It appears you are asking if it was or could be embarrassing to a performer who does their first anal ever on screen and their husband or boyfriend finds out?

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Try this:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

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A few years later I discovered I really enjoyed anal sex and I began doing anal on camera when I became a VCA contract girl. (What do you mean when you say "second-tier directors"?) I have been a dirty girl off camera for many years, but if you get really down and nasty with companies like VCA, Wicked and Vivid it often hits the cutting-room floor. Only with my contract directing and performing for Platinum X have I had the opportunity to let that true dirty slut inside shine through.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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Of course it has to be cut out of the features to fit into the company's product line.

But why don't they release a comp every now and then with this material, probably under a different label?

FROM THE DIRTY VAULT, I would buy it definitely.

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Anyway, I just wanted to put in my 2 cents (or more like 10 cents by the length of this thing).

Take care!

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

Edited by - kylie ireland on 9/21/2005 1:01:05 PM

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As far as re-releasing nastier versions - great idea - but this is porn, and it's known for the simple quick buck. To re release nastier versions would require finding the original footage and re-editing. Too much work when you can shoot new. That is why comps you see are just the versions of the scenes from the movies.

Newer, smaller companies of the "now" are braver and ready to take the chance on releasing nastier stuff. They also have less backlog and company to lose. But you notice that even the nasty new ones put a cap on what they allow. ie: fisting.

Anyway, just 2 more of my cents.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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Hey, I didn't mean to go off subject here, I was just answering posts that referred to things that were said about me that was all. And what I was talking about did shoot off of the thread about my "first" anal scene with Ed, so it wasn't really off topic.

Besides, what does a little extra knowledge about the workings of the industry hurt?

Besides, did it ever occur to you that these so-called "first" anal scenes might just be a PR thing? That the girls might be claiming that it is their very first even though it isn't? I am sure there are girls who have done their first on camera but I can imagine not practicing first with someone or at least some toy off camera. Anal is not something where you just stuff a cock in your ass the first time and are fine.

If you wanna be technical, I did that scene with Ed when I was married and had only tried anal a couple of times and not with much enjoyment.

And by the way, I know Keri Windsor and that scene you are referring to was not the reason for her and her husband's divorce. Not that it is ANY of our business but there were other circumstances to their divorce that the general public doesn't need to know about.

I guess my point is don't always believe everything you read.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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Of course it is a powerful feeling to fuck some one in the ass. You are in control of their enjoyment, and it is also akward for the first time be it a man or woman - with a dildo you don't have the sensation you would if you had an actual penis. I have no doubt it was Keri's first time doing a guy on or off screen and that it was an interesting experience.

I can't tell you what Keri's husband was feeling because I wasn't in his head. But knowing him I don't believe he is the type of guy who would want to have a girl fuck him in the ass. Of course I could be wrong. I am sure that his take on the whole thing is that "hey hon, if you wanna try this - go for it".

I have a big problem with this sentence "you know that in the porn career married pornstars must make with other guys on screen what they sometimes never and can't do with their husbands at home". Wrong. Porn stars, married or not, are never MADE to do anything they don't want to. In addition, married porn stars usually have agreements with their significant others about what they do and don't do on camera. I can pretty much guarantee that if Keri's husband didn't want her to do that scene she would have respected his wishes and not done it. As far as the "sometimes never and can't do with their husbands at home" part of you statement I am confused. Couples who are open-minded enough to have a partner who does porn are certainly going to be open-minded enough to try things at home if they wish. It's not like us married porn stars are off galavanting about having crazy sex with people on camera without having discussed the scenes with the significant and that husband/boyfriend being okay with it. To do otherwise would be disrespectful. And mutal respect in a marriage is important.

Furthermore, you state "can you tell me what's your fancy about my feeling if my wife is a pornstar and she did on screen some very abnormal sexual practices with strangers what she is refusing to do with me at home?" ABNORMAL? What the fuck does that mean? That is an opinion. I enjoy anal sex and some people may find that abnormal, it's all in the eye of the beholder. Who is to decide what the boundries of normal and abnormal are here anyway?

Next: "refusing to do at home"? Honey, if your wife is in porn and comes home and REFUSES to do something with you then you are obviously with the wrong woman or have some relationship issues. Or perhaps you are having trouble being honest with each other. And it's a pretty good bet that you AS A COUPLE should rethink what she is doing for a living.

