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PornBoy
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Posted - Feb 24 2000 : 5:16PM
Unlike the AVN lets pick our own winners you pick the nominees here will be the catagories. Feel free to add catagories you want.
Best Male Performer
Best Female Performer
Best Male Newcummer
Best female Newcummer
Best Supporting Male
Best Supporting Female
Best Sex Scene
Best Anal Scene
Best Solo Scene
Best Cum Shot
Best Movie
Best Gonzo
Best Studio
etc...
Drew Black
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Posted - Feb 24 2000 : 5:23PM
PornBoy -
Great idea. I could automate the voting process like we did for the Valentine's Day favorite couples DVD contest.
We have a voting engine developed for ADT. We just haven't used it very much.
Gojira54
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Posted - Feb 25 2000 : 8:40AM
This is a great idea. What about a Technical catagory? After all were talking DVD and not just video.
Gojira54
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PornBoy
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Posted - Feb 27 2000 : 3:45PM
A best tech catagory sounds great. Best video to DVD transfer etc. C'mon people get involved!
zaxx
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Posted - Feb 28 2000 : 5:36AM
PornBoy-Great idea, maybe we will end up being the next "academy", everyone will anxiously await our winners, and then we can all go to CES to present and then ... ok one thing at a time.
Drew - Are we waiting on the voting engine or should we start out on this thread.
 
Saki
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Posted - Feb 28 2000 : 8:54AM
A few suggestions:
1. Since this is a DVD site, it would be nice to see more DVD-specific categories.
2. Since movies tend to make it to DVD late and since we have a lot of porn newbies, it may be difficult to nominate or vote on newcomers, especially since most of their first performances are not on DVD. Is there a more appropriate category that can address those things?
3. I think it's a good idea to narrow down and define the categories before going live with the voting engine. For one thing, if you don't take nominations first, you'll end up with a list of dozens of people/movies for each category. Second, categories like "best supporting" and "best studio" could confuse people as to what those categories mean (AVN's supporting role tends to refer more to acting than sex and I'd pick different studios for DVD vs. overall productions).
Great idea, it just needs a little more focus for it to transcend the normal "So who's your favorite porn star" thread.
Saki
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Posted - Feb 28 2000 : 10:19AM
Saki's ideas make a lot of sense. Perhaps the catagories for this award should focus on specifically on DVD. Below are some suggestions:
Best DVD
Best Gay DVD
Best Classic DVD
Best Couple's DVD
Best Multi-Angle DVD
Best 'Virtual Sex' DVD
Best DVD Extras
Gojira54
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Posted - Feb 28 2000 : 12:53PM
Saki and Five Star,
Excellent suggestions!
My suggestions for catagories is:
Best DVD menu
Best Extras( Need to clarify the rules for this one.)
This next one might be a little hard to pin down. But what about a Best Transfer to DVD?
Just a few suggestions.
Gojira54
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Posted - Feb 28 2000 : 1:41PM
Excellent ideas guys!
zaxx - no need to wait for the voting engine - we can use that to pick winners. But if we get all the categories and nominees worked out here the voting will be easy. Then people will be able to pick winners from a drop down box of 5-10 nominees. If we don't already have the nominees then we can't do real time voting results (like we did for v-day.)
sonic
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Posted - Feb 28 2000 : 1:55PM
Here are some catergories:
1) Best Gonzo title
2) Most enthusiastic porn star
3) Best anal scene
4) Funniest scene in a porn
Gojira54
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 5:47AM
What is the timeline for this contest? DVD has been going strong for almost 3 years. Are we just going use the past year for the awards? Or use this first award as every up till now? I don't have a problem with using whats been released up till now. We need to establish ground rules before we nominate. And how long with the voting go on? Are there methods of making sure we don't have studios stacking the vote count in their favor?
Gojira54
Drew Black
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 9:09AM
Gojira54,
I think we should allow all DVDs made to date for the first round of voting. Next year we can cut the voting back to include only the previous year's releases.
We do have our ways of preventing people from stacking the vote. The mechanisms aren't perfect and a few dishonest votes can slip through. There's always a way to cheat the system.
PornBoy
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 10:43AM
Great ideas everybody! What about...
Best Bisexual
Best Interracial
Most Bizarre
Best Makeup
Best original script
Best onscreen couple
Best Gang Bang
Best original Score
Best Amature
Best Fetish
Here are a few nominees I'd like to put in for best Gonzo
Every Man's Fetish #2: 18 and Fuckin' Horny
Action Sports Sex
The Watcher
Freshman Fantasies #4
Sin-O-Matic
Best Newcummer Performers:
Cheyenne Silver (Every Man's Fetish 1)
Inari Vachs (Babylon)
Delia (Kelly The Coed)
Azlea (Action Sports Sex)
Dee (Freshman Fantasies 1)
Sky Chase (Shane's World 17)
Halli Aston (Country Comfort)
Perhaps we could post a thumbnail of the performers pics and vote who will be the final nominees.

