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Wodgers
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414 Posts
7/04
Posted - Sep 16 2006 : 1:41PM
I purchased the Alpha Blue disc : it runs 73 mins. According to [invalid URL removed]iafd, the initial run time was 86 min.
By any chance, do you know more?
Son of Dad
Member

99 Posts
3/05
Posted - Sep 16 2006 : 8:11PM

That sucks. I hoped they would release the complete, or nearly complete, version.

I have an old vhs that is just under 84 minutes. And that's with part of the last scene edited. So 86 minutes sounds right for the unabridged version.

kierkegaard
Loose Cannon

185 Posts
8/05
Posted - Sep 16 2006 : 8:24PM
Hey Wodgers, the copy of Femmes DeSade I have runs 1 hour 25 minutes and features a sequence at the end of the film (after the orgy) in which a number of females defecate on the older man that is raping all those women.

After the defecation sequence, everyone from the orgy dances around said scat receiver in a circle, while they (the orgy members) sing a song in unison. This sequence runs a little over ten minutes. Maybe this was cut from your disc?

Best,

Kierkegaard.

P.S. I've always been a big fan of Alex DeRenzy's work.

joplinfantasy
Member

92 Posts
11/05
Posted - Sep 17 2006 : 12:30AM
The scene of Rocky forcing a prostitute to give herself oral is completely cut out! A print splice cuts from that scene (as the girl is explaining "I could never...") to John Leslie and his girls eating out.
Wodgers
Member

414 Posts
7/04
Posted - Sep 17 2006 : 10:56AM
Thanks everybody, it's very clear now : the disc ends abruptly during the orgy sequence with no end titles...
The fact that I could do without defecation does not make the pill easier to swallow : I consider this disc a must-avoid.

The irony is that, shortly after its release, this dvd was discontinued from some online retailers (Laser's Edge comes to mind) due to "content" : in this context, I was 99% sure that the disc was unedited (even though i had no idea of the nature of the questionable material). Maybe the retailers thought they would be carrying the uncut film : obviously, they didn't even bother to check the disc...

 
Wodgers
Member

414 Posts
7/04
Posted - Sep 23 2006 : 10:45AM
The last wave of ABA feature film releases has been reviewed [invalid URL removed]here
Yankey Doodel
Member

283 Posts
11/05
Posted - Sep 23 2006 : 8:54PM
Nice, thanks Wodgers. Thanks Joplinfantasy, I think.
joplinfantasy
Member

92 Posts
11/05
Posted - Sep 24 2006 : 7:04PM
Yep, that's my review. The screen grabs got kinda messed up. Hopefully it will help classic fans decide which ones are worth their cash.
Wodgers
Member

414 Posts
7/04
Posted - Dec 2 2006 : 10:24AM
Embarassing correction, better late than never: for some reasons my copy is jumping randomly so I actually didn't notice it first, but, yes, 1h11mn into the movie...the defecation scene is here!

well...

Edited by - wodgers on 12/2/2006 10:26:12 AM

js81
Member

87 Posts
6/06
Posted - Dec 3 2006 : 2:13AM
This is all very odd to me. I purchased a VHS copy of Femmes de Sade from Alpha Bue a few years ago, and it ran the entire 86 minutes and included the worst stuff (forced oral, scat, brief beastiality scene). It certainly did not appear to be edited.
Gun
Member

8 Posts
6/05
Posted - Dec 15 2006 : 6:02PM
Hi there,

1 hour and 25 mins sounds right for Femmes deSade. I never bought the Alpha Blue DVD because I hate edited DVDs. Thats a movie that would never be made today in the U.S., Europe thats a different matter. However you need to remember most companies just want your money, so thank god for a place like this where people can review it before you buy a edited version.

Gun

js81
Member

87 Posts
6/06
Posted - Dec 16 2006 : 2:27AM
I can't speak for other posters, but I think there was a time that many of us held Alpha Blue Archives in a higher regard simply because they were one of the first companies to re-issue unedited golden age titles that had otherwise been unavailable for years due to content. And yes, Alpha Blue did carry some pretty hard stuff that most other companies wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole; In fact they still do.