You say "that's the rules of that job and I must make concessions with others in it while I can't make it with you?" There are no rules of the job, no one forces anyone to do anything in porn they are not comfortable with. If I don't want to do, say for example, creampies (which I don't) that is my choice and industry people - be it companies, producers, directors or talent - will respect my decision. If I don't do creampies because my significant other and I have made that decision then that descision will be respected as well. At no point will any porn star be told "you have to do this or..." and if she is (which isn't common) then said porn star should be in control of herself enough to stand her ground and not do it.

There are many couples in the industry who have placed personal boundires on their performances. For example I know a couple who both perform but won't kiss other people on camera because that is their special thing they reserve for each other. I have known girls who don't do facials or anal because they want that to be something special they do just with their husband or boyfriend.

For the record, I was married when I came into the adult industry (3 years at that point) and remained married for another 8 years. My husband and I discussed EVERY aspect of my career TOGETHER. My husband and I divorced due to circumstances that were personal and unrelated to what I did for a living.

I apologize if I come across angry or upset, I am just passionate (and Irish) and hate to see misconceptions about our industry.

Sorry for the long (and slightly off-topic) post. I hope you found it informative and helpful.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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Second, what you quoted her as saying is true. I am not saying our business is perfect because it's not but these girl will live and learn... If they are smart they will ask opinions of girls or agents who have been in the business for awhile. I personally think that girls shouldn't be allowed to do porn until age 21 but that is just me. I think they will be a bit more mature. This business can be dangerous and there are assholes in it that will try to take advantage of you but this isn't just porn - there are bad eggs in every business.

As far as children...Jesus, do you think these young kids are going to SEE this stuff? That is illegal and any good parent should keep stuff like that where their kids can't find it - whether those parents are pornstars or not. However these are decisions the parents have to make - whether to tell their children and what age is appropriate to do so. I really think it is absurd that you are acting like parents would willingly show their children their work in movies. Believe me, I highly doubt Keri's son will even be able to find this movie by the time he is old enough. These are things I am sure Keri and her husband (who I am sure is still very involved in his son's life)discussed ahead of time. In fact I would be willing to bet that her son's well-being, as well as her own may have something to do with the reason she has retires from making adult movies.

Some single young mothers make the decision to do porn to help give their children a better lifesyle than they can get working a minimum wage job. Nothing wrong with wanting a better life for your children.

Personally, I just think you are looking for me to get angry or say you are right. Or you are trying to get me to make some kind realization that porn is all evil and wrong (well, you do have that 'religous zealot' tone about your words). Maybe it is your upbringing or the fact that you are from a country other than America and see things differently. Perhaps you are just getting off on fantasizing about women being forced to do things they don't want to do or their children being horrified by their parent's jobs. Maybe you just get off repeating the words "see my mom Keri wedging her tongue inside a strange guy's asshole and smelling it and all the world saw" and "To your mother's ass, my cock was Capt. Kirk "boldly going where no man has gone before...". Anyway, you are clearly searching for some answer that I am not giving you and it seems as though you don't give two shits about what I am taking the time to write to you - that I am taking time out of my busy schedule to explain. Either way, I took your inquiries seriously and answered them honestly because I like dispelling myths about the adult industry but I am now done with this pissing match.

My apologies if I am being harsh but I believe if you reread your posts you might seem why I might think this.

Kylie

PS. I know this was a typo but I found it humorous... "What can I do if my mom is pornstar Kurt Lockwood..." :)

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Better respect the privacy of Kylie, Keri and all others.
Its none of our business if they are married, have kids or don't like anal at home.

I love Kylie, but she's a screen persona not a real life person. Its important to be able to separate these two.

If the person behind the persona Kylie wants to give us a glimpse at her she'll do it.
But please don't keep asking personal questions. You shed a bad light upon all us fans.

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Believe me, one bad apple doesn't spoil the bunch, I still love you all. :)

Kisses,
Kylie

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Now I go to bed and put MY PLAYTHING KYLIE IRELAND into the DVD-player.

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Thanks.

Now I go to bed and put MY PLAYTHING KYLIE IRELAND into the DVD-player.

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*blushing*

:)

Kylie

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If I'm in that position what's my foreseeable behave? Please tell me.

