8:28PM
-Kelly-
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2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 9:48PM
If a "Fashionistas" sequel meant pairing together Taylor St. Claire, Bella Donna, and Rocco together in a love triangle again then I'd be all for it. For my money, Taylor and Bella never looked better than they did in that film.

However, from a strict storyline standpoint I don't know where the hell John would be able to go with it. There's really not much left to say after the first film.


Kelly

 
DVDwishes
ComX

1060 Posts
7/04
Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 10:40PM
well, along with being a teacher I'm also an aspiring writer and would be happy to run with the storyline on that one. there is a very obvious place to go to after the first film and that is back to Italy where Rocco's character is from. there you see Rocco's fashion empire and all the people who worship here at home. he takes bella with him and they get into even more "adventures" all along being chased by Taylor who wants Rocco still. a sequel would really sell itself ;-)
barrybrn
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Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 10:51PM
On a side note looks like Lindsay Lohan is staring in Fashionistas. Too funny. Too bad John couldn't get her in his original version.
JAGnLA All-Star Supporter
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2/04
Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 10:55PM
This is a little off-topic, but did anyone catch Mark Burnett's new "reality show" Casino last night? The two new owners of the Golden Nugget were hearing pitches from producers interested in placing a show in the casino's showroom. One of the pitches was from John S. and he mentioned "Fashionistas" and his other work -- the casino guys were none too impressed and thought it too extreme. It was funny how one of them kept saying it was familiar to him, but he couldn't remember why (or didn't want to admit viewing porn!)

"Corruptio optimi pessima..."

barrybrn
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9/03
Posted - Jul 20 2004 : 11:02PM
-Kelly-
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5/03
Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 1:37AM
"he takes bella with him and they get into even more "adventures" all along being chased by Taylor who wants Rocco still."

No. That wouldn't work. Taylor's character, Helena, doesn't give a shit about Rocco's character, Antonio, in the film at all really. The whole crutch of the plot is that Helena is to seduce world famous designer Antonio and use him to further the company that she and Jesse (Bella Donna) started. Once she's done they'll just toss him aside. Everything pretty much goes as planned except for Jesse's treachery. From a strict motivational standpoint, the only other person Helena cares about beside herself is Jesse. If she would be chasing anyone it would be Jesse and probably not to win her back but to strike revenge for the unexpected double cross at the end of the film.

From a storyline standpoint, there's just not much more to say. And from a sexual standpoint, well it's been a while since that came out. In that time, Rocco has announced his impending retirement, Bella has quit guys on camera and is currently about to become a mother, and Taylor has hovered on the extreme outskirts of the whole industry for around 2 years now as well as quitting boy/girl. When it was made, it was pretty much right place right time for everyone involved. And regardless of how brilliant and talented a director John Stagliano is, without those three people it ain't the same film.

If it involved Taylor St. Claire I'd be interested. But I know it won't and on top of that it just doesn't make sense for it to ever happen period.

I'm just waiting for Buttman to release another feature.

Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on 7/21/2004 2:04:58 AM

tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 2:05PM
Kelly - I know how much you love Taylor, but the truth is that she's pretty much done with porn, and certainly with Fashionistas - it would be too hokey to drag her character along.

IF there was a sequel, and that's a huge IF, it would revolve around Belladonna and Rocco, and most likely bring in some competition from another designer or company.

But Kelly is right about one thing - everything just fell right for this one, and it's pretty rare to get that kind of situation twice.

-Kelly-
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5/03
Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 2:37PM
Hey, how's it going,

"I know how much you love Taylor, but the truth is that she's pretty much done with porn"

Maybe. Maybe not. :)

It had occurred to me that a sequel would actually be doable if you just dropped Helena and had Jesse and Antonio as the main characters. But porn features are no different from mainstream films: sequels are almost never a good idea, with the occassional exception. And the absolute perfect replacement for [invalid URL removed]Taylor St. Claire's presence and Caroline Pierce's presence would have to come along which doesn't seem likely.