On the flip side, it has been my observation that in recent years Alpha Blue has become nothing more than a "shill" for companies like Arrow and Video-X-Pix, among others. A lot of Alpha's titles, when ordered from the official ABA website, come direct from such companies, and are the same edited versions that you can get (usually way cheaper) from other sites.

Then there are the compilations and director DVD sets. Alpha has cranked out a ton of these in the past two years. While some may think it is cool to be able to own all of Shaun Costello's (for example) films on a bundled DVD set, it sucks if you are just interested in say 2 or 3 titles and don't want to spend over a hundred dollars for the whole set. Not to mention that there was a time when Alpha Blue did carry the films on individual VHS/DVDs. However, this ceases if the film is recycled into one of the "collections".

Don't get me wrong, I still order the occasional flick from Alpha Blue. However, I think "Alpha Blue Archives" is just a name at this point. They are no longer the great purveyors of hard-to-find smut who didn’t try to blatantly screw their consumers.

Just my two cents.

joplinfantasy
Member

92 Posts
11/05
Posted - Dec 16 2006 : 10:17AM
I have a major beef with the company right now because their Roberta Findlay Collection has deterred another company from putting out legitimate Special Editions of THE TIFFANY MINX and A WOMAN'S TORMENT, from the original negatives, with commentaries and interviews. Somehow their Zebedy Colt Collection was nominated for an AVN Award...despite the fact that VIRGIN DREAMS is a VCX title and already on DVD officially, rendering ABA's Zebedy Colt disc a bootleg.

ABA does step up to the plate to release some very obscure and rare titles, usually uncut, but they need to realize that not all porn is public domain. It doesn't work that way. A little research goes a long way.

sdc
Member

236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 16 2006 : 1:29PM
I might be in the minority but I'd upgrade to special editions of those Roberta Findlay titles without any hesitation.
Gun
Member

8 Posts
6/05
Posted - Dec 16 2006 : 8:17PM
Hi all,

Maybe I should restate what I said about Alpha Blue. When I said thats why I dont buy Alpha Blue DVD. I meant to say that is why I didnt buy this version from them that was edit, I do buy some DVDs from Alpha Blue. Its nice that these companies try to put out uncut versions when they can, but I am not one who is going to buy it unless its uncut. When these companies put out these edited DVDs, they mostly sell to people who have never seen the movie and dont know that scenes are missing from the movie. What gets me mad at these companies is sometimes they lie on the DVD cover and say uncut version, I wont name companies, but that is dam wrong.

One final thing, I live in the USA, but thank god for Europe were people can order just about any movie from the 70 and 80s on DVD uncut. Thats under thing that gets me, how do companies in Europe get better prints then companies in the USA.

Thanks
Gun

Edited by - Gun on 12/16/2006 8:19:14 PM

 
js81
Member

87 Posts
6/06
Posted - Dec 17 2006 : 5:28PM
I understood your original point. I just felt like ranting about Alpha Blue's pitfalls.

Alpha Blue's Femmes de Sade VHS was uncut, btw. Seems like they are selling an edited version now to gain more distribution.

sdc
Member

236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Dec 18 2006 : 4:37PM
Speaking of which, Tabu Love are releasing some choice American films at the moment (incl. a couple of DeRenzy's). Obviously these will have German audio, but I suppose it's possible that English tracks are also included . . . ?
Wodgers
Member

414 Posts
7/04
Posted - May 25 2007 : 4:03AM
I just received the Alpha France / Blue One dvd and I agree that it's a must have: not only does the films appear to be uncut (golden shower, fake defecation, even a dog joins), but the real plus is the excellent picture quality on both movies.
Of course, it includes the original english soundtrack as well as french subtitles (removable) and french dubbing.

This release is on par with the Command dvds, no less...even though there are no extras (interview, commentaries).




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