I don't know what's the pornstars children (who are old enough) are?

If I found my mother in that conduct that I said what's my behave?
I think I'll kill my self.
What you think about that?

(In this forum a huge list of mother pornstars, and some of them are old enough, and some of those porn moms did some of what I said "very sensuality concessions")

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Judas fucking Priest, I can't believe I have wasted this much time on this...

You are describing the way YOU would react to being in this situation based on having very little knowledge of the adult industry or how it works. You obviously will never find yourself in a situation like this because YOU are not the type of person who would, or even could make adult movies for a living.

It takes certain types of people to be in this business, people with certain mentalities and certain open-mindedness - which YOU obviously don't posses. There is nothing wrong with that, most people in the world couldn't make adult movies even if they wanted to because of their personal beliefs, self-esteem issues, imagined stigma and self-imposed guilts.

You are entitled to your way of dealing with the issue but rest assured that those of us in porn view our line of work much differently than you do, otherwise we wouldn't be in this line of work. I kindly suggest you stop projecting your personal issues onto the rest of us.

What do you think of THAT?

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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Edited by - kylie ireland on 9/22/2005 7:11:59 PM

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My hope is that at least someone read my stuff and find it interesting and informative.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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Kylie

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That is just so degrading and sick. Why do you have to bring a child-pespective into the ADULT business? Why must you continue to degrate porn actresses as possibly unfit mothers? (And why is pussy fucking okay and ass playing not, among other narrow minded stuff you posted in this thread?)

Give the women who work in porn their due respect. They happen to do porn, but they are normal people like everyone else, they make intelligent choices and take responsibility for their actions, their lifes and their children.

Ick!

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This person is giving porn people and fans of all kinds a bad name. Thankfully most people who post in here don't act like this.

Take a hint "Mona" an leave quietly because no one cares and no one here wants to play your childish games anymore.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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Edited by - kylie ireland on 9/23/2005 8:38:55 PM

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None of us do. And Mona can't take a hint apparantly.

Pfft.

Kylie Ireland
www.kylieireland.com
www.ksexradio.com (Thurs. @ 9 pst)

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We don't care about your made up bullshit and guilt trips.

Go. Away.

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hope this helps. peace

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:)

Kylie

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I'm sorry to have to correct you, but you may want to try re-reading the statement you quoted from me. It's kind of an obvious joke aimed at the size of Ed's "ego". It plainly states that it was my first anal 'scene', not my first time having anal sex, and since Ed is, well, a bit "less endowed" than most other Male porn stars, I made the joke that I was still a 'video virgin' (anally) after the scene. I quite honestly don't remember ever saying anything during that scene to the effect that I was an 'anal virgin' (on or off camera) before filming it; although, Ed might have asked me to "play it up", to which I might have obliged considering the excellent money he was paying me for the scene. Hey, just being honest here. So, to correct you, my scene with Ed was NOT my first time having anal sex .. Sorry if you took my statement the wrong way. But I'm glad you did the research!

Hugs -

Shane Tyler ("Little Miss Dangerous")

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Gotta love ya babe! Honesty, integrity and good looks to boot. (Miss seeing you at the trade shows!)

I too unfortunately fell under the spell of "greed" when it came to filming for Ed, but hey it was at the beginning of careers .. Who can blame us?! If folks think about this logically, one of the primary reasons we (as female performers) even decide to bring our sexuality in front of the cameras is for the money .. Or, at least, at first. We may have a curiousity to explore our sexuality and voyeurism on-camera; however, the allure of the $$$ (and potential 'feature' credits) is what draws most girls to actually film a scene, or two, or three hundred .. and perhaps make decisions we later regret.

In my opinion, one of your (Kylie's) hottest early scenes was your girl/girl with J.J., when she still had her natural boobs, in "Up and Cummers #10"! Now I know you can't regret that scene! :-)~

Love Ya Sweetie -

Shane Tyler ("Little Miss Dangerous")

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If the "Mona8mona" posts back about your post just ignore him. As you can see from this thread he is clearly a lunatic.

And hell no who wouldn't regret doing a scene with Jenna? What I think is cool is that I got to roll around with her before she was "JENNA" and when we were both just newbies in the biz.

See you in Vegas, hotstuff?

Kylie

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