This film was very much so lightning in a bottle. I could explain why Taylor was the only choice for Helena and Bella and Rocco the same for Jesse and Antonio but I don't really think I need to. It just isn't likely to luck into that situation again.


Kelly

Ramsey
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Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 2:47PM
Sequels to great movies are always risky because the expectations are just too high because people will always compare both movie with each other.

That's why I look forward seeing a whole new project from Stagliano in 2005. Has he written the script for this movie yet?

TheLoneGunman
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10/03
Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 4:06PM
Hopefully John will shoot with Rocco as one of the leads again...considering Rocco is ready to retire in the next year or so, it would be nice to see him in one last "big" adult feature. Maybe Teagan can be in this one too? :)

DVDwishes
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1060 Posts
7/04
Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 4:22PM
there's always cameos without sex. seeing some of my favorites like veronica hart and sharon mitchell making appearances in features without doing anything sexual raises the stakes even more because it has you wondering what will happen next :-) you're absolutely right, but you and everyone involved with this film should be applauded because there will be NO film that tops it for quite a long time. I'll be happy if you proved me wrong. I'll wait ;-)
 
-Kelly-
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5/03
Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 4:34PM
"you and everyone involved with this film should be applauded because there will be NO film that tops it for quite a long time."

The way I see it the first film on the horizon that has a chance to surpass "The Fashionistas" is the feature that Tricia mentioned John will be doing in early 2005. Nothing released since that film has come close to it and there's no real indication that anything will.

Some of those Wicked Pictures features are actually pretty good but they hold way too much back in the sex department and that's something that probably won't change with them. It seems only John can really deliver a feature that is as much gonzo as feature.


Kelly

Myload
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Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 5:35PM
I think that John should come up with a totally new story for his next feature. I've heard how great "The Fashionistas" is, but he's already done with that film any anything related to it, so now he should move on.
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 7:35PM
Yeah - but she is definitely done with the Fashionistas. And most of porn is done with her.
tricia_devereaux
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Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 7:38PM
The plotline is being constantly worked on in the same way Fashionistas was. Over about a year-long period, the plotline is developed. Then, when John is ready to start on the actual script, most of the kinks of the story are already worked out and pretty much just need to be tweaked a little. John has been working on this plotline for almost a year (but while doing his dance show), so after his dance show is done, he should be ready to start writing the script with dialogue a few months later.
-Kelly-
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2517 Posts
5/03
Posted - Jul 21 2004 : 9:52PM
"Yeah - but she is definitely done with the Fashionistas. And most of porn is done with her."

Yeah. I know. I think you overestimate "most of porn" though. That's pretty harsh though I know enough to know why you would say that. It takes a whole fucking lot for someone in porn to completley burn all bridges possible. And I mean A LOT. How the fuck do you explain Rob Black and Lizzy Borden still being in business?

I digress. It's all a moot point. She did "Fashionistas". She was hot. People liked her performance. She won many awards. And as it stands right now that was the high note she chose to go out on. I'll just leave it at that. Good luck to her on whatever she does in the future and good luck to John on this 2005 feature and upcoming Fashionistas dance show. Actually, I don't even think I need to wish John good luck because we all know whatever he does will be really good.


Kelly

Edited by - tscfan317 on 7/21/2004 11:32:22 PM

Ramsey
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Posted - Jul 22 2004 : 3:32AM
Very cool, I can't wait for the announcement.

Stagliano was already shooting great feature movies before he became Buttman, I wish those movies would be released on DVD also so everybody could see them again. I'm talking about movies like The Legend of Reggie D, Salsa Break, Shadow Dancers and The Blonde among others.

DVDwishes
ComX

1060 Posts
7/04
Posted - Jul 22 2004 : 3:42AM
I've said it before in another post that there are several different or if you want to go that far, several hundred movies that should be released on DVD. I totally applaude the folks at Evil Angel and how they enjoy putting together a "special edtion" DVD, but think of all the 80s era porn that could benefit from a true re-mastering of the movie itself and not just a boxcover that says it has one.



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