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Saki
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 12:33PM
PornBoy: Good ideas, however, I think that getting too esoteric in the categories will make the voting meaningless. For example, makeup, writing, and musical categories work well for mainstream movies, but in porn, there are literally only a handful of people that work on a majority of productions. And, anyway, the crew credits often are not listed, and crew often go by several different pseudonyms.
Again, I think it's important to put some guidelines on nominations. I'm particularly concerned about the "Newcomer" category, since even some of the people that many would consider newcomers, such as Inari, Cheyenne (aka Wildcat) or Dee, are not really newcomers at all--they all have movie credits going back to 1997 and more than 150 appearances each. It's just so hard to judge new talent when so many people don't watch the new stuff coming out on VHS.
Saki
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DGF
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 12:37PM
Great idea! But I don't see how you can limit it to DVD as the content on DVD is almost the same as on VHS. DVD is just a means to deliver the content. If you limit yourself to DVD you would have to give the awards for something inherent in the DVD such as proper use of multiple angles or a helpful menu,and not for the content.
I think there should be some girl/girl or lesbian scene category in there too.
 
zaxx
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 1:33PM
Drew - HELP - Need some direction here:0 I mean come on guys this shouldn't be that difficult. I say we keep it NICE AND SIMPLE
Best DVD, Actor, Actress, Director and maybe 1 or 2 others. What do you say?
Gojira54
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 2:18PM
DGF,
The reason being Video already has it awards show. I think as DVD becomes more in the mainstream a Newcummer award will be ok. But right now NO, takes to long for video's to hit the DVD market. But in the future I doubt that will be a problem. Now a girl/girl is a great idea.
Just my two cents worth,
Gojira54
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PornBoy
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 2:31PM
Best Bisexual
Best Interracial
Most Bizarre
Best onscreen couple
Best Gang Bang
Best Amature
Best Fetish
Best Girl/Girl
Saki,
I see your point. I defintely think these catagories should be added. So how do we decide who a newcummer is? I didn't realize Dee and Cheyenne have been in the industry for so long. What about if a girl or guy has been in the buisiness since '99 they are considered newcummers? A best lesbian scene nominee should be Janine and Julia Ann for 7 Deadly Sins.
Saki
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 2:46PM
Good points, guys...thanks for articulating my points better!
There are a couple of issues here:
1. There's no day and date releasing on adult DVDs, meaning that new releases very rarely have DVD and VHS versions at the same time. For example, whereas Kelly The Coed 2 is on pre-release for DVD, I just saw Kelly The Coed 7 on VHS in my local video store. I'd argue that DVD is a very different animal from VHS right now.
2. My impression is that there are quite a few people here that haven't seen that much porn and a considerable number who have only seen it on DVD. You'd be stuck with a situation where "experts" may nominate good stuff on VHS but they will get hardly any votes because the majority has not seen it.
3. At least the media and critics awards only have to worry about stuff releases within the last year. It's not that hard to come up with nominees if you only have to worry about performances in 1999. With DVD, there's stuff released every week, some of it is new but some of it can be 20 years old. It's going to be tough enough as it is to vote on the DVD categories, since there are 3 years worth of stuff that has already been released.
4. Since this is a DVD site and since we're interested in better DVDs, it makes sense to have a number of categories specific to DVD in order to reward studios who do a good job and to "encourage" others to put effort into their releases.
5. And my point all along is that the categories need to be defined and guidelines established or else you'll get suggestions all across the board.
Saki
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DGF
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 7:05PM
Gojira54,
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the AVN awards are not limited to VHS.
I suppose the awards could be limited to content on DVD but for me it just doesn't make a lot of sense. Maybe it's just my manner of thinking but I think awards should be for the content and not for content on a specific media.
Drew Black
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 8:12PM
I think there's a lot of valuable input in this thread. I'll toss in my two cents:
$.01 - Since we are a DVD site and this is our first attempt at a catergorized voting system we should limit the number of categories to those that fall into the realm of "DVD specific". This first round can be a way of beta testing a voting system and improving upon it when we add all of the categories. I would also like our votes to be an indication to consumers and studios alike of what's great on DVD.
Although performer X might have a great anal in movie Y the performance most likely is just as impressive in any format. When we are happy with the voting system we can add performer-centric categories. Initially format-centric categories might be best.
$.02 - I want to do this voting system right from the beginnning if possible. I'm sure we will all have suggestions for improving it after we use it for a little while. (There's a bunch of stuff I want to change about the reviews section of the site but just haven't gotten around to it.) Let's start off small for our first round and then try to be more encompassing down the road.
We generally try to get a store or studio to sponsor a giveaway in conjunction with something like the voting we are talking about. This has been a great way to get people involved for some of the things we have done on the site to date. If we ask someone to vote in 20+ categories they may experience voter fatigue. I'm not sure if a sponsor is such a great idea with this one. I'm concerned about people just voting for any random selections to be eligible for the freebies. What's your take on this issue?
trixietoo
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Posted - Feb 29 2000 : 8:34PM
Hi! Perhaps there should be two separate viewer's choice awards. Since this is a DVD specific site... The first one, held in say April for DVD specific categories.
Best Transfer
Best Extras (a must)
Best Multi-Angle
the rest of five_star's list
Then, say in June have an award for viewer's favorite preformer, scene, etc... so the folks on-screen get some appreciation, too. Just do them separately, so there isn't any confusion.
I also think that newcomer is a bit hard to define. For most of the public, I would agree that a newcomer is hard to establish. I'm now just seeing people on-screen that have been making movies since 93, just not the ones I've been watching apparently - until now. It was only after some research that I discovered their library of work.
Trixie
DGF
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Posted - Mar 1 2000 : 8:48AM
I do see one big problem with this and that is that I don't think any of us here will have seen all of the nominees. If I haven't seen one of the nominees out of 5 how can I make an informed vote?
Gojira54
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Posted - Mar 1 2000 : 10:54AM
DGF,
I was thinking the same thing. I think part of this will be a popularity contest. But I all for allowing people to choose the expertise? Mine would be Classic DVD.
Gojira54
PornBoy
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Posted - Mar 3 2000 : 8:40AM
Everyone has great ideas but I think we need to keep it simple. Maybe 15 to 20 catagories and maybe gear it more towards extras on DVDs best transfers then we can do best actress and actors. Lets through out the best newcummer catagories